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Hurricanes 2024

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  • TimT Tim

    Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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    #378

    @Tim Sullivan played wing for the AB XVs and went well there. He’ll be more effective than the bus who was well out of his prime. Also Moorby isn’t a bad option on the right and Naholo will want to nail down that 11 jersey for the Canes after playing well last season. I’m picking the Canes to make the semis, and I’m hoping we can make it to the big dance but it will depend which players can stay fit.

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      The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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        The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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        @Canes4life Was surprised not to see Jordi Viljoen in the squad. Surely he's a better option that Judd??

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          Looks weaker than this year.

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          • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

            https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-2024-dhl-super-rugby-pacific-squad-named

            FORWARDS

            Props

            Siale Lauaki – Wellington

            Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man

            Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty

            Xavier Numia – Wellington

            Pouri Rakete-Stones – Hawke’s Bay

            Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

            Hookers

            Asafo Aumua – Wellington

            Jacob Devery – Hawke’s Bay

            James O’Reilly – Wellington

            Locks

            Caleb Delany – Wellington

            Ben Grant – North Harbour

            Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty

            Josh Taula – Manawatū

            James Tucker – Waikato

            Isaia Walker-Leawere – Hawke’s Bay

            Loose Forwards

            Devan Flanders – Hawke’s Bay

            TK Howden – Manawatū

            Brayden Iose – Manawatū

            Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington

            Peter Lakai – Wellington

            Brad Shields – Wellington

            BACKS

            Halfbacks

            Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty

            TJ Perenara – Wellington

            Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

            Five-eighths

            Brett Cameron – Manawatū

            Aidan Morgan – Wellington

            Midfield

            Jordie Barrett – Taranaki

            Riley Higgins – Wellington

            Billy Proctor – Wellington

            Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato

            Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

            Outside Backs

            Harry Godfrey – Hawke’s Bay

            Ruben Love – Wellington

            Josh Moorby – Northland

            Kini Naholo – Taranaki

            Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury

            Salesi Rayasi – Auckland

            Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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            @Yeetyaah

            If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

            My biggest concern is 1st 5.

            But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

            2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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            • WingerW Winger

              @Yeetyaah

              If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

              My biggest concern is 1st 5.

              But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

              2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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              @Winger the expectation should be to compete for the title but it will be up to the likes of Roigard, Cameron, Barrett and Love (as key game drivers) to put us in the right areas of the park. They failed to do that against the Brumbies when it counted for the last two seasons, so that should be a key work on.

              As per usual we will also need a good forwards coach to get the best out of our pack so our backs can do their thing. Guys pushing for AB selection like Mafileo, Numia, Aumua, Delany, Sangster, Howden and Flanders will all be after big campaigns so it's exciting, let's hope they stand up.

              We've got quite a few players in their third/fourth season at the Canes so it should be the coming of age for a lot of them.

              Add in the input of young up and coming players like Lakai, Godfrey, Higgins and Lauaki and there is a lot to like about this squad.

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              • TimT Tim

                Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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                  @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                  I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                    @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                    I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                    @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                    I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

                    I hope it doesn't happen

                    But Barrett, Higgins and Proctor could be an excellent combo. With PUJ / Sullivan as a backup.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      2023 was a topsy turvy year and it ultimately ended in disappointment after the Canes looked like they were getting a roll on. Despite losing Dane Coles and Ardie Savea for next year's campaign, the Hurricanes, with a maturing side will look to take that momentum into next season.

                      Looking ahead to 2024, we've got a new coach in Clark Laidlaw which should bring plenty of fresh thinking into the side and we also have Brad Shields coming back in which should offset some of that experience lost.

