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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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    @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

    @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

    If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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    • TimT Away
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      Tim
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      #183

      Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

      Props

      Tu'inukuafe
      Hodgman
      N Mayhew
      O Tu'ungafasi
      Laulala
      Renata

      Hookers

      Parsons
      Eklund
      Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

      Locks

      Tuipulotu
      Pierce
      Goodhue
      Cowley-Tuioti
      Darry

      Loose forwards

      Gibson
      Hunt
      Papalii
      Robinson
      Sotutu
      A Ioane
      Riedlinger-Kapa

      Halfbacks

      Nock
      Christie
      Ruru

      1st Five Eighths

      Black
      Perofeta
      Plummer
      Heighton

      Midfield

      Faiane
      T Tele'a
      R Ioane
      TBC

      Outside Backs

      Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
      M Telea
      Narawa
      AJ Lam
      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
      Sullivan

      Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

      38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

      Out:

      Lindenmuth
      Mafileo
      Carroll
      Lamborn
      Tucker
      Barrett
      Marchent
      Hyland
      Duffie
      Page

      In:

      N Mayhew
      Laulala
      Darry
      Hunt
      TBC (midfield)
      AJ Lam
      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
      Sullivan

      Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
      North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
      Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
      Counties - 2
      BOP - 3
      Ta$man - 3
      Canterbury - 1
      Taranaki - 2

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      • TimT Away
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        Tim
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        #184

        Match XXIII

        Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

        1 Hodgman
        2 Eklund
        3 Laulala
        4 Tuipulotu
        5 Pierce
        6 A Ioane
        7 Papalii
        8 Sotutu

        9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
        10 Black
        11 Clarke
        12 Faiane
        13 R Ioane
        14 M Telea
        15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

        16 Parsons
        17 Tu'inukuafe
        18 Tu'ungafasi
        19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
        20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
        21 Christie
        22 Plummer
        23 T Tele'a

        With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

        Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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        • TimT Tim

          Match XXIII

          Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

          1 Hodgman
          2 Eklund
          3 Laulala
          4 Tuipulotu
          5 Pierce
          6 A Ioane
          7 Papalii
          8 Sotutu

          9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
          10 Black
          11 Clarke
          12 Faiane
          13 R Ioane
          14 M Telea
          15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

          16 Parsons
          17 Tu'inukuafe
          18 Tu'ungafasi
          19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
          20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
          21 Christie
          22 Plummer
          23 T Tele'a

          With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

          Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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          @Tim said in Blues 2021:

          Match XIII

          Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            @Tim said in Blues 2021:

            Match XIII

            Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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            Tim
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            #186

            @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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              Tim
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              MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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              • TimT Away
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                Tim
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                #188

                Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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                  Tim
                  wrote on last edited by Tim
                  #189

                  With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                  Props

                  Tu'inukuafe
                  Hodgman
                  N Mayhew
                  O Tu'ungafasi
                  Laulala
                  Renata

                  Hookers

                  Parsons
                  Eklund
                  Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                  Locks

                  Tuipulotu
                  Pierce
                  Goodhue
                  Cowley-Tuioti
                  Darry

                  Loose forwards

                  Gibson
                  Hunt
                  Papalii
                  Robinson
                  Sotutu
                  A Ioane
                  Riedlinger-Kapa

                  Halfbacks

                  Nock
                  Christie
                  Ruru

                  1st Five Eighths

                  Black
                  Perofeta
                  Plummer
                  Heighton

                  Midfield

                  Faiane
                  T Tele'a
                  R Ioane
                  TBC

                  Outside Backs

                  Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                  M Telea
                  Narawa
                  AJ Lam
                  Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                  Sullivan

                  Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                  That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                  Out:

                  Lindenmuth
                  Mafileo
                  Carroll
                  Lamborn
                  Tucker
                  Barrett
                  Marchent
                  Hyland
                  Duffie
                  Page

                  In:

                  N Mayhew
                  Laulala
                  Darry
                  Hunt
                  TBC (midfield)
                  AJ Lam
                  Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                  Sullivan

                  Provincial breakdown:

                  Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                  North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                  Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                  Counties - 2
                  BOP - 3
                  Ta$man - 3
                  Canterbury - 1
                  Taranaki - 2

                  Match XXIII

                  Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                  1 Hodgman
                  2 Eklund
                  3 Laulala
                  4 Tuipulotu
                  5 Pierce
                  6 A Ioane
                  7 Papalii
                  8 Sotutu

                  9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                  10 Black
                  11 Clarke
                  12 Faiane
                  13 R Ioane
                  14 M Telea
                  15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                  16 Parsons
                  17 Tu'inukuafe
                  18 Tu'ungafasi
                  19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                  20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                  21 Christie
                  22 Plummer
                  23 T Tele'a

                  With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                  Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                  Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                    Props

                    Tu'inukuafe
                    Hodgman
                    N Mayhew
                    O Tu'ungafasi
                    Laulala
                    Renata

