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  • S Steven Harris

    @African-Monkey I am thinking that as well, got the best kicking game of any of the other options not to mention as seen last night , he really can knock them over from a fair way out if required to kick for goal ..

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    #171

    @Steven-Harris Yup, and we also don't really have many options there with Perofeta being the only other option I can think of and he's also very injury prone. As you said, he has a huge kick and seems good under the high ball.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @Tim that is some loose forward trio Edit: group.

      Amazing how with decent governance, decent administration and decent coaching players suddenly are interested in playing for Auckland!

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      @nzzp said in Blues 2021:

      @Tim that is some loose forward trio Edit: group.

      Amazing how with decent governance, decent administration and decent coaching players suddenly are interested in playing for Auckland!

      It's way more a case of decent results and chance at results. Players these days want titles or finals on their Cvs for value.

      All those things can add to results but then you can also have all of those and if you just can't quite get results it can stall or you can be undesirable. See the Chiefs. Governance and admin still good, one the world's best coaches but it hasn't gelled and will now take a while before they are back to having players knocking the door down.

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        #173

        With two FB spots sorted, we probably need one more FB option. Narawa? Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens?

        Josh Moorby, Caleb Makene and Josh McKay could be other options to bring in.

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        • DiceD Dice

          With two FB spots sorted, we probably need one more FB option. Narawa? Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens?

          Josh Moorby, Caleb Makene and Josh McKay could be other options to bring in.

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          @Dice I always thought McKay would be worth a punt. Doesn't seem to be any rumours of us getting any outside backs?

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          • A African Monkey

            @Dice I always thought McKay would be worth a punt. Doesn't seem to be any rumours of us getting any outside backs?

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            #175

            @African-Monkey AJ Lam and Jacob Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens have been reported on here as signed. Perofeta, Sullivan and Narawa should cover fullback pretty effectively. One or two Midfield backups for Faiane, Ioane and Tele'a will be interesting with no obvious standout options in the region now that Tua is unavailable.

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            • S Steven Harris

              Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

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              #176

              @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2021:

              Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

              Good to see another Napier boy getting a SR contract.

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                #177

                Funny how since Blues have ditched Hanks they have suddenly started making signings that make sense.

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                  #178

                  https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                    #179

                    @Stargazer that's bloody good news. They are going well as a unit.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                      #180

                      @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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                        Bovidae
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                        #181

                        A sign of the times when a prop is taller than backs and a loose forward.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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                          Hooroo
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                          @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

                          @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

                          If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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                            Tim
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                            #183

                            Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

                            Props

                            Tu'inukuafe
                            Hodgman
                            N Mayhew
                            O Tu'ungafasi
                            Laulala
                            Renata

                            Hookers

                            Parsons
                            Eklund
                            Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                            Locks

                            Tuipulotu
                            Pierce
                            Goodhue
                            Cowley-Tuioti
                            Darry

                            Loose forwards

                            Gibson
                            Hunt
                            Papalii
                            Robinson
                            Sotutu
                            A Ioane
                            Riedlinger-Kapa

                            Halfbacks

                            Nock
                            Christie
                            Ruru

                            1st Five Eighths

                            Black
                            Perofeta
                            Plummer
                            Heighton

                            Midfield

                            Faiane
                            T Tele'a
                            R Ioane
                            TBC

                            Outside Backs

                            Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                            M Telea
                            Narawa
                            AJ Lam
                            Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                            Sullivan

                            Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

                            38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                            Out:

                            Lindenmuth
                            Mafileo
                            Carroll
                            Lamborn
                            Tucker
                            Barrett
                            Marchent
                            Hyland
                            Duffie
                            Page

                            In:

                            N Mayhew
                            Laulala
                            Darry
                            Hunt
                            TBC (midfield)
                            AJ Lam
                            Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                            Sullivan

                            Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                            North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                            Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                            Counties - 2
                            BOP - 3
                            Ta$man - 3
                            Canterbury - 1
                            Taranaki - 2

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                            • TimT Away
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                              Tim
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                              #184

                              Match XXIII

                              Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                              1 Hodgman
                              2 Eklund
                              3 Laulala
                              4 Tuipulotu
                              5 Pierce
                              6 A Ioane
                              7 Papalii
                              8 Sotutu

                              9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                              10 Black
                              11 Clarke
                              12 Faiane
                              13 R Ioane
                              14 M Telea
                              15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                              16 Parsons
                              17 Tu'inukuafe
                              18 Tu'ungafasi
                              19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                              20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                              21 Christie
                              22 Plummer
                              23 T Tele'a

                              With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                              Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Match XXIII

                                Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                1 Hodgman
                                2 Eklund
                                3 Laulala
                                4 Tuipulotu
                                5 Pierce
                                6 A Ioane
                                7 Papalii
                                8 Sotutu

                                9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                10 Black
                                11 Clarke
                                12 Faiane
                                13 R Ioane
                                14 M Telea
                                15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                16 Parsons
                                17 Tu'inukuafe
                                18 Tu'ungafasi
                                19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                21 Christie
                                22 Plummer
                                23 T Tele'a

