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Blues 2021

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #473

    Forwards I think I recognized from the game of three halves photos:

    Eklund
    Apisai
    Tolai
    Lay
    Renata
    McElroy
    Dyer
    Fepulea'i/Paea
    Goodhue
    Pierce
    Cowley-Tuioti
    Dalzell
    Plumtree
    Choat
    Rush
    Jones?

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    • TimT Away
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      Backs:

      Ruru
      Nock
      Christie
      Perofeta
      Black
      Plummer
      Grindley
      Fomai
      Telea
      Tele'a
      Lam
      Kneepkins
      Sullivan

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        Nogusta
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        #475

        Blues vs Canes

        Sullivan
        Kneepkens
        Grindlay
        T. Tele'a
        Lam
        Black
        Christie
        Rush
        Choat
        Plumtree
        Cowley Tuioti
        Darry
        Renata
        Eklund
        McElroy

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          Nogusta
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          #476

          Blues vs Chiefs

          Kneepkens
          Macilai
          Fomai
          Plummer
          M. Telea
          Perofeta
          Nock
          Rush
          Jones
          Plumtree
          Pierce
          Goodhue
          Fepuleai
          Tolai
          Lay

          Those were the starting lineups

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          • DuluthD Offline
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            Duluth
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            #477

            No AB's obviously. Interesting that they left out the next tier of loosies too. No Robinson, Hunt, Gibson

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              #478

              Saw Hos, Akira, Rieko and Dalton down at the Weetbix Try this morning. They looked fit ... NZZP Jnr got selfies with them and declared himself happy 🙂

              I'm excited about the Blues this year. Again. I can't help myself

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                No AB's obviously. Interesting that they left out the next tier of loosies too. No Robinson, Hunt, Gibson

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                #479

                @Duluth not sure about Gibson but Robinson was a late scratching, and Hunt hasn't been sighted at all during pre season. Head knock issues maybe?
                Also Narawa out for a cpl of weeks with broken finger

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                • TimT Away
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                  #480

                  Who do you guys think MacDonald will select for the first game? I wonder if a few ABs will start from the bench? I'm assuming that Niuia, Vikena, Hunt, Faiane, and Narawa will be unavailable. Probably Gibson too.

                  Big calls at 12 and lock. I'll guess this XXIII:

                  1 Hodgman
                  2 Eklund
                  3 Laulala
                  4 Tuipulotu
                  5 Goodhue
                  6 Ioane
                  7 Papalii
                  8 Sotutu
                  9 Christie
                  10 Black
                  11 Clarke
                  12 Plummer
                  13 Ioane
                  14 Telea
                  15 Perofeta

                  16 Tolai
                  17 Karl T
                  18 Ofa T
                  19 Cowley-Tuioti
                  20 Choat
                  21 Nock
                  22 Tele'a
                  23 Sullivan/Lam

                  Not sure all the ABs will be selected in round one, especially the loose forwards and maybe one of the props. Would like to see Ofa T start, as the Blues are his team. Akira Ioane or Sotutu to be subbed and the other two loose forwards to stay on the field. Hunt could've been handy as a turnover option in the early rounds. I'd prefer to have Nock and Pierce starting. Hope Plummer has improved his defence at 12!

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                    #481

                    I think that's a pretty good prediction.

                    Midfield is a big issue until Faiane returns. Laumape-PUJ combo will back themselves to cause havoc week 1.

                    I'd rather see Nock start at 9 but no doubt Christie will get first crack.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Who do you guys think MacDonald will select for the first game? I wonder if a few ABs will start from the bench? I'm assuming that Niuia, Vikena, Hunt, Faiane, and Narawa will be unavailable. Probably Gibson too.

                      Big calls at 12 and lock. I'll guess this XXIII:

                      1 Hodgman
                      2 Eklund
                      3 Laulala
                      4 Tuipulotu
                      5 Goodhue
                      6 Ioane
                      7 Papalii
                      8 Sotutu
                      9 Christie
                      10 Black
                      11 Clarke
                      12 Plummer
                      13 Ioane
                      14 Telea
                      15 Perofeta

                      16 Tolai
                      17 Karl T
                      18 Ofa T
                      19 Cowley-Tuioti
                      20 Choat
                      21 Nock
                      22 Tele'a
                      23 Sullivan/Lam

                      Not sure all the ABs will be selected in round one, especially the loose forwards and maybe one of the props. Would like to see Ofa T start, as the Blues are his team. Akira Ioane or Sotutu to be subbed and the other two loose forwards to stay on the field. Hunt could've been handy as a turnover option in the early rounds. I'd prefer to have Nock and Pierce starting. Hope Plummer has improved his defence at 12!

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                      Duluth
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                      #482

                      @Tim

                      Looks about right

                      I think Sullivan might start at 15 though. MacDonald has made some very positive comments about him.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Who do you guys think MacDonald will select for the first game? I wonder if a few ABs will start from the bench? I'm assuming that Niuia, Vikena, Hunt, Faiane, and Narawa will be unavailable. Probably Gibson too.

