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Hurricanes 2024

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    Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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      Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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      #378

      @Tim Sullivan played wing for the AB XVs and went well there. He’ll be more effective than the bus who was well out of his prime. Also Moorby isn’t a bad option on the right and Naholo will want to nail down that 11 jersey for the Canes after playing well last season. I’m picking the Canes to make the semis, and I’m hoping we can make it to the big dance but it will depend which players can stay fit.

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        The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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          The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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          @Canes4life Was surprised not to see Jordi Viljoen in the squad. Surely he's a better option that Judd??

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            Looks weaker than this year.

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            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

              https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-2024-dhl-super-rugby-pacific-squad-named

              FORWARDS

              Props

              Siale Lauaki – Wellington

              Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man

              Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty

              Xavier Numia – Wellington

              Pouri Rakete-Stones – Hawke’s Bay

              Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

              Hookers

              Asafo Aumua – Wellington

              Jacob Devery – Hawke’s Bay

              James O’Reilly – Wellington

              Locks

              Caleb Delany – Wellington

              Ben Grant – North Harbour

              Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty

              Josh Taula – Manawatū

              James Tucker – Waikato

              Isaia Walker-Leawere – Hawke’s Bay

              Loose Forwards

              Devan Flanders – Hawke’s Bay

              TK Howden – Manawatū

              Brayden Iose – Manawatū

              Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington

              Peter Lakai – Wellington

              Brad Shields – Wellington

              BACKS

              Halfbacks

              Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty

              TJ Perenara – Wellington

              Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

              Five-eighths

              Brett Cameron – Manawatū

              Aidan Morgan – Wellington

              Midfield

              Jordie Barrett – Taranaki

              Riley Higgins – Wellington

              Billy Proctor – Wellington

              Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato

              Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

              Outside Backs

              Harry Godfrey – Hawke’s Bay

              Ruben Love – Wellington

              Josh Moorby – Northland

              Kini Naholo – Taranaki

              Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury

              Salesi Rayasi – Auckland

              Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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              @Yeetyaah

              If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

              My biggest concern is 1st 5.

              But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

              2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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              • WingerW Winger

                @Yeetyaah

                If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

                My biggest concern is 1st 5.

                But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

                2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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                #383

                @Winger the expectation should be to compete for the title but it will be up to the likes of Roigard, Cameron, Barrett and Love (as key game drivers) to put us in the right areas of the park. They failed to do that against the Brumbies when it counted for the last two seasons, so that should be a key work on.

                As per usual we will also need a good forwards coach to get the best out of our pack so our backs can do their thing. Guys pushing for AB selection like Mafileo, Numia, Aumua, Delany, Sangster, Howden and Flanders will all be after big campaigns so it's exciting, let's hope they stand up.

                We've got quite a few players in their third/fourth season at the Canes so it should be the coming of age for a lot of them.

                Add in the input of young up and coming players like Lakai, Godfrey, Higgins and Lauaki and there is a lot to like about this squad.

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                • TimT Tim

                  Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                  @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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                    #385

                    @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                    I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                      I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                      #386

                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                      @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                      I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

                      I hope it doesn't happen

                      But Barrett, Higgins and Proctor could be an excellent combo. With PUJ / Sullivan as a backup.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        2023 was a topsy turvy year and it ultimately ended in disappointment after the Canes looked like they were getting a roll on. Despite losing Dane Coles and Ardie Savea for next year's campaign, the Hurricanes, with a maturing side will look to take that momentum into next season.

                        Looking ahead to 2024, we've got a new coach in Clark Laidlaw which should bring plenty of fresh thinking into the side and we also have Brad Shields coming back in which should offset some of that experience lost.