                                With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                                Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                Hooroo
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                                #185

                                @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                Match XIII

                                Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                                • HoorooH Hooroo

                                  @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                  Match XIII

                                  Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                                  Tim
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                                  #186

                                  @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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                                    #187

                                    MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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                                      Tim
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                                      #188

                                      Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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                                        Tim
                                        wrote on last edited by Tim
                                        #189

                                        With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                        Props

                                        Tu'inukuafe
                                        Hodgman
                                        N Mayhew
                                        O Tu'ungafasi
                                        Laulala
                                        Renata

                                        Hookers

                                        Parsons
                                        Eklund
                                        Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                        Locks

                                        Tuipulotu
                                        Pierce
                                        Goodhue
                                        Cowley-Tuioti
                                        Darry

                                        Loose forwards

                                        Gibson
                                        Hunt
                                        Papalii
                                        Robinson
                                        Sotutu
                                        A Ioane
                                        Riedlinger-Kapa

                                        Halfbacks

                                        Nock
                                        Christie
                                        Ruru

                                        1st Five Eighths

                                        Black
                                        Perofeta
                                        Plummer
                                        Heighton

                                        Midfield

                                        Faiane
                                        T Tele'a
                                        R Ioane
                                        TBC

                                        Outside Backs

                                        Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                        M Telea
                                        Narawa
                                        AJ Lam
                                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                        Sullivan

                                        Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                        That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                        Out:

                                        Lindenmuth
                                        Mafileo
                                        Carroll
                                        Lamborn
                                        Tucker
                                        Barrett
                                        Marchent
                                        Hyland
                                        Duffie
                                        Page

                                        In:

                                        N Mayhew
                                        Laulala
                                        Darry
                                        Hunt
                                        TBC (midfield)
                                        AJ Lam
                                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                        Sullivan

                                        Provincial breakdown:

                                        Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                        North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                        Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                        Counties - 2
                                        BOP - 3
                                        Ta$man - 3
                                        Canterbury - 1
                                        Taranaki - 2

                                        Match XXIII

                                        Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                        1 Hodgman
                                        2 Eklund
                                        3 Laulala
                                        4 Tuipulotu
                                        5 Pierce
                                        6 A Ioane
                                        7 Papalii
                                        8 Sotutu

                                        9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                        10 Black
                                        11 Clarke
                                        12 Faiane
                                        13 R Ioane
                                        14 M Telea
                                        15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                        16 Parsons
                                        17 Tu'inukuafe
                                        18 Tu'ungafasi
                                        19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                        20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                        21 Christie
                                        22 Plummer
                                        23 T Tele'a

                                        With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                        Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                        Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                          Props

                                          Tu'inukuafe
                                          Hodgman
                                          N Mayhew
                                          O Tu'ungafasi
                                          Laulala
                                          Renata

                                          Hookers

                                          Parsons
                                          Eklund
                                          Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                          Locks

                                          Tuipulotu
                                          Pierce
                                          Goodhue
                                          Cowley-Tuioti
                                          Darry

                                          Loose forwards

                                          Gibson
                                          Hunt
                                          Papalii
                                          Robinson
                                          Sotutu
                                          A Ioane
                                          Riedlinger-Kapa

                                          Halfbacks

                                          Nock
                                          Christie
                                          Ruru

                                          1st Five Eighths

                                          Black
                                          Perofeta
                                          Plummer
                                          Heighton

                                          Midfield

                                          Faiane
                                          T Tele'a
                                          R Ioane
                                          TBC

                                          Outside Backs

                                          Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                          M Telea
                                          Narawa
                                          AJ Lam
                                          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                          Sullivan

                                          Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                          That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                          Out:

                                          Lindenmuth
                                          Mafileo
                                          Carroll
                                          Lamborn
                                          Tucker
                                          Barrett
                                          Marchent
                                          Hyland
                                          Duffie
                                          Page

                                          In:

                                          N Mayhew
                                          Laulala
                                          Darry
                                          Hunt
                                          TBC (midfield)
                                          AJ Lam
                                          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                          Sullivan

                                          Provincial breakdown:

                                          Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                          North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                          Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                          Counties - 2
                                          BOP - 3
                                          Ta$man - 3
                                          Canterbury - 1
                                          Taranaki - 2

                                          Match XXIII

                                          Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                          1 Hodgman
                                          2 Eklund
                                          3 Laulala
                                          4 Tuipulotu
                                          5 Pierce
                                          6 A Ioane
                                          7 Papalii
                                          8 Sotutu

                                          9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                          10 Black
                                          11 Clarke
                                          12 Faiane
                                          13 R Ioane
                                          14 M Telea
                                          15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                          16 Parsons
                                          17 Tu'inukuafe
                                          18 Tu'ungafasi
                                          19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                          20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                          21 Christie
                                          22 Plummer
                                          23 T Tele'a

                                          With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                          Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                          Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                          @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                          As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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