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RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy

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    England ran straight at Mo'unga and made easy metre's and got points out of it. He was mentally broken and hid from first receiver for the rest of the game.

    He still has the same problem now. When the game gets tough he doesn't take control he gives up the first receiver spot

    A flat track bully

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      the Ref worries me for this game Carley is prone to slow the game down with penalties and pedantic ones at that.
      He will be a Ref the Italians will be happy with.
      Set piece kick fest maybe the way the game is shaping up.

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      • F foobaNZ

        Wow blaming Mo'unga for 2019 is such a stupid take I don't know what to say lol.

        And I hate the Saders.

        Our lack of physicality was the problem that day. We were boys against men.

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        @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        We were boys against men

        No. We were dumb, dumb, dumb. From the selection through to the final whistle.

        That loss hurt more than 2007 - and I was there in Cardiff.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

          Just on the DM/BB axis. Have we seen that in a big test? I'm quite excited to see how it goes.

          Well Mo'unga has already lost us one world cup, no need to make it two

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          @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

          Just on the DM/BB axis. Have we seen that in a big test? I'm quite excited to see how it goes.

          Well Mo'unga has already lost us one world cup, no need to make it two

          I'll get the popcorn.

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

            We were boys against men

            No. We were dumb, dumb, dumb. From the selection through to the final whistle.

            That loss hurt more than 2007 - and I was there in Cardiff.

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            @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

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            • DuluthD Offline
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              Former Canterbury player Jon Preston had excellent analysis of Mo'unga shitness at halftime in that match

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              • F foobaNZ

                @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

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                @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

                It's history now, but if we'd kept our head we'd have been able to win that game. Blew opportunities.

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  England ran straight at Mo'unga and made easy metre's and got points out of it. He was mentally broken and hid from first receiver for the rest of the game.

                  He still has the same problem now. When the game gets tough he doesn't take control he gives up the first receiver spot

                  A flat track bully

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                  @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                  A flat track bully

                  Well let’s hope our forwards turn up this week and next to give the useless prick a nice flat track eh?

                  Cos if we don’t make huge improvements in our accuracy and discipline, particularly at the breakdown, then Fozzie may as well pick me at 10

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                    @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

                    It's history now, but if we'd kept our head we'd have been able to win that game. Blew opportunities.

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                    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                    if we'd kept our head

                    A first five that didn't want to touch the ball really didn't help

                    It's ok now. He's never done that in a pressure game since then

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                      @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

                      It's history now, but if we'd kept our head we'd have been able to win that game. Blew opportunities.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                      @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                      @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

                      It's history now, but if we'd kept our head we'd have been able to win that game. Blew opportunities.

                      The Whitelock penalty still burns

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                      • voodooV voodoo

                        @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        A flat track bully

                        Well let’s hope our forwards turn up this week and next to give the useless prick a nice flat track eh?

                        Cos if we don’t make huge improvements in our accuracy and discipline, particularly at the breakdown, then Fozzie may as well pick me at 10

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                        @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        Cos if we don’t make huge improvements in our accuracy and discipline, particularly at the breakdown, then

                        Rinse and repeat for the last 6-7 years.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          the Ref worries me for this game Carley is prone to slow the game down with penalties and pedantic ones at that.
                          He will be a Ref the Italians will be happy with.
                          Set piece kick fest maybe the way the game is shaping up.

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                          @Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                          the Ref worries me for this game Carley is prone to slow the game down with penalties and pedantic ones at that.
                          He will be a Ref the Italians will be happy with.
                          Set piece kick fest maybe the way the game is shaping up.

                          In a way that is good, that we get that versus Italy, as we will need to be able to overcome that sort of game versus much better teams.

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                            @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                            We were boys against men

                            No. We were dumb, dumb, dumb. From the selection through to the final whistle.

                            That loss hurt more than 2007 - and I was there in Cardiff.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                            @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                            We were boys against men

                            No. We were dumb, dumb, dumb. From the selection through to the final whistle.

                            That loss hurt more than 2007 - and I was there in Cardiff.

                            At least then we had the ref to blame rather than our own (lack of) dry powder

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              the Ref worries me for this game Carley is prone to slow the game down with penalties and pedantic ones at that.
                              He will be a Ref the Italians will be happy with.
                              Set piece kick fest maybe the way the game is shaping up.

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                              taniwharugby
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                              @Chris guess it depends if in his mind we are meant to win or not...

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

                                It's history now, but if we'd kept our head we'd have been able to win that game. Blew opportunities.

                                The Whitelock penalty still burns

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                                @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

                                It's history now, but if we'd kept our head we'd have been able to win that game. Blew opportunities.

                                The Whitelock penalty still burns

                                The Read Staring Eyes still haunt...

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                                  @Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                  the Ref worries me for this game Carley is prone to slow the game down with penalties and pedantic ones at that.
                                  He will be a Ref the Italians will be happy with.
                                  Set piece kick fest maybe the way the game is shaping up.

                                  In a way that is good, that we get that versus Italy, as we will need to be able to overcome that sort of game versus much better teams.

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                                  @Machpants

                                  Yeah it is, as no doubt the QF onwards are going to be all grinds.

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                                    I have only just realised that Carley is the ref, and now I have an extra 2 hours to do something other than watch rugby on Saturday morning.

                                    Sad that my lifelong love of rugby has diminished to that point.

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                                    • voodooV voodoo

                                      @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                      A flat track bully

                                      Well let’s hope our forwards turn up this week and next to give the useless prick a nice flat track eh?

                                      Cos if we don’t make huge improvements in our accuracy and discipline, particularly at the breakdown, then Fozzie may as well pick me at 10

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                                      @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                      @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                      A flat track bully

                                      Well let’s hope our forwards turn up this week and next to give the useless prick a nice flat track eh?

                                      Cos if we don’t make huge improvements in our accuracy and discipline, particularly at the breakdown, then Fozzie may as well pick me at 10

                                      This week is easy

                                      In the QF if the forwards play well it may still a draw between the packs, or we may get edged. Thats when having a mentally weak ten is a concern

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                                        Laws and refs are too influential. How many games without a card in this cup?

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          Laws and refs are too influential. How many games without a card in this cup?

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                                          @nzzp the 'biggest' game of the cup so far didnt have any cards, so thats a plus.

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