                        Big calls at 12 and lock. I'll guess this XXIII:

                        1 Hodgman
                        2 Eklund
                        3 Laulala
                        4 Tuipulotu
                        5 Goodhue
                        6 Ioane
                        7 Papalii
                        8 Sotutu
                        9 Christie
                        10 Black
                        11 Clarke
                        12 Plummer
                        13 Ioane
                        14 Telea
                        15 Perofeta

                        16 Tolai
                        17 Karl T
                        18 Ofa T
                        19 Cowley-Tuioti
                        20 Choat
                        21 Nock
                        22 Tele'a
                        23 Sullivan/Lam

                        Not sure all the ABs will be selected in round one, especially the loose forwards and maybe one of the props. Would like to see Ofa T start, as the Blues are his team. Akira Ioane or Sotutu to be subbed and the other two loose forwards to stay on the field. Hunt could've been handy as a turnover option in the early rounds. I'd prefer to have Nock and Pierce starting. Hope Plummer has improved his defence at 12!

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                        Winger
                        wrote on last edited by Winger
                        #483

                        @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                        Hunt could've been handy as a turnover option in the early rounds

                        Is he injured? edit. Ok. Seen a comment on this

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                          Bovidae
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                          #484

                          If the Blues don't play a preseason game will Ofa's ban then include the first SRA game? The 3-week suspension included the last 2 AB games and any rugby up until and including February 20. So he wouldn't have been able to play against the Crusaders this Sat.

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                            If the Blues don't play a preseason game will Ofa's ban then include the first SRA game? The 3-week suspension included the last 2 AB games and any rugby up until and including February 20. So he wouldn't have been able to play against the Crusaders this Sat.

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                            Tim
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                            #485

                            @Bovidae What about the game of three halves?

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                            • TimT Tim

                              @Bovidae What about the game of three halves?

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                              Bovidae
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                              #486

                              @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                              @Bovidae What about the game of three halves?

                              The ABs weren't available for games last Fri/Sat so I doubt that counted.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                If the Blues don't play a preseason game will Ofa's ban then include the first SRA game? The 3-week suspension included the last 2 AB games and any rugby up until and including February 20. So he wouldn't have been able to play against the Crusaders this Sat.

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                                Stargazer
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                                #487

                                @Bovidae Good question. The judicial decison worded the suspension as follows:

                                The player is therefore suspended for 3 weeks, up to and including Saturday 20 February 2021. This sanction includes the Player's next three scheduled matches as presented.”

                                What prevails, the period of the ban (up to and including 20 February) or the number of matches (3)? You could argue that he was available for the preseason game against the Crusaders, which was a scheduled game, which has been cancelled/postponed due to circumstances beyond his control, and that therefore that game should count as his third match anyway.

                                I think the period of the ban will prevail, just using common sense in this time of pandemic, and that he'll be allowed to play the Blues' first SRA game.

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                                  KiwiMurph
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                                  #488

                                  I actually think Ofa would miss week 1 in that scenario.

                                  Swinton is out week 1 for Tahs because they had one preseason game cancelled that he wasn't able to count towards his ban.

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    I actually think Ofa would miss week 1 in that scenario.

                                    Swinton is out week 1 for Tahs because they had one preseason game cancelled that he wasn't able to count towards his ban.

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                                    #489

                                    @KiwiMurph Would he have been available for the first preseason game?

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @KiwiMurph Would he have been available for the first preseason game?

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                                      KiwiMurph
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                                      #490

                                      @Stargazer The 1 Tah preseason game did play did count towards Swinton's ban but he had an extra week ban (4) compared to Ofa (3).

                                      https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/waratahs-stars-under-injury-clouds-as-brumbies-lose-wright-for-six-rounds-20210207-p570ag.html

                                      Swinton was shown a red card on his Test debut against the All Blacks last year and subsequently received a four-week ban.
                                      
                                      Coach Rob Penney confirmed Swinton is “no chance” of taking on the Reds, but he can consider himself a tad unlucky. Had the Waratahs not been forced to cancel their January 30 trial against the Brumbies, Swinton’s four match ban would have elapsed by round one.
                                      
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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        @Stargazer The 1 Tah preseason game did play did count towards Swinton's ban but he had an extra week ban (4) compared to Ofa (3).

                                        https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/waratahs-stars-under-injury-clouds-as-brumbies-lose-wright-for-six-rounds-20210207-p570ag.html

                                        Swinton was shown a red card on his Test debut against the All Blacks last year and subsequently received a four-week ban.
                                        
                                        Coach Rob Penney confirmed Swinton is “no chance” of taking on the Reds, but he can consider himself a tad unlucky. Had the Waratahs not been forced to cancel their January 30 trial against the Brumbies, Swinton’s four match ban would have elapsed by round one.
                                        
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                                        @KiwiMurph Yeah, that's why I'm asking whether he'd have been available for the first preseason game that was cancelled. If he wasn't available, then he would still have a 4th game to sit out regardless of the cancellation.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @KiwiMurph Yeah, that's why I'm asking whether he'd have been available for the first preseason game that was cancelled. If he wasn't available, then he would still have a 4th game to sit out regardless of the cancellation.

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                                          KiwiMurph
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                                          @Stargazer Yes. See the article above.

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