All Blacks 2022
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby
This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.
Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby
This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.
Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
Gace - Fair Skinned Maori Jesus.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby
This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.
Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
Gace - Fair Skinned Maori Jesus.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby
This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.
Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
Gace - Fair Skinned Maori Jesus.
isn;t that already claimed by goodhue?
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby
This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.
Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
Gace - Fair Skinned Maori Jesus.
isn;t that already claimed by goodhue?
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby
This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.
Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
Gace - Fair Skinned Maori Jesus.
isn;t that already claimed by goodhue?
I don 't think he fits that criteria.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby
This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.
Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby
This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.
Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.
Agree. Hard to tell if he was timing his run a bit late or had a couple of good games.
We often see stand outs early in the season and others that pick up toward the pointy end.
Playing well early on to get noticed then struggling through the rest of the year with the edge taken off is quite common. You mentioned MMT and I would put him in that category. Might even throw Nankivell in there as well. Was in great form and looking like a contender for a while but by the time the Maori AB games came around he looked burned out. B Sullivan had golden touches early that turned to ugly ones as well.
I guess that the selectors are used to seeing all of this and pick accordingly although they took a gamble with PGS who was already sliding when he got a black jersey. -
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby
This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.
Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
Gace - Fair Skinned Maori Jesus.
isn;t that already claimed by goodhue?
I don 't think he fits that criteria.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby
This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.
Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
Gace - Fair Skinned Maori Jesus.
isn;t that already claimed by goodhue?
I don 't think he fits that criteria.
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Rough on the three blokes who’ve all had brothers play for the ABs but the fern reputation can’t be wrong in this case.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
His Dad played against Richard Metcalfe who was 7 foot.
Thank the lord it was only Scotland.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
His Dad played against Richard Metcalfe who was 7 foot.
Thank the lord it was only Scotland.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
His Dad played against Richard Metcalfe who was 7 foot.
Thank the lord it was only Scotland.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
Are we talking about Akira now.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
Are we talking about Akira now.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
Are we talking about Akira now.
Nah. Haven't gotten around to players that beat defenders yet...
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
Are we talking about Akira now.
Nah. Haven't gotten around to players that beat defenders yet...
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
Are we talking about Akira now.
Nah. Haven't gotten around to players that beat defenders yet...
You still won't have then when you mention Akira, unless a gentle push counts.
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Back on topic I would expect Frizell will likely get the 6 jersey against Japan - if for no one other reason than to give him some game time given Ta$man aren't in the playoffs - it will be nearly 2 months since Shannon last played by the time the Japan test rolls around.
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Back on topic I would expect Frizell will likely get the 6 jersey against Japan - if for no one other reason than to give him some game time given Ta$man aren't in the playoffs - it will be nearly 2 months since Shannon last played by the time the Japan test rolls around.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
Back on topic I would expect Frizell will likely get the 6 jersey against Japan - if for no one other reason than to give him some game time given Ta$man aren't in the playoffs - it will be nearly 2 months since Shannon played by the time the Japan test rolls around.
I see what you did there
I reckon Akira starts against Japan.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
Are we talking about Akira now.
Nah. Haven't gotten around to players that beat defenders yet...
You still won't have then when you mention Akira, unless a gentle push counts.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
Are we talking about Akira now.
Nah. Haven't gotten around to players that beat defenders yet...
You still won't have then when you mention Akira, unless a gentle push counts.
We wouldn't want Ethan dislocating his shoulder! Gentle pushes shouldn't be allowed.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
Are we talking about Akira now.
Nah. Haven't gotten around to players that beat defenders yet...
You still won't have then when you mention Akira, unless a gentle push counts.
We wouldn't want Ethan dislocating his shoulder! Gentle pushes shouldn't be allowed.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.
Same stats
But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.
That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.
Are we talking about Akira now.
Nah. Haven't gotten around to players that beat defenders yet...
You still won't have then when you mention Akira, unless a gentle push counts.
We wouldn't want Ethan dislocating his shoulder! Gentle pushes shouldn't be allowed.
Very True as we do not want Akira tripping over and hurting his foot again in the act of gentle pushing.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
Back on topic I would expect Frizell will likely get the 6 jersey against Japan - if for no one other reason than to give him some game time given Ta$man aren't in the playoffs - it will be nearly 2 months since Shannon played by the time the Japan test rolls around.
I see what you did there
I reckon Akira starts against Japan.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
Back on topic I would expect Frizell will likely get the 6 jersey against Japan - if for no one other reason than to give him some game time given Ta$man aren't in the playoffs - it will be nearly 2 months since Shannon played by the time the Japan test rolls around.
I see what you did there
I reckon Akira starts against Japan.
his name alone could "clearly" confuse them...
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
Back on topic I would expect Frizell will likely get the 6 jersey against Japan - if for no one other reason than to give him some game time given Ta$man aren't in the playoffs - it will be nearly 2 months since Shannon played by the time the Japan test rolls around.
I see what you did there
I reckon Akira starts against Japan.
his name alone could "clearly" confuse them...
@nostrildamus Aumua has to be in the picture for the northen tour.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
We've got a lot of props that are taller than most of the AB loose forwards.
Taller. Longer legs. Longer stride. Faster.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
after looking better than both Ioane and Sotutu throughout Super Rugby
This is a myth. Grace was off the pace early in Super Rugby and then got better with a few prominent games near the end of the season. Even in his big games in the finals he wasn't prefect and had a fairly high misses tackle count. He carried on his end of season good form for the Maori. But it's easy to see why he wasn't selected in the initial AB squad, he wasn't an incumbent from most of last season and had an average Super campaign with a good ending.
Saying he was better than Sotutu is just bollocks. If we're looking at Super campaigns then MMT probably had the best form over the season.
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
That Charlie Ngatai bloke getting injured was a real loss.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
That Charlie Ngatai bloke getting injured was a real loss.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern
That Charlie Ngatai bloke getting injured was a real loss.
Pragmatic bunch of fans on here. I don’t think it’s ever been mentioned.
