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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
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    #472

    No Blues teams yet for the game of 3 halves?

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    • TimT Offline
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      Tim
      wrote on last edited by Tim
      #473

      Forwards I think I recognized from the game of three halves photos:

      Eklund
      Apisai
      Tolai
      Lay
      Renata
      McElroy
      Dyer
      Fepulea'i/Paea
      Goodhue
      Pierce
      Cowley-Tuioti
      Dalzell
      Plumtree
      Choat
      Rush
      Jones?

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        Backs:

        Ruru
        Nock
        Christie
        Perofeta
        Black
        Plummer
        Grindley
        Fomai
        Telea
        Tele'a
        Lam
        Kneepkins
        Sullivan

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          Nogusta
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          #475

          Blues vs Canes

          Sullivan
          Kneepkens
          Grindlay
          T. Tele'a
          Lam
          Black
          Christie
          Rush
          Choat
          Plumtree
          Cowley Tuioti
          Darry
          Renata
          Eklund
          McElroy

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            Nogusta
            wrote on last edited by Nogusta
            #476

            Blues vs Chiefs

            Kneepkens
            Macilai
            Fomai
            Plummer
            M. Telea
            Perofeta
            Nock
            Rush
            Jones
            Plumtree
            Pierce
            Goodhue
            Fepuleai
            Tolai
            Lay

            Those were the starting lineups

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            • DuluthD Offline
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              Duluth
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              #477

              No AB's obviously. Interesting that they left out the next tier of loosies too. No Robinson, Hunt, Gibson

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                #478

                Saw Hos, Akira, Rieko and Dalton down at the Weetbix Try this morning. They looked fit ... NZZP Jnr got selfies with them and declared himself happy 🙂

                I'm excited about the Blues this year. Again. I can't help myself

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  No AB's obviously. Interesting that they left out the next tier of loosies too. No Robinson, Hunt, Gibson

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                  #479

                  @Duluth not sure about Gibson but Robinson was a late scratching, and Hunt hasn't been sighted at all during pre season. Head knock issues maybe?
                  Also Narawa out for a cpl of weeks with broken finger

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                  • TimT Offline
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                    #480

                    Who do you guys think MacDonald will select for the first game? I wonder if a few ABs will start from the bench? I'm assuming that Niuia, Vikena, Hunt, Faiane, and Narawa will be unavailable. Probably Gibson too.

                    Big calls at 12 and lock. I'll guess this XXIII:

                    1 Hodgman
                    2 Eklund
                    3 Laulala
                    4 Tuipulotu
                    5 Goodhue
                    6 Ioane
                    7 Papalii
                    8 Sotutu
                    9 Christie
                    10 Black
                    11 Clarke
                    12 Plummer
                    13 Ioane
                    14 Telea
                    15 Perofeta

                    16 Tolai
                    17 Karl T
                    18 Ofa T
                    19 Cowley-Tuioti
                    20 Choat
                    21 Nock
                    22 Tele'a
                    23 Sullivan/Lam

                    Not sure all the ABs will be selected in round one, especially the loose forwards and maybe one of the props. Would like to see Ofa T start, as the Blues are his team. Akira Ioane or Sotutu to be subbed and the other two loose forwards to stay on the field. Hunt could've been handy as a turnover option in the early rounds. I'd prefer to have Nock and Pierce starting. Hope Plummer has improved his defence at 12!

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                    • KiwiMurphK Offline
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                      #481

                      I think that's a pretty good prediction.

                      Midfield is a big issue until Faiane returns. Laumape-PUJ combo will back themselves to cause havoc week 1.

                      I'd rather see Nock start at 9 but no doubt Christie will get first crack.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Who do you guys think MacDonald will select for the first game? I wonder if a few ABs will start from the bench? I'm assuming that Niuia, Vikena, Hunt, Faiane, and Narawa will be unavailable. Probably Gibson too.

                        Big calls at 12 and lock. I'll guess this XXIII:

                        1 Hodgman
                        2 Eklund
                        3 Laulala
                        4 Tuipulotu
                        5 Goodhue
                        6 Ioane
                        7 Papalii
                        8 Sotutu
                        9 Christie
                        10 Black
                        11 Clarke
                        12 Plummer
                        13 Ioane
                        14 Telea
                        15 Perofeta

                        16 Tolai
                        17 Karl T
                        18 Ofa T
                        19 Cowley-Tuioti
                        20 Choat
                        21 Nock
                        22 Tele'a
                        23 Sullivan/Lam

                        Not sure all the ABs will be selected in round one, especially the loose forwards and maybe one of the props. Would like to see Ofa T start, as the Blues are his team. Akira Ioane or Sotutu to be subbed and the other two loose forwards to stay on the field. Hunt could've been handy as a turnover option in the early rounds. I'd prefer to have Nock and Pierce starting. Hope Plummer has improved his defence at 12!

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                        Duluth
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                        #482

                        @Tim

                        Looks about right

                        I think Sullivan might start at 15 though. MacDonald has made some very positive comments about him.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Who do you guys think MacDonald will select for the first game? I wonder if a few ABs will start from the bench? I'm assuming that Niuia, Vikena, Hunt, Faiane, and Narawa will be unavailable. Probably Gibson too.

