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Hurricanes 2024

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    foobaNZ
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    McClutchie is unlucky, you'd have to think if Morgan wasn't under contract he'd have got a spot.

    Cameron with Godfrey or McClutchie on the pine is a lot more compelling.

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      McClutchie is unlucky, you'd have to think if Morgan wasn't under contract he'd have got a spot.

      Cameron with Godfrey or McClutchie on the pine is a lot more compelling.

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      @foobaNZ I'd say Godfrey will be on the pine covering 10/15 anyway.

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        #370

        Post squad thoughts on the Canes strongest 23 I would actually go with the following:

        1. T Mafileo
        2. A Aumua
        3. T Lomax
        4. C Delany
        5. J Sangster
        6. T Howden / B Shields
        7. D Kirifi
        8. D Flanders
        9. C Roigard
        10. B Cameron
        11. K Naholo
        12. J Barrett
        13. B Proctor
        14. B Sullivan
        15. R Love
        16. J O'Reilly
        17. X Numia
        18. S Lauaki
        19. I Walker-Leawere
        20. P Lakai
        21. T Perenara
        22. H Godfrey
        23. R Higgins
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          I'm not too optimistic we'll see McClutchie in Super Rugby again. I don't expect him to be signed by another squad (unless it's the Force), so he'll now probably go overseas. :disappointed_face:

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            I have this feeling Bird and Prinsep maybe at the Crusaders.
            Bird would be an ok pick up but Prinsep I will hate Penny straight away if we have

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            • ChrisC Chris

              I have this feeling Bird and Prinsep maybe at the Crusaders.
              Bird would be an ok pick up but Prinsep I will hate Penny straight away if we have

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              @Chris who would they be in replace of? I can't see Prinsep getting a contract, has he even played?

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                @Stargazer The annoying thing about this squad is the amount of locks we've signed. We could have signed one less lock and signed up McClutchie instead. Just seems so odd.

                I wonder who's in the wider squad? Maybe he's in there potentially with a promise that he will have a full contract in 2025.

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                  Bird would take Dunshea spot
                  Prinsep would take Havilis

                  Cahill will probably replace Whitelock

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    Bird would take Dunshea spot
                    Prinsep would take Havilis

                    Cahill will probably replace Whitelock

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                    @Chris makes sense.

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                      Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                        #378

                        @Tim Sullivan played wing for the AB XVs and went well there. He’ll be more effective than the bus who was well out of his prime. Also Moorby isn’t a bad option on the right and Naholo will want to nail down that 11 jersey for the Canes after playing well last season. I’m picking the Canes to make the semis, and I’m hoping we can make it to the big dance but it will depend which players can stay fit.

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                          The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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                            The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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                            @Canes4life Was surprised not to see Jordi Viljoen in the squad. Surely he's a better option that Judd??

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                              Looks weaker than this year.

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                                https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-2024-dhl-super-rugby-pacific-squad-named

                                FORWARDS

                                Props

                                Siale Lauaki – Wellington

                                Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man

                                Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty

                                Xavier Numia – Wellington

                                Pouri Rakete-Stones – Hawke’s Bay

                                Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                                Hookers

                                Asafo Aumua – Wellington

                                Jacob Devery – Hawke’s Bay

                                James O’Reilly – Wellington

                                Locks

                                Caleb Delany – Wellington

                                Ben Grant – North Harbour

                                Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty

                                Josh Taula – Manawatū

                                James Tucker – Waikato

                                Isaia Walker-Leawere – Hawke’s Bay

                                Loose Forwards

                                Devan Flanders – Hawke’s Bay

                                TK Howden – Manawatū

                                Brayden Iose – Manawatū

                                Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington

                                Peter Lakai – Wellington

                                Brad Shields – Wellington

                                BACKS

                                Halfbacks

                                Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty

                                TJ Perenara – Wellington

                                Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                                Five-eighths

                                Brett Cameron – Manawatū

                                Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                                Midfield

                                Jordie Barrett – Taranaki

                                Riley Higgins – Wellington

                                Billy Proctor – Wellington

                                Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato

                                Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                                Outside Backs

                                Harry Godfrey – Hawke’s Bay

                                Ruben Love – Wellington

                                Josh Moorby – Northland

                                Kini Naholo – Taranaki

                                Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury

                                Salesi Rayasi – Auckland

                                Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                                @Yeetyaah

                                If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

                                My biggest concern is 1st 5.

