All Blacks 2022
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Herp the fucking derp let's move the bloke who was arguably our player of the tournament and the ever present feature of our midfield and our most dangerous attacking weapon
Because reasons
This is why democracy does not work
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Herp the fucking derp let's move the bloke who was arguably our player of the tournament and the ever present feature of our midfield and our most dangerous attacking weapon
Because reasons
This is why democracy does not work
I don't want Ardie in the 12 jersey either.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.For me Blackadder jack of all trades, but master of none. Huge work rate. Makes for excellent squaddie, but not same as starter.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.For me Blackadder jack of all trades, but master of none. Huge work rate. Makes for excellent squaddie, but not same as starter.
@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.For me Blackadder jack of all trades, but master of none. Huge work rate. Makes for excellent squaddie, but not same as starter.
One of the more overused terms that barely ever applies. What happens is because of others in the squad they get used around them. Doesn’t mean they aren’t quality in one position.
In Blackadder’s situation he has shown great ability at both 6 and 7 at super rugby level. And last year at test level formed a very good trio with Ardie and Sotutu. But still very much a work in progress at test level given he’s only started 5 tests and come off the bench for another few.
The Jack of all trades label was said for example about Masoe (who was a very good no8) and Toeava (a quality midfielder and his best position but I think was persisted with at fullback for so long because of his boot)
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.For me Blackadder jack of all trades, but master of none. Huge work rate. Makes for excellent squaddie, but not same as starter.
One of the more overused terms that barely ever applies. What happens is because of others in the squad they get used around them. Doesn’t mean they aren’t quality in one position.
In Blackadder’s situation he has shown great ability at both 6 and 7 at super rugby level. And last year at test level formed a very good trio with Ardie and Sotutu. But still very much a work in progress at test level given he’s only started 5 tests and come off the bench for another few.
The Jack of all trades label was said for example about Masoe (who was a very good no8) and Toeava (a quality midfielder and his best position but I think was persisted with at fullback for so long because of his boot)
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.For me Blackadder jack of all trades, but master of none. Huge work rate. Makes for excellent squaddie, but not same as starter.
One of the more overused terms that barely ever applies. What happens is because of others in the squad they get used around them. Doesn’t mean they aren’t quality in one position.
In Blackadder’s situation he has shown great ability at both 6 and 7 at super rugby level. And last year at test level formed a very good trio with Ardie and Sotutu. But still very much a work in progress at test level given he’s only started 5 tests and come off the bench for another few.
The Jack of all trades label was said for example about Masoe (who was a very good no8) and Toeava (a quality midfielder and his best position but I think was persisted with at fullback for so long because of his boot)
Blackadder to me is not big enough to be a top international 6 or 8. Also can’t see him supplanting Cane or Paps at 7.
The strongest plus is that loosie trios are about balance, and his work rate allows a more seagulling type to be included.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.For me Blackadder jack of all trades, but master of none. Huge work rate. Makes for excellent squaddie, but not same as starter.
One of the more overused terms that barely ever applies. What happens is because of others in the squad they get used around them. Doesn’t mean they aren’t quality in one position.
In Blackadder’s situation he has shown great ability at both 6 and 7 at super rugby level. And last year at test level formed a very good trio with Ardie and Sotutu. But still very much a work in progress at test level given he’s only started 5 tests and come off the bench for another few.
The Jack of all trades label was said for example about Masoe (who was a very good no8) and Toeava (a quality midfielder and his best position but I think was persisted with at fullback for so long because of his boot)
Blackadder to me is not big enough to be a top international 6 or 8. Also can’t see him supplanting Cane or Paps at 7.
The strongest plus is that loosie trios are about balance, and his work rate allows a more seagulling type to be included.
@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.For me Blackadder jack of all trades, but master of none. Huge work rate. Makes for excellent squaddie, but not same as starter.
One of the more overused terms that barely ever applies. What happens is because of others in the squad they get used around them. Doesn’t mean they aren’t quality in one position.
In Blackadder’s situation he has shown great ability at both 6 and 7 at super rugby level. And last year at test level formed a very good trio with Ardie and Sotutu. But still very much a work in progress at test level given he’s only started 5 tests and come off the bench for another few.
The Jack of all trades label was said for example about Masoe (who was a very good no8) and Toeava (a quality midfielder and his best position but I think was persisted with at fullback for so long because of his boot)
Blackadder to me is not big enough to be a top international 6 or 8. Also can’t see him supplanting Cane or Paps at 7.
The strongest plus is that loosie trios are about balance, and his work rate allows a more seagulling type to be included.
