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  • sparkyS sparky
    1. Karl T
    2. Taylor
    3. Laulala
    4. Retallick
    5. Whitelock
    6. A. Ioane
    7. A. Savea
    8. H. Sotutu
    9. A. Smith
    10. R. Mo'unga
    11. L. Fainga'anuka
    12. D. Havaii
    13. ALB
    14. W. Jordan
    15. J. Barrett
    16. A. Aumua
    17. E. De Groot
    18. Ofa T
    19. S. Barrett
    20. D. Papali'i
    21. Weber
    22. B. Barrett
    23. R. Ioane
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    @sparky that's more like it! @Mackerzzzz are you picking a side to get knocked out in the pool stage?

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      @bones That's the one. Probably a bit early yet but showing some real promise.

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      @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2021:

      @bones That's the one. Probably a bit early yet but showing some real promise.

      He's not exactly a newbie! Been around a few years now. I'm surprised he's only 24.

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        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/an-inexperienced-all-blacks-xv-shows-the-unprecedented-depth-of-new-zealand-rugby-in-2021/

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @sparky De Groot is definitely one for the future but I think he is behind Ross in the LH prop pecking order.

          Coles will still be there as you can't beat experience.

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          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

          Coles will still be there as you can't beat experience.

          Trouble is Cole's experience includes a long record in beating the opposition, literally, and far too often, in front of the ref.
          Add: I fear as he ages and slows, he'll have less patience and more temptation to see red. Has been a great player for the All Blacks though.

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            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

            Coles will still be there as you can't beat experience.

            Trouble is Cole's experience includes a long record in beating the opposition, literally, and far too often, in front of the ref.
            Add: I fear as he ages and slows, he'll have less patience and more temptation to see red. Has been a great player for the All Blacks though.

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            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

            Coles will still be there as you can't beat experience.

            Trouble is Cole's experience includes a long record in beating the opposition, literally, and far too often, in front of the ref.
            Add: I fear as he ages and slows, he'll have less patience and more temptation to see red. Has been a great player for the All Blacks though.

            How often has Coles discipline been an issue at test level? I feel the opposite but probably more from personal experience - the longer in the tooth you get, the more likely you'll be able to pick up opposition cards than your own.

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              Love Dane Coles, one of the greatest ever AB Hookers but injuries mean he is in the twilight of his career. Going forward I think Kurt Eklund and Bradley Slater will offer the ABs more.

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                Williams, the newish Cantab Prop, might make the ABs this year.

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                  The back rowers that have impressed me the most this season have been papalii, Jacobson and blackadder. I was surprised how good the latter was at 7. Grace put in a good showing too vs the reds, but he has been otherwise somewhat quiet.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    Love Dane Coles, one of the greatest ever AB Hookers but injuries mean he is in the twilight of his career. Going forward I think Kurt Eklund and Bradley Slater will offer the ABs more.

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                    @sparky I feel like I'm on your period journey with you most of the time, but sometimes you jump the shark and just throw random shit out there.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/an-inexperienced-all-blacks-xv-shows-the-unprecedented-depth-of-new-zealand-rugby-in-2021/

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                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/an-inexperienced-all-blacks-xv-shows-the-unprecedented-depth-of-new-zealand-rugby-in-2021/

                      Apart from Josh Ioane (I'd go for Otere Black), that AB (10 caps or less team) looks bloody potent.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        Williams, the newish Cantab Prop, might make the ABs this year.

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                        @sparky the guy is a walking fridge but can move aswell. Will be bloody tempting having him come off the bench this year.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @sparky the guy is a walking fridge but can move aswell. Will be bloody tempting having him come off the bench this year.

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                          @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @sparky the guy is a walking fridge but can move aswell. Will be bloody tempting having him come off the bench this year.

                          South Africa and England think they can mug us up front. I want AB forwards who can break their players.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/an-inexperienced-all-blacks-xv-shows-the-unprecedented-depth-of-new-zealand-rugby-in-2021/

                            Apart from Josh Ioane (I'd go for Otere Black), that AB (10 caps or less team) looks bloody potent.