                                But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

                                2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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                                  @Yeetyaah

                                  If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

                                  My biggest concern is 1st 5.

                                  But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

                                  2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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                                  #383

                                  @Winger the expectation should be to compete for the title but it will be up to the likes of Roigard, Cameron, Barrett and Love (as key game drivers) to put us in the right areas of the park. They failed to do that against the Brumbies when it counted for the last two seasons, so that should be a key work on.

                                  As per usual we will also need a good forwards coach to get the best out of our pack so our backs can do their thing. Guys pushing for AB selection like Mafileo, Numia, Aumua, Delany, Sangster, Howden and Flanders will all be after big campaigns so it's exciting, let's hope they stand up.

                                  We've got quite a few players in their third/fourth season at the Canes so it should be the coming of age for a lot of them.

                                  Add in the input of young up and coming players like Lakai, Godfrey, Higgins and Lauaki and there is a lot to like about this squad.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                                    @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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                                      @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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                                      @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                                      I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                                        @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                                        I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                                        #386

                                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                        @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                                        I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

                                        I hope it doesn't happen

                                        But Barrett, Higgins and Proctor could be an excellent combo. With PUJ / Sullivan as a backup.

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                                          2023 was a topsy turvy year and it ultimately ended in disappointment after the Canes looked like they were getting a roll on. Despite losing Dane Coles and Ardie Savea for next year's campaign, the Hurricanes, with a maturing side will look to take that momentum into next season.

                                          Looking ahead to 2024, we've got a new coach in Clark Laidlaw which should bring plenty of fresh thinking into the side and we also have Brad Shields coming back in which should offset some of that experience lost.

                                          The following roster has been formulated thus far:

                                          Signed players:

                                          Props:
                                          T Lomax
                                          X Numia
                                          S Lauaki

                                          Hookers:
                                          A Aumua

                                          Locks:
                                          I Walker-Leawere

                                          Loose Forwards:
                                          D Flanders
                                          D Kirifi
                                          P Lakai
                                          B Shields

                                          Halfbacks:
                                          None

                                          First Fives:
                                          A Morgan

                                          Midfield:
                                          B Sullivan
                                          B Proctor
                                          R Higgins
                                          J Barrett

                                          Outside Backs:
                                          H Godfrey
                                          J Moorby
                                          R Love

                                          Confirmed as leaving:

                                          Hookers:
                                          D Coles

                                          Loose forwards:
                                          A Savea (Japan for 2024, back in 2025)

                                          Unknown contract status:

                                          Props:
                                          P Rakete-Stones
                                          T Mafileo
                                          O Franks
                                          P Tosi

                                          Hookers:
                                          J Devery

                                          Locks:
                                          J Sangster
                                          J Blackwell
                                          D Bird

                                          Loose Forwards:
                                          T Howden
                                          R Prinsep
                                          C Delany
                                          B Iose

                                          First Fives:
                                          B Cameron

                                          Midfielders:
                                          P Umaga-Jensen

                                          Outside Backs:
                                          S Rayasi
                                          K Naholo
                                          J Savea
                                          D Sinkinson

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                                          @Canes4life

                                          FORWARDS

                                          Props
                                          Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                                          Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                                          Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                                          Xavier Numia – Wellington
                                          Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                                          Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                                          Hookers
                                          Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                                          Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                                          James O’Reilly – Wellington

                                          Locks
                                          Caleb Delany – Wellington
                                          Ben Grant – North Harbour
                                          Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                                          Josh Taula – Manawatū
                                          James Tucker – Waikato
                                          Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                                          Loose Forwards
                                          Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                                          TK Howden – Manawatū
                                          Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                                          Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                                          Peter Lakai – Wellington
                                          Brad Shields – Wellington

                                          BACKS

                                          Halfbacks
                                          Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                                          TJ Perenara – Wellington
                                          Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                                          Five-eighths
                                          Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                                          Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                                          Midfield
                                          Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                                          Riley Higgins – Wellington
                                          Billy Proctor – Wellington
                                          Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                                          Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                                          Outside Backs
                                          Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                                          Ruben Love – Wellington
                                          Josh Moorby – Northland
                                          Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                                          Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                                          Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                                          Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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