                      The following roster has been formulated thus far:

                      Signed players:

                      Props:
                      T Lomax
                      X Numia
                      S Lauaki

                      Hookers:
                      A Aumua

                      Locks:
                      I Walker-Leawere

                      Loose Forwards:
                      D Flanders
                      D Kirifi
                      P Lakai
                      B Shields

                      Halfbacks:
                      None

                      First Fives:
                      A Morgan

                      Midfield:
                      B Sullivan
                      B Proctor
                      R Higgins
                      J Barrett

                      Outside Backs:
                      H Godfrey
                      J Moorby
                      R Love

                      Confirmed as leaving:

                      Hookers:
                      D Coles

                      Loose forwards:
                      A Savea (Japan for 2024, back in 2025)

                      Unknown contract status:

                      Props:
                      P Rakete-Stones
                      T Mafileo
                      O Franks
                      P Tosi

                      Hookers:
                      J Devery

                      Locks:
                      J Sangster
                      J Blackwell
                      D Bird

                      Loose Forwards:
                      T Howden
                      R Prinsep
                      C Delany
                      B Iose

                      First Fives:
                      B Cameron

                      Midfielders:
                      P Umaga-Jensen

                      Outside Backs:
                      S Rayasi
                      K Naholo
                      J Savea
                      D Sinkinson

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                      @Canes4life

                      FORWARDS

                      Props
                      Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                      Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                      Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                      Xavier Numia – Wellington
                      Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                      Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                      Hookers
                      Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                      Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                      James O’Reilly – Wellington

                      Locks
                      Caleb Delany – Wellington
                      Ben Grant – North Harbour
                      Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                      Josh Taula – Manawatū
                      James Tucker – Waikato
                      Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                      Loose Forwards
                      Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                      TK Howden – Manawatū
                      Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                      Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                      Peter Lakai – Wellington
                      Brad Shields – Wellington

                      BACKS

                      Halfbacks
                      Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                      TJ Perenara – Wellington
                      Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                      Five-eighths
                      Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                      Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                      Midfield
                      Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                      Riley Higgins – Wellington
                      Billy Proctor – Wellington
                      Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                      Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                      Outside Backs
                      Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                      Ruben Love – Wellington
                      Josh Moorby – Northland
                      Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                      Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                      Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                      Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                      • WingerW Winger

                        @Canes4life

                        FORWARDS

                        Props
                        Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                        Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                        Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                        Xavier Numia – Wellington
                        Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                        Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                        Hookers
                        Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                        Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                        James O’Reilly – Wellington

                        Locks
                        Caleb Delany – Wellington
                        Ben Grant – North Harbour
                        Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                        Josh Taula – Manawatū
                        James Tucker – Waikato
                        Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                        Loose Forwards
                        Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                        TK Howden – Manawatū
                        Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                        Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                        Peter Lakai – Wellington
                        Brad Shields – Wellington

                        BACKS

                        Halfbacks
                        Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                        TJ Perenara – Wellington
                        Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                        Five-eighths
                        Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                        Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                        Midfield
                        Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                        Riley Higgins – Wellington
                        Billy Proctor – Wellington
                        Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                        Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                        Outside Backs
                        Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                        Ruben Love – Wellington
                        Josh Moorby – Northland
                        Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                        Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                        Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                        Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                        @Winger ??

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                          @Tim said in Hurricanes 2024:

                          Savea big loss

                          On the scales. Not on impact.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @Tim said in Hurricanes 2024:

                            Savea big loss

                            On the scales. Not on impact.

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                            @KiwiMurph I think he was meaning ASav, not JSav.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @KiwiMurph I think he was meaning ASav, not JSav.

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                              @Canes4life Good point

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @Winger ??

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                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                @Winger ??

                                I want the team linked to your first post

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                                  Seems the Canes are hogging too many good midfielders, that is a lot of talent there that could be sitting on the bench or not at all.

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                                  • WingerW Winger

                                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                    @Winger ??

                                    I want the team linked to your first post

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                                    @Winger sorry what post is that?

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                                      @Winger sorry what post is that?

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                                      @Canes4life The first post of this entire thread.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @Canes4life The first post of this entire thread.

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                                        @Stargazer oh righto.

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                                          Ben Grant, an Aussie who did not set the world on fire during the NPC, selected but Dom Bird left outside the squad, that's weird.

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