All Blacks 2022
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.For me Blackadder jack of all trades, but master of none. Huge work rate. Makes for excellent squaddie, but not same as starter.
One of the more overused terms that barely ever applies. What happens is because of others in the squad they get used around them. Doesn’t mean they aren’t quality in one position.
In Blackadder’s situation he has shown great ability at both 6 and 7 at super rugby level. And last year at test level formed a very good trio with Ardie and Sotutu. But still very much a work in progress at test level given he’s only started 5 tests and come off the bench for another few.
The Jack of all trades label was said for example about Masoe (who was a very good no8) and Toeava (a quality midfielder and his best position but I think was persisted with at fullback for so long because of his boot)
Blackadder to me is not big enough to be a top international 6 or 8. Also can’t see him supplanting Cane or Paps at 7.
The strongest plus is that loosie trios are about balance, and his work rate allows a more seagulling type to be included.
Same height as Frizell 1.95 m
And Blackadder is 111kg Frizell 108kg,
he is bigger than people think
And compare that to say a Jeriome Kaino
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.For me Blackadder jack of all trades, but master of none. Huge work rate. Makes for excellent squaddie, but not same as starter.
One of the more overused terms that barely ever applies. What happens is because of others in the squad they get used around them. Doesn’t mean they aren’t quality in one position.
In Blackadder’s situation he has shown great ability at both 6 and 7 at super rugby level. And last year at test level formed a very good trio with Ardie and Sotutu. But still very much a work in progress at test level given he’s only started 5 tests and come off the bench for another few.
The Jack of all trades label was said for example about Masoe (who was a very good no8) and Toeava (a quality midfielder and his best position but I think was persisted with at fullback for so long because of his boot)
Blackadder to me is not big enough to be a top international 6 or 8. Also can’t see him supplanting Cane or Paps at 7.
The strongest plus is that loosie trios are about balance, and his work rate allows a more seagulling type to be included.
Same height as Frizell 1.95 m
And Blackadder is 111kg Frizell 108kg,
he is bigger than people think
And compare that to say a Jeriome Kaino
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@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
Height: 1.95 m
Weight: 108 kgAccording to official stats he is or do you personally weight him on your bathroom scales.
So according to you he is 118 Kg no way.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
Height: 1.95 m
Weight: 108 kgAccording to official stats he is or do you personally weight him on your bathroom scales.
So according to you he is 118 Kg no way.
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@Chris I look at him and I look at other people listed around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
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@Chris I look at him and I look at other people listed around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris I look at him and I look at other people around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
BS now he is bigger than Akira,Foster also said Jordie was a wing.
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@Chris I look at him and I look at other people listed around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
Height: 1.95 m
Weight: 108 kgAssume that's from ABs site? Same stats on Highlanders page.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris I look at him and I look at other people around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
Kaino was
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris I look at him and I look at other people around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
Kaino was
And he covered lock a few times for the ABs
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
Height: 1.95 m
Weight: 108 kgAssume that's from ABs site? Same stats on Highlanders page.
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
Height: 1.95 m
Weight: 108 kgAssume that's from ABs site? Same stats on Highlanders page.
Yes it was.
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I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
Ok I concede that one but he is still bigger than people think .
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
Since that article he has managed another 3kg according to Saders website but he looks to have bulked up a bit this year to my eyes.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
Since that article he has managed another 3kg according to Saders website but he looks to have bulked up a bit this year to my eyes.
@Crucial Yeah - Scott will be all of 120kgs these days.
Mainly posted to give some idea of the necessary dimensions to play lock. Fifita considered too light at 113kgs.
Frizell and Kaino both heavier than that and pretty obvious just looking at them.
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@Crucial Yeah - Scott will be all of 120kgs these days.
Mainly posted to give some idea of the necessary dimensions to play lock. Fifita considered too light at 113kgs.
Frizell and Kaino both heavier than that and pretty obvious just looking at them.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial Yeah - Scott will be all of 120kgs these days.
Mainly posted to give some idea of the necessary dimensions to play lock. Fifita considered too light at 113kgs.
Frizell and Kaino both heavier than that and pretty obvious just looking at them.
I think Fifita saying he didn’t like the hard work required to play lock was probably an issue too.
Sigh, looks like James Blackwells AB career is over before it even starts.
Barrett is definitely more “stocky” than Whitelock and Retallick ( if someone who is about 6’ 6” can be described as stocky that is )
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial Yeah - Scott will be all of 120kgs these days.
Mainly posted to give some idea of the necessary dimensions to play lock. Fifita considered too light at 113kgs.
Frizell and Kaino both heavier than that and pretty obvious just looking at them.
I think Fifita saying he didn’t like the hard work required to play lock was probably an issue too.
Sigh, looks like James Blackwells AB career is over before it even starts.
Barrett is definitely more “stocky” than Whitelock and Retallick ( if someone who is about 6’ 6” can be described as stocky that is )
@MN5 That comment probably helps explain why he's not there at all. Though, apparently they got him to 116kgs and still wanted him at blindside.
But, if people are seriously wandering around thinking Frizell is only 108kgs it's no wonder they don't understand why he (and Scott) are getting picked at 6!!!