                        The following roster has been formulated thus far:

                        Signed players:

                        Props:
                        T Lomax
                        X Numia
                        S Lauaki

                        Hookers:
                        A Aumua

                        Locks:
                        I Walker-Leawere

                        Loose Forwards:
                        D Flanders
                        D Kirifi
                        P Lakai
                        B Shields

                        Halfbacks:
                        None

                        First Fives:
                        A Morgan

                        Midfield:
                        B Sullivan
                        B Proctor
                        R Higgins
                        J Barrett

                        Outside Backs:
                        H Godfrey
                        J Moorby
                        R Love

                        Confirmed as leaving:

                        Hookers:
                        D Coles

                        Loose forwards:
                        A Savea (Japan for 2024, back in 2025)

                        Unknown contract status:

                        Props:
                        P Rakete-Stones
                        T Mafileo
                        O Franks
                        P Tosi

                        Hookers:
                        J Devery

                        Locks:
                        J Sangster
                        J Blackwell
                        D Bird

                        Loose Forwards:
                        T Howden
                        R Prinsep
                        C Delany
                        B Iose

                        First Fives:
                        B Cameron

                        Midfielders:
                        P Umaga-Jensen

                        Outside Backs:
                        S Rayasi
                        K Naholo
                        J Savea
                        D Sinkinson

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                        @Canes4life

                        FORWARDS

                        Props
                        Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                        Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                        Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                        Xavier Numia – Wellington
                        Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                        Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                        Hookers
                        Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                        Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                        James O’Reilly – Wellington

                        Locks
                        Caleb Delany – Wellington
                        Ben Grant – North Harbour
                        Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                        Josh Taula – Manawatū
                        James Tucker – Waikato
                        Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                        Loose Forwards
                        Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                        TK Howden – Manawatū
                        Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                        Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                        Peter Lakai – Wellington
                        Brad Shields – Wellington

                        BACKS

                        Halfbacks
                        Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                        TJ Perenara – Wellington
                        Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                        Five-eighths
                        Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                        Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                        Midfield
                        Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                        Riley Higgins – Wellington
                        Billy Proctor – Wellington
                        Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                        Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                        Outside Backs
                        Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                        Ruben Love – Wellington
                        Josh Moorby – Northland
                        Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                        Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                        Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                        Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                          @Canes4life

                          FORWARDS

                          Props
                          Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                          Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                          Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                          Xavier Numia – Wellington
                          Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                          Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                          Hookers
                          Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                          Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                          James O’Reilly – Wellington

                          Locks
                          Caleb Delany – Wellington
                          Ben Grant – North Harbour
                          Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                          Josh Taula – Manawatū
                          James Tucker – Waikato
                          Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                          Loose Forwards
                          Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                          TK Howden – Manawatū
                          Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                          Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                          Peter Lakai – Wellington
                          Brad Shields – Wellington

                          BACKS

                          Halfbacks
                          Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                          TJ Perenara – Wellington
                          Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                          Five-eighths
                          Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                          Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                          Midfield
                          Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                          Riley Higgins – Wellington
                          Billy Proctor – Wellington
                          Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                          Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                          Outside Backs
                          Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                          Ruben Love – Wellington
                          Josh Moorby – Northland
                          Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                          Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                          Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                          Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                          Canes4life
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                          @Winger ??

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                            @Tim said in Hurricanes 2024:

                            Savea big loss

                            On the scales. Not on impact.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Tim said in Hurricanes 2024:

                              Savea big loss

                              On the scales. Not on impact.

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                              @KiwiMurph I think he was meaning ASav, not JSav.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @KiwiMurph I think he was meaning ASav, not JSav.

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                                @Canes4life Good point

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @Winger ??

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                                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                  @Winger ??

                                  I want the team linked to your first post

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                                    Seems the Canes are hogging too many good midfielders, that is a lot of talent there that could be sitting on the bench or not at all.

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                                    • WingerW Winger

                                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                      @Winger ??

                                      I want the team linked to your first post

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                                      @Winger sorry what post is that?

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                                        @Winger sorry what post is that?

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                                        @Canes4life The first post of this entire thread.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Canes4life The first post of this entire thread.

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                                          @Stargazer oh righto.

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