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Hurricanes 2024

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    Canes4life
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    The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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      The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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      @Canes4life Was surprised not to see Jordi Viljoen in the squad. Surely he's a better option that Judd??

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        Looks weaker than this year.

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        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

          https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-2024-dhl-super-rugby-pacific-squad-named

          FORWARDS

          Props

          Siale Lauaki – Wellington

          Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man

          Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty

          Xavier Numia – Wellington

          Pouri Rakete-Stones – Hawke’s Bay

          Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

          Hookers

          Asafo Aumua – Wellington

          Jacob Devery – Hawke’s Bay

          James O’Reilly – Wellington

          Locks

          Caleb Delany – Wellington

          Ben Grant – North Harbour

          Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty

          Josh Taula – Manawatū

          James Tucker – Waikato

          Isaia Walker-Leawere – Hawke’s Bay

          Loose Forwards

          Devan Flanders – Hawke’s Bay

          TK Howden – Manawatū

          Brayden Iose – Manawatū

          Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington

          Peter Lakai – Wellington

          Brad Shields – Wellington

          BACKS

          Halfbacks

          Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty

          TJ Perenara – Wellington

          Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

          Five-eighths

          Brett Cameron – Manawatū

          Aidan Morgan – Wellington

          Midfield

          Jordie Barrett – Taranaki

          Riley Higgins – Wellington

          Billy Proctor – Wellington

          Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato

          Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

          Outside Backs

          Harry Godfrey – Hawke’s Bay

          Ruben Love – Wellington

          Josh Moorby – Northland

          Kini Naholo – Taranaki

          Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury

          Salesi Rayasi – Auckland

          Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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          Winger
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          @Yeetyaah

          If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

          My biggest concern is 1st 5.

          But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

          2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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          • WingerW Winger

            @Yeetyaah

            If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

            My biggest concern is 1st 5.

            But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

            2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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            #383

            @Winger the expectation should be to compete for the title but it will be up to the likes of Roigard, Cameron, Barrett and Love (as key game drivers) to put us in the right areas of the park. They failed to do that against the Brumbies when it counted for the last two seasons, so that should be a key work on.

            As per usual we will also need a good forwards coach to get the best out of our pack so our backs can do their thing. Guys pushing for AB selection like Mafileo, Numia, Aumua, Delany, Sangster, Howden and Flanders will all be after big campaigns so it's exciting, let's hope they stand up.

            We've got quite a few players in their third/fourth season at the Canes so it should be the coming of age for a lot of them.

            Add in the input of young up and coming players like Lakai, Godfrey, Higgins and Lauaki and there is a lot to like about this squad.

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            • TimT Tim

              Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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              @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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              • sparkyS sparky

                @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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                #385

                @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                  I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                  #386

                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                  @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                  I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

                  I hope it doesn't happen

                  But Barrett, Higgins and Proctor could be an excellent combo. With PUJ / Sullivan as a backup.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    2023 was a topsy turvy year and it ultimately ended in disappointment after the Canes looked like they were getting a roll on. Despite losing Dane Coles and Ardie Savea for next year's campaign, the Hurricanes, with a maturing side will look to take that momentum into next season.

                    Looking ahead to 2024, we've got a new coach in Clark Laidlaw which should bring plenty of fresh thinking into the side and we also have Brad Shields coming back in which should offset some of that experience lost.

                    The following roster has been formulated thus far:

                    Signed players:

                    Props:
                    T Lomax
                    X Numia
                    S Lauaki

                    Hookers:
                    A Aumua

                    Locks:
                    I Walker-Leawere

                    Loose Forwards:
                    D Flanders
                    D Kirifi
                    P Lakai
                    B Shields

                    Halfbacks:
                    None

                    First Fives:
                    A Morgan

                    Midfield:
                    B Sullivan
                    B Proctor
                    R Higgins
                    J Barrett

                    Outside Backs:
                    H Godfrey
                    J Moorby
                    R Love

                    Confirmed as leaving:

                    Hookers:
                    D Coles

                    Loose forwards:
                    A Savea (Japan for 2024, back in 2025)

                    Unknown contract status:

                    Props:
                    P Rakete-Stones
                    T Mafileo
                    O Franks
                    P Tosi

                    Hookers:
                    J Devery

                    Locks:
                    J Sangster
                    J Blackwell
                    D Bird

                    Loose Forwards:
                    T Howden
                    R Prinsep
                    C Delany
                    B Iose

                    First Fives:
                    B Cameron

                    Midfielders:
                    P Umaga-Jensen

                    Outside Backs:
                    S Rayasi
                    K Naholo
                    J Savea
                    D Sinkinson

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                    #387

                    @Canes4life

                    FORWARDS

                    Props
                    Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                    Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                    Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                    Xavier Numia – Wellington
                    Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                    Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                    Hookers
                    Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                    Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                    James O’Reilly – Wellington

                    Locks
                    Caleb Delany – Wellington
                    Ben Grant – North Harbour
                    Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                    Josh Taula – Manawatū
                    James Tucker – Waikato
                    Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                    Loose Forwards
                    Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                    TK Howden – Manawatū
                    Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                    Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                    Peter Lakai – Wellington
                    Brad Shields – Wellington

                    BACKS

                    Halfbacks
                    Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                    TJ Perenara – Wellington
                    Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                    Five-eighths
                    Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                    Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                    Midfield
                    Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                    Riley Higgins – Wellington
                    Billy Proctor – Wellington
                    Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                    Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                    Outside Backs
                    Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                    Ruben Love – Wellington
                    Josh Moorby – Northland
                    Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                    Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                    Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                    Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                    • WingerW Winger

                      @Canes4life

                      FORWARDS

                      Props
                      Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                      Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                      Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                      Xavier Numia – Wellington
                      Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                      Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                      Hookers
                      Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                      Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                      James O’Reilly – Wellington

                      Locks
                      Caleb Delany – Wellington
                      Ben Grant – North Harbour
                      Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                      Josh Taula – Manawatū
                      James Tucker – Waikato
                      Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                      Loose Forwards
                      Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                      TK Howden – Manawatū
                      Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                      Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                      Peter Lakai – Wellington
                      Brad Shields – Wellington

                      BACKS

                      Halfbacks
                      Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                      TJ Perenara – Wellington
                      Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                      Five-eighths
                      Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                      Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                      Midfield
                      Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                      Riley Higgins – Wellington
                      Billy Proctor – Wellington
                      Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                      Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                      Outside Backs
                      Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                      Ruben Love – Wellington
                      Josh Moorby – Northland
                      Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                      Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                      Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                      Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #388

                      @Winger ??

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                        #389

                        @Tim said in Hurricanes 2024:

                        Savea big loss

                        On the scales. Not on impact.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          @Tim said in Hurricanes 2024:

                          Savea big loss

                          On the scales. Not on impact.

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                          Canes4life
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                          #390

                          @KiwiMurph I think he was meaning ASav, not JSav.

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @KiwiMurph I think he was meaning ASav, not JSav.

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                            @Canes4life Good point

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @Winger ??

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                              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                              @Winger ??

                              I want the team linked to your first post

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                                Seems the Canes are hogging too many good midfielders, that is a lot of talent there that could be sitting on the bench or not at all.

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                                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                  @Winger ??

                                  I want the team linked to your first post

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                                  @Winger sorry what post is that?

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                                    @Winger sorry what post is that?

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                                    @Canes4life The first post of this entire thread.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @Canes4life The first post of this entire thread.

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                                      @Stargazer oh righto.

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                                        Ben Grant, an Aussie who did not set the world on fire during the NPC, selected but Dom Bird left outside the squad, that's weird.

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                                          Ben Grant, an Aussie who did not set the world on fire during the NPC, selected but Dom Bird left outside the squad, that's weird.

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                                          Blunders
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                                          @cgrant agreed that is strange. Bird is over 2m tall and probably super level quality. 32 so not very old but more on the experienced end. They should learn from the Boks who do not dispose of old players but rather incorporate them to help build the culture and mentor younger players.

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