Same height as Frizell 1.95 m
And Blackadder is 111kg Frizell 108kg,
he is bigger than people think
And compare that to say a Jeriome Kaino
Who was 1.96 and 110 Kg. -
@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.For me Blackadder jack of all trades, but master of none. Huge work rate. Makes for excellent squaddie, but not same as starter.
One of the more overused terms that barely ever applies. What happens is because of others in the squad they get used around them. Doesn’t mean they aren’t quality in one position.
In Blackadder’s situation he has shown great ability at both 6 and 7 at super rugby level. And last year at test level formed a very good trio with Ardie and Sotutu. But still very much a work in progress at test level given he’s only started 5 tests and come off the bench for another few.
The Jack of all trades label was said for example about Masoe (who was a very good no8) and Toeava (a quality midfielder and his best position but I think was persisted with at fullback for so long because of his boot)
Blackadder to me is not big enough to be a top international 6 or 8. Also can’t see him supplanting Cane or Paps at 7.
The strongest plus is that loosie trios are about balance, and his work rate allows a more seagulling type to be included.
Same height as Frizell 1.95 m
And Blackadder is 111kg Frizell 108kg,
he is bigger than people think
And compare that to say a Jeriome Kaino
Who was 1.96 and 110 Kg. -
@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
I hope Foster has it sent to him.
I hope he and Ryan then promptly put it in the bin.
The YT bloke seems to have the current obsession in England that Cane is crap and selected his 6/7/8 around that. Ardie is an 8 not a 7 - that's his position in SR and Test rugby and has been for several seasons. Blackadder is primarily a 6 and currently injured, so a bit weird to say an out-of-position injured player is the best option at 8.
Your opinion I like the team he named .
That back row is up there with playing an injured Jordie on the wing.
Swap Ardie to 8 and Blackadder to 7, I remember Foster praising that combo last season.
Wouldn't be far away as a Combo, Ryan also rates Blackadder highly.
Frizell was also bought in to the playing xv when he was fit, straight over Akira.For me Blackadder jack of all trades, but master of none. Huge work rate. Makes for excellent squaddie, but not same as starter.
One of the more overused terms that barely ever applies. What happens is because of others in the squad they get used around them. Doesn’t mean they aren’t quality in one position.
In Blackadder’s situation he has shown great ability at both 6 and 7 at super rugby level. And last year at test level formed a very good trio with Ardie and Sotutu. But still very much a work in progress at test level given he’s only started 5 tests and come off the bench for another few.
The Jack of all trades label was said for example about Masoe (who was a very good no8) and Toeava (a quality midfielder and his best position but I think was persisted with at fullback for so long because of his boot)
Blackadder to me is not big enough to be a top international 6 or 8. Also can’t see him supplanting Cane or Paps at 7.
The strongest plus is that loosie trios are about balance, and his work rate allows a more seagulling type to be included.
Same height as Frizell 1.95 m
And Blackadder is 111kg Frizell 108kg,
he is bigger than people think
And compare that to say a Jeriome Kaino
Who was 1.96 and 110 Kg. -
@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
Height: 1.95 m
Weight: 108 kgAccording to official stats he is or do you personally weight him on your bathroom scales.
So according to you he is 118 Kg no way.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
Height: 1.95 m
Weight: 108 kgAccording to official stats he is or do you personally weight him on your bathroom scales.
So according to you he is 118 Kg no way.
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@Chris I look at him and I look at other people listed around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
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@Chris I look at him and I look at other people listed around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris I look at him and I look at other people around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
BS now he is bigger than Akira,Foster also said Jordie was a wing.
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@Chris I look at him and I look at other people listed around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
Height: 1.95 m
Weight: 108 kgAssume that's from ABs site? Same stats on Highlanders page.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris I look at him and I look at other people around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
Kaino was
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris I look at him and I look at other people around the same weight and he is obviously far bigger.
You cannot be lock cover for the ABs at 108kgs.
Kaino was
And he covered lock a few times for the ABs
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
Height: 1.95 m
Weight: 108 kgAssume that's from ABs site? Same stats on Highlanders page.
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris Frizell is not 108kgs!!!
He'll be close on 10kgs heavier than that.
Remember when Foster said he could cover lock.
Shannon Michael Frizell is a Tongan born New Zealand rugby union player who plays for Ta$man in the Bunnings NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby. His position of choice is flanker. Wikipedia
Born: 11 February 1994 (age 28 years), Tongatapu, Tonga
Height: 1.95 m
Weight: 108 kgAssume that's from ABs site? Same stats on Highlanders page.
Yes it was.
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I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
Ok I concede that one but he is still bigger than people think .
He compares with the other 6s