                          Big calls at 12 and lock. I'll guess this XXIII:

                          1 Hodgman
                          2 Eklund
                          3 Laulala
                          4 Tuipulotu
                          5 Goodhue
                          6 Ioane
                          7 Papalii
                          8 Sotutu
                          9 Christie
                          10 Black
                          11 Clarke
                          12 Plummer
                          13 Ioane
                          14 Telea
                          15 Perofeta

                          16 Tolai
                          17 Karl T
                          18 Ofa T
                          19 Cowley-Tuioti
                          20 Choat
                          21 Nock
                          22 Tele'a
                          23 Sullivan/Lam

                          Not sure all the ABs will be selected in round one, especially the loose forwards and maybe one of the props. Would like to see Ofa T start, as the Blues are his team. Akira Ioane or Sotutu to be subbed and the other two loose forwards to stay on the field. Hunt could've been handy as a turnover option in the early rounds. I'd prefer to have Nock and Pierce starting. Hope Plummer has improved his defence at 12!

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                          Winger
                          wrote on last edited by Winger
                          #483

                          @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                          Hunt could've been handy as a turnover option in the early rounds

                          Is he injured? edit. Ok. Seen a comment on this

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                            Bovidae
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                            #484

                            If the Blues don't play a preseason game will Ofa's ban then include the first SRA game? The 3-week suspension included the last 2 AB games and any rugby up until and including February 20. So he wouldn't have been able to play against the Crusaders this Sat.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              If the Blues don't play a preseason game will Ofa's ban then include the first SRA game? The 3-week suspension included the last 2 AB games and any rugby up until and including February 20. So he wouldn't have been able to play against the Crusaders this Sat.

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                              Tim
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                              #485

                              @Bovidae What about the game of three halves?

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @Bovidae What about the game of three halves?

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                                Bovidae
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #486

                                @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                @Bovidae What about the game of three halves?

                                The ABs weren't available for games last Fri/Sat so I doubt that counted.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  If the Blues don't play a preseason game will Ofa's ban then include the first SRA game? The 3-week suspension included the last 2 AB games and any rugby up until and including February 20. So he wouldn't have been able to play against the Crusaders this Sat.

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                                  Stargazer
                                  wrote on last edited by Stargazer
                                  #487

                                  @Bovidae Good question. The judicial decison worded the suspension as follows:

                                  The player is therefore suspended for 3 weeks, up to and including Saturday 20 February 2021. This sanction includes the Player's next three scheduled matches as presented.”

                                  What prevails, the period of the ban (up to and including 20 February) or the number of matches (3)? You could argue that he was available for the preseason game against the Crusaders, which was a scheduled game, which has been cancelled/postponed due to circumstances beyond his control, and that therefore that game should count as his third match anyway.

                                  I think the period of the ban will prevail, just using common sense in this time of pandemic, and that he'll be allowed to play the Blues' first SRA game.

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                                  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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                                    KiwiMurph
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                                    #488

                                    I actually think Ofa would miss week 1 in that scenario.

                                    Swinton is out week 1 for Tahs because they had one preseason game cancelled that he wasn't able to count towards his ban.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      I actually think Ofa would miss week 1 in that scenario.

                                      Swinton is out week 1 for Tahs because they had one preseason game cancelled that he wasn't able to count towards his ban.

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                                      Stargazer
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                                      #489

                                      @KiwiMurph Would he have been available for the first preseason game?

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                                        @KiwiMurph Would he have been available for the first preseason game?

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                                        KiwiMurph
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                                        #490

                                        @Stargazer The 1 Tah preseason game did play did count towards Swinton's ban but he had an extra week ban (4) compared to Ofa (3).

                                        https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/waratahs-stars-under-injury-clouds-as-brumbies-lose-wright-for-six-rounds-20210207-p570ag.html

                                        Swinton was shown a red card on his Test debut against the All Blacks last year and subsequently received a four-week ban.
                                        
                                        Coach Rob Penney confirmed Swinton is “no chance” of taking on the Reds, but he can consider himself a tad unlucky. Had the Waratahs not been forced to cancel their January 30 trial against the Brumbies, Swinton’s four match ban would have elapsed by round one.
                                        
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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Stargazer The 1 Tah preseason game did play did count towards Swinton's ban but he had an extra week ban (4) compared to Ofa (3).

                                          https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/waratahs-stars-under-injury-clouds-as-brumbies-lose-wright-for-six-rounds-20210207-p570ag.html

                                          Swinton was shown a red card on his Test debut against the All Blacks last year and subsequently received a four-week ban.
                                          
                                          Coach Rob Penney confirmed Swinton is “no chance” of taking on the Reds, but he can consider himself a tad unlucky. Had the Waratahs not been forced to cancel their January 30 trial against the Brumbies, Swinton’s four match ban would have elapsed by round one.
                                          
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                                          @KiwiMurph Yeah, that's why I'm asking whether he'd have been available for the first preseason game that was cancelled. If he wasn't available, then he would still have a 4th game to sit out regardless of the cancellation.

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