                    Hookers

                    Parsons
                    Eklund
                    Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                    Locks

                    Tuipulotu
                    Pierce
                    Goodhue
                    Cowley-Tuioti
                    Darry

                    Loose forwards

                    Gibson
                    Hunt
                    Papalii
                    Robinson
                    Sotutu
                    A Ioane
                    Riedlinger-Kapa

                    Halfbacks

                    Nock
                    Christie
                    Ruru

                    1st Five Eighths

                    Black
                    Perofeta
                    Plummer
                    Heighton

                    Midfield

                    Faiane
                    T Tele'a
                    R Ioane
                    TBC

                    Outside Backs

                    Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                    M Telea
                    Narawa
                    AJ Lam
                    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                    Sullivan

                    Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                    That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                    Out:

                    Lindenmuth
                    Mafileo
                    Carroll
                    Lamborn
                    Tucker
                    Barrett
                    Marchent
                    Hyland
                    Duffie
                    Page

                    In:

                    N Mayhew
                    Laulala
                    Darry
                    Hunt
                    TBC (midfield)
                    AJ Lam
                    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                    Sullivan

                    Provincial breakdown:

                    Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                    North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                    Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                    Counties - 2
                    BOP - 3
                    Ta$man - 3
                    Canterbury - 1
                    Taranaki - 2

                    Match XXIII

                    Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                    1 Hodgman
                    2 Eklund
                    3 Laulala
                    4 Tuipulotu
                    5 Pierce
                    6 A Ioane
                    7 Papalii
                    8 Sotutu

                    9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                    10 Black
                    11 Clarke
                    12 Faiane
                    13 R Ioane
                    14 M Telea
                    15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                    16 Parsons
                    17 Tu'inukuafe
                    18 Tu'ungafasi
                    19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                    20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                    21 Christie
                    22 Plummer
                    23 T Tele'a

                    With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                    Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                    Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                    @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                    As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                      As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                      @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                      As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                      really?

                      Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                        @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                        As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                        really?

                        Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                        #192

                        @nzzp i just meant more reliant, didn't say they were shit or anything, plus an injury and it does get thin.

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                          What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                            Tim
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                            #194

                            @KiwiMurph Maybe a bit small?

                            Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u might be on the fringe too?

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                              Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                              NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                                Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                                @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                                He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                  Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                  NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                                  He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                                  #197

                                  @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                                    @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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                                      #199

                                      @Bovidae Yeah, started a lot of games for College Rifles.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                        Props

                                        Tu'inukuafe
                                        Hodgman
                                        N Mayhew
                                        O Tu'ungafasi
                                        Laulala
                                        Renata

                                        Hookers

                                        Parsons
                                        Eklund
                                        Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                        Locks

                                        Tuipulotu
                                        Pierce
                                        Goodhue
                                        Cowley-Tuioti
                                        Darry

                                        Loose forwards

                                        Gibson
                                        Hunt
                                        Papalii
                                        Robinson
                                        Sotutu
                                        A Ioane
                                        Riedlinger-Kapa

                                        Halfbacks

                                        Nock
                                        Christie
                                        Ruru

                                        1st Five Eighths

                                        Black
                                        Perofeta
                                        Plummer
                                        Heighton

                                        Midfield

                                        Faiane
                                        T Tele'a
                                        R Ioane
                                        TBC

                                        Outside Backs

                                        Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                        M Telea
                                        Narawa
                                        AJ Lam
                                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                        Sullivan

                                        Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                        That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                        Out:

                                        Lindenmuth
                                        Mafileo
                                        Carroll
                                        Lamborn
                                        Tucker
                                        Barrett
                                        Marchent
                                        Hyland
                                        Duffie
                                        Page

                                        In:

                                        N Mayhew
                                        Laulala
                                        Darry
                                        Hunt
                                        TBC (midfield)
                                        AJ Lam
                                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                        Sullivan

                                        Provincial breakdown:

                                        Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                        North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                        Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                        Counties - 2
                                        BOP - 3
                                        Ta$man - 3
                                        Canterbury - 1
                                        Taranaki - 2

                                        Match XXIII

                                        Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                        1 Hodgman
                                        2 Eklund
                                        3 Laulala
                                        4 Tuipulotu
                                        5 Pierce
                                        6 A Ioane
                                        7 Papalii
                                        8 Sotutu

                                        9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                        10 Black
                                        11 Clarke
                                        12 Faiane
                                        13 R Ioane
                                        14 M Telea
                                        15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                        16 Parsons
                                        17 Tu'inukuafe
                                        18 Tu'ungafasi
                                        19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                        20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                        21 Christie
                                        22 Plummer
                                        23 T Tele'a

                                        With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                        Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                        Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                        @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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                                          @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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                                          @Nogusta said in Blues 2021:

                                          @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

                                          surely not! If so, well done on the good oil.

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