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                            @victor-meldrew Apart from Reuban Love, none of the younger First Fives in Super Rugby look nearly good enough to play Test footy. That's fine, all three of Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga and Damian Mckenzie should be around for the next World Cup

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                              @victor-meldrew Apart from Reuban Love, none of the younger First Fives in Super Rugby look nearly good enough to play Test footy. That's fine, all three of Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga and Damian Mckenzie should be around for the next World Cup

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                              @sparky
                              And I'm OK with Otere Black as a emergency backup. May not set the house on fire, but he's turned into a pretty safe pair of hands

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                Love Dane Coles, one of the greatest ever AB Hookers but injuries mean he is in the twilight of his career. Going forward I think Kurt Eklund and Bradley Slater will offer the ABs more.

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                                @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Love Dane Coles, one of the greatest ever AB Hookers but injuries mean he is in the twilight of his career. Going forward I think Kurt Eklund and Bradley Slater will offer the ABs more.

                                Eklund is already 29 so hardly a player for the future. Slater has never impressed me but has time to improve. There is a reason that Taukei'aho plays big minutes for the Chiefs.

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                                • sparkyS sparky

                                  @victor-meldrew Apart from Reuban Love, none of the younger First Fives in Super Rugby look nearly good enough to play Test footy. That's fine, all three of Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga and Damian Mckenzie should be around for the next World Cup

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                                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @victor-meldrew Apart from Reuban Love, none of the younger First Fives in Super Rugby look nearly good enough to play Test footy. That's fine, all three of Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga and Damian Mckenzie should be around for the next World Cup

                                  Big call on Love. The Hurricanes don't allow him to play like a 10, so unless you have seen way more of him than I have I can't see how you can say he is better than the other young 10s.

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    Williams, the newish Cantab Prop, might make the ABs this year.

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                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Williams, the newish Cantab Prop, might make the ABs this year.

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Williams, the newish Cantab Prop, might make the ABs this year.

                                    Too young yet he’s only 20 plenty of other options but he could be come WC time.

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @victor-meldrew Apart from Reuban Love, none of the younger First Fives in Super Rugby look nearly good enough to play Test footy. That's fine, all three of Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga and Damian Mckenzie should be around for the next World Cup

                                      Big call on Love. The Hurricanes don't allow him to play like a 10, so unless you have seen way more of him than I have I can't see how you can say he is better than the other young 10s.

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                                      @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @victor-meldrew Apart from Reuban Love, none of the younger First Fives in Super Rugby look nearly good enough to play Test footy. That's fine, all three of Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga and Damian Mckenzie should be around for the next World Cup

                                      Big call on Love. The Hurricanes don't allow him to play like a 10, so unless you have seen way more of him than I have I can't see how you can say he is better than the other young 10s.

                                      The canes dont alow most players to play to there potential...

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                                        @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @victor-meldrew Apart from Reuban Love, none of the younger First Fives in Super Rugby look nearly good enough to play Test footy. That's fine, all three of Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga and Damian Mckenzie should be around for the next World Cup

                                        Big call on Love. The Hurricanes don't allow him to play like a 10, so unless you have seen way more of him than I have I can't see how you can say he is better than the other young 10s.

                                        The canes dont alow most players to play to there potential...

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                                        @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @victor-meldrew Apart from Reuban Love, none of the younger First Fives in Super Rugby look nearly good enough to play Test footy. That's fine, all three of Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga and Damian Mckenzie should be around for the next World Cup

                                        Big call on Love. The Hurricanes don't allow him to play like a 10, so unless you have seen way more of him than I have I can't see how you can say he is better than the other young 10s.

                                        The canes dont alow most players to play to there potential...

                                        Pfffft, I don’t see other franchises promoting midgets to play at lock like they do.......

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @victor-meldrew Apart from Reuban Love, none of the younger First Fives in Super Rugby look nearly good enough to play Test footy. That's fine, all three of Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga and Damian Mckenzie should be around for the next World Cup

                                          Big call on Love. The Hurricanes don't allow him to play like a 10, so unless you have seen way more of him than I have I can't see how you can say he is better than the other young 10s.

                                          The canes dont alow most players to play to there potential...

                                          Pfffft, I don’t see other franchises promoting midgets to play at lock like they do.......

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                                          @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @victor-meldrew Apart from Reuban Love, none of the younger First Fives in Super Rugby look nearly good enough to play Test footy. That's fine, all three of Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga and Damian Mckenzie should be around for the next World Cup

                                          Big call on Love. The Hurricanes don't allow him to play like a 10, so unless you have seen way more of him than I have I can't see how you can say he is better than the other young 10s.

                                          The canes dont alow most players to play to there potential...

                                          Pfffft, I don’t see other franchises promoting midgets to play at lock like they do.......

                                          The Chiefs say hi.

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