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Hurricanes 2024

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    I'm not too optimistic we'll see McClutchie in Super Rugby again. I don't expect him to be signed by another squad (unless it's the Force), so he'll now probably go overseas. :disappointed_face:

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      I have this feeling Bird and Prinsep maybe at the Crusaders.
      Bird would be an ok pick up but Prinsep I will hate Penny straight away if we have

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        I have this feeling Bird and Prinsep maybe at the Crusaders.
        Bird would be an ok pick up but Prinsep I will hate Penny straight away if we have

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        @Chris who would they be in replace of? I can't see Prinsep getting a contract, has he even played?

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          @Stargazer The annoying thing about this squad is the amount of locks we've signed. We could have signed one less lock and signed up McClutchie instead. Just seems so odd.

          I wonder who's in the wider squad? Maybe he's in there potentially with a promise that he will have a full contract in 2025.

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            #375

            Bird would take Dunshea spot
            Prinsep would take Havilis

            Cahill will probably replace Whitelock

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            • ChrisC Chris

              Bird would take Dunshea spot
              Prinsep would take Havilis

              Cahill will probably replace Whitelock

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              @Chris makes sense.

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                Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                  Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                  #378

                  @Tim Sullivan played wing for the AB XVs and went well there. He’ll be more effective than the bus who was well out of his prime. Also Moorby isn’t a bad option on the right and Naholo will want to nail down that 11 jersey for the Canes after playing well last season. I’m picking the Canes to make the semis, and I’m hoping we can make it to the big dance but it will depend which players can stay fit.

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                    #379

                    The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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                      The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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                      @Canes4life Was surprised not to see Jordi Viljoen in the squad. Surely he's a better option that Judd??

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                        Looks weaker than this year.

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                        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                          https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-2024-dhl-super-rugby-pacific-squad-named

                          FORWARDS

                          Props

                          Siale Lauaki – Wellington

                          Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man

                          Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty

                          Xavier Numia – Wellington

                          Pouri Rakete-Stones – Hawke’s Bay

                          Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                          Hookers

                          Asafo Aumua – Wellington

                          Jacob Devery – Hawke’s Bay

                          James O’Reilly – Wellington

                          Locks

                          Caleb Delany – Wellington

                          Ben Grant – North Harbour

                          Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty

                          Josh Taula – Manawatū

                          James Tucker – Waikato

                          Isaia Walker-Leawere – Hawke’s Bay

                          Loose Forwards

                          Devan Flanders – Hawke’s Bay

                          TK Howden – Manawatū

                          Brayden Iose – Manawatū

                          Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington

                          Peter Lakai – Wellington

                          Brad Shields – Wellington

                          BACKS

                          Halfbacks

                          Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty

                          TJ Perenara – Wellington

                          Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                          Five-eighths

                          Brett Cameron – Manawatū

                          Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                          Midfield

                          Jordie Barrett – Taranaki

                          Riley Higgins – Wellington

                          Billy Proctor – Wellington

                          Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato

                          Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                          Outside Backs

                          Harry Godfrey – Hawke’s Bay

                          Ruben Love – Wellington

                          Josh Moorby – Northland

                          Kini Naholo – Taranaki

                          Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury

                          Salesi Rayasi – Auckland

                          Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                          #382

                          @Yeetyaah

                          If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

                          My biggest concern is 1st 5.

                          But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

                          2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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                            @Yeetyaah

                            If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

                            My biggest concern is 1st 5.

                            But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

                            2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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                            #383

                            @Winger the expectation should be to compete for the title but it will be up to the likes of Roigard, Cameron, Barrett and Love (as key game drivers) to put us in the right areas of the park. They failed to do that against the Brumbies when it counted for the last two seasons, so that should be a key work on.

                            As per usual we will also need a good forwards coach to get the best out of our pack so our backs can do their thing. Guys pushing for AB selection like Mafileo, Numia, Aumua, Delany, Sangster, Howden and Flanders will all be after big campaigns so it's exciting, let's hope they stand up.

                            We've got quite a few players in their third/fourth season at the Canes so it should be the coming of age for a lot of them.

                            Add in the input of young up and coming players like Lakai, Godfrey, Higgins and Lauaki and there is a lot to like about this squad.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                              @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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                                @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                                I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                                  @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                                  I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                  @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                                  I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

                                  I hope it doesn't happen

                                  But Barrett, Higgins and Proctor could be an excellent combo. With PUJ / Sullivan as a backup.

