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  • ChrisC Chris

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!

    He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.

    Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.

    Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
    Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
    Height: 1.95 m
    Weight: 108 kg

    According to official stats he is or do you personally weight him on your bathroom scales.

    So according to you he is 118 Kg no way.

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    @Chris I look at him and I look at other people listed around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.

    You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @Chris I look at him and I look at other people listed around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.

      You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.

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      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Chris I look at him and I look at other people around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.

      You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.

      Kaino was

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @Chris I look at him and I look at other people listed around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.

        You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.

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        @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Chris I look at him and I look at other people around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.

        You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.

        BS now he is bigger than Akira,Foster also said Jordie was a wing.
        Don’t quote Foster or we could pull out a number of stupid shit he has said .

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @Chris I look at him and I look at other people listed around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.

          You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.

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          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!

          He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.

          Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.

          Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
          Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
          Height: 1.95 m
          Weight: 108 kg

          Assume that's from ABs site? Same stats on Highlanders page.

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            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Chris I look at him and I look at other people around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.

            You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.

            Kaino was

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            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Chris I look at him and I look at other people around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.

            You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.

            Kaino was

            And he covered lock a few times for the ABs

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!

              He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.

              Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.

              Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
              Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
              Height: 1.95 m
              Weight: 108 kg

              Assume that's from ABs site? Same stats on Highlanders page.

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              @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!

              He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.

              Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.

              Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
              Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
              Height: 1.95 m
              Weight: 108 kg

              Assume that's from ABs site? Same stats on Highlanders page.

              Yes it was.

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                I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                  I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

                  Same stats

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                    I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

                    Same stats

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                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                    I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

                    Same stats

                    But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                      I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

                      Same stats

                      But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.

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                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                      I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

                      Same stats

                      But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.

                      Ok I concede that one but he is still bigger than people think .
                      He compares with the other 6s

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                        Crusaders site has Blackadder at 190cms and 111kg

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                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-time-to-super-size-scott-barrett/GXNDQQUWQYOKHQEI4RDRHOKQSA/

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                            We've got a lot of props that are taller than most of the AB loose forwards.

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-time-to-super-size-scott-barrett/GXNDQQUWQYOKHQEI4RDRHOKQSA/

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                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-time-to-super-size-scott-barrett/GXNDQQUWQYOKHQEI4RDRHOKQSA/

                              Since that article he has managed another 3kg according to Saders website but he looks to have bulked up a bit this year to my eyes.

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-time-to-super-size-scott-barrett/GXNDQQUWQYOKHQEI4RDRHOKQSA/

                                Since that article he has managed another 3kg according to Saders website but he looks to have bulked up a bit this year to my eyes.

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                                Chris B.
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                                @Crucial Yeah - Scott will be all of 120kgs these days.

                                Mainly posted to give some idea of the necessary dimensions to play lock. Fifita considered too light at 113kgs.

                                Frizell and Kaino both heavier than that and pretty obvious just looking at them.

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @Crucial Yeah - Scott will be all of 120kgs these days.

                                  Mainly posted to give some idea of the necessary dimensions to play lock. Fifita considered too light at 113kgs.

                                  Frizell and Kaino both heavier than that and pretty obvious just looking at them.

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                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Crucial Yeah - Scott will be all of 120kgs these days.

                                  Mainly posted to give some idea of the necessary dimensions to play lock. Fifita considered too light at 113kgs.

                                  Frizell and Kaino both heavier than that and pretty obvious just looking at them.

                                  I think Fifita saying he didn’t like the hard work required to play lock was probably an issue too.

                                  Sigh, looks like James Blackwells AB career is over before it even starts.

                                  Barrett is definitely more “stocky” than Whitelock and Retallick ( if someone who is about 6’ 6” can be described as stocky that is )

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Crucial Yeah - Scott will be all of 120kgs these days.

                                    Mainly posted to give some idea of the necessary dimensions to play lock. Fifita considered too light at 113kgs.

                                    Frizell and Kaino both heavier than that and pretty obvious just looking at them.

                                    I think Fifita saying he didn’t like the hard work required to play lock was probably an issue too.

                                    Sigh, looks like James Blackwells AB career is over before it even starts.

                                    Barrett is definitely more “stocky” than Whitelock and Retallick ( if someone who is about 6’ 6” can be described as stocky that is )

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                                    @MN5 That comment probably helps explain why he's not there at all. Though, apparently they got him to 116kgs and still wanted him at blindside.

                                    But, if people are seriously wandering around thinking Frizell is only 108kgs it's no wonder they don't understand why he (and Scott) are getting picked at 6!!!

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @MN5 That comment probably helps explain why he's not there at all. Though, apparently they got him to 116kgs and still wanted him at blindside.

                                      But, if people are seriously wandering around thinking Frizell is only 108kgs it's no wonder they don't understand why he (and Scott) are getting picked at 6!!!

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                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @MN5 That comment probably helps explain why he's not there at all. Though, apparently they got him to 116kgs and still wanted him at blindside.

                                      But, if people are seriously wandering around thinking Frizell is only 108kgs it's no wonder they don't understand why he (and Scott) are getting picked at 6!!!

                                      I think he’d be about that ( never having seen him in the flesh I could be wrong of course )

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @MN5 That comment probably helps explain why he's not there at all. Though, apparently they got him to 116kgs and still wanted him at blindside.

                                        But, if people are seriously wandering around thinking Frizell is only 108kgs it's no wonder they don't understand why he (and Scott) are getting picked at 6!!!

                                        I think he’d be about that ( never having seen him in the flesh I could be wrong of course )

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                                        @MN5 Now you're just trolling me. 🙂

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          It's not really worth even discussing the idea that anyone is displacing Ardie from 8 except through injury.

                                          Blackadder is a good option for the squad/bench because he can play all three loose forward positions competently and a lot more impactful than being suggested above.

                                          I think the player that will miss out the most on the end of year tour is Cullen Grace. I would have loved to see him get a crack at International level after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby.

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                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby

                                          This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.

                                          Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.

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