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                                    2023 was a topsy turvy year and it ultimately ended in disappointment after the Canes looked like they were getting a roll on. Despite losing Dane Coles and Ardie Savea for next year's campaign, the Hurricanes, with a maturing side will look to take that momentum into next season.

                                    Looking ahead to 2024, we've got a new coach in Clark Laidlaw which should bring plenty of fresh thinking into the side and we also have Brad Shields coming back in which should offset some of that experience lost.

                                    The following roster has been formulated thus far:

                                    Signed players:

                                    Props:
                                    T Lomax
                                    X Numia
                                    S Lauaki

                                    Hookers:
                                    A Aumua

                                    Locks:
                                    I Walker-Leawere

                                    Loose Forwards:
                                    D Flanders
                                    D Kirifi
                                    P Lakai
                                    B Shields

                                    Halfbacks:
                                    None

                                    First Fives:
                                    A Morgan

                                    Midfield:
                                    B Sullivan
                                    B Proctor
                                    R Higgins
                                    J Barrett

                                    Outside Backs:
                                    H Godfrey
                                    J Moorby
                                    R Love

                                    Confirmed as leaving:

                                    Hookers:
                                    D Coles

                                    Loose forwards:
                                    A Savea (Japan for 2024, back in 2025)

                                    Unknown contract status:

                                    Props:
                                    P Rakete-Stones
                                    T Mafileo
                                    O Franks
                                    P Tosi

                                    Hookers:
                                    J Devery

                                    Locks:
                                    J Sangster
                                    J Blackwell
                                    D Bird

                                    Loose Forwards:
                                    T Howden
                                    R Prinsep
                                    C Delany
                                    B Iose

                                    First Fives:
                                    B Cameron

                                    Midfielders:
                                    P Umaga-Jensen

                                    Outside Backs:
                                    S Rayasi
                                    K Naholo
                                    J Savea
                                    D Sinkinson

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                                    @Canes4life

                                    FORWARDS

                                    Props
                                    Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                                    Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                                    Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                                    Xavier Numia – Wellington
                                    Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                                    Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                                    Hookers
                                    Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                                    Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                                    James O’Reilly – Wellington

                                    Locks
                                    Caleb Delany – Wellington
                                    Ben Grant – North Harbour
                                    Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                                    Josh Taula – Manawatū
                                    James Tucker – Waikato
                                    Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                                    Loose Forwards
                                    Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                                    TK Howden – Manawatū
                                    Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                                    Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                                    Peter Lakai – Wellington
                                    Brad Shields – Wellington

                                    BACKS

                                    Halfbacks
                                    Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                                    TJ Perenara – Wellington
                                    Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                                    Five-eighths
                                    Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                                    Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                                    Midfield
                                    Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                                    Riley Higgins – Wellington
                                    Billy Proctor – Wellington
                                    Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                                    Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                                    Outside Backs
                                    Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                                    Ruben Love – Wellington
                                    Josh Moorby – Northland
                                    Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                                    Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                                    Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                                    Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                                      @Canes4life

                                      FORWARDS

                                      Props
                                      Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                                      Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                                      Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                                      Xavier Numia – Wellington
                                      Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                                      Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                                      Hookers
                                      Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                                      Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                                      James O’Reilly – Wellington

                                      Locks
                                      Caleb Delany – Wellington
                                      Ben Grant – North Harbour
                                      Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                                      Josh Taula – Manawatū
                                      James Tucker – Waikato
                                      Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                                      Loose Forwards
                                      Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                                      TK Howden – Manawatū
                                      Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                                      Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                                      Peter Lakai – Wellington
                                      Brad Shields – Wellington

                                      BACKS

                                      Halfbacks
                                      Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                                      TJ Perenara – Wellington
                                      Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                                      Five-eighths
                                      Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                                      Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                                      Midfield
                                      Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                                      Riley Higgins – Wellington
                                      Billy Proctor – Wellington
                                      Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                                      Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                                      Outside Backs
                                      Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                                      Ruben Love – Wellington
                                      Josh Moorby – Northland
                                      Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                                      Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                                      Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                                      Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                                      @Winger ??

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                                        @Tim said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                        Savea big loss

                                        On the scales. Not on impact.

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                                          @Tim said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                          Savea big loss

                                          On the scales. Not on impact.

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                                          @KiwiMurph I think he was meaning ASav, not JSav.

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