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Hurricanes 2024

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    #370

    Post squad thoughts on the Canes strongest 23 I would actually go with the following:

    1. T Mafileo
    2. A Aumua
    3. T Lomax
    4. C Delany
    5. J Sangster
    6. T Howden / B Shields
    7. D Kirifi
    8. D Flanders
    9. C Roigard
    10. B Cameron
    11. K Naholo
    12. J Barrett
    13. B Proctor
    14. B Sullivan
    15. R Love
    16. J O'Reilly
    17. X Numia
    18. S Lauaki
    19. I Walker-Leawere
    20. P Lakai
    21. T Perenara
    22. H Godfrey
    23. R Higgins
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    • StargazerS Offline
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      I'm not too optimistic we'll see McClutchie in Super Rugby again. I don't expect him to be signed by another squad (unless it's the Force), so he'll now probably go overseas. :disappointed_face:

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        #372

        I have this feeling Bird and Prinsep maybe at the Crusaders.
        Bird would be an ok pick up but Prinsep I will hate Penny straight away if we have

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        • ChrisC Chris

          I have this feeling Bird and Prinsep maybe at the Crusaders.
          Bird would be an ok pick up but Prinsep I will hate Penny straight away if we have

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          Canes4life
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          #373

          @Chris who would they be in replace of? I can't see Prinsep getting a contract, has he even played?

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            #374

            @Stargazer The annoying thing about this squad is the amount of locks we've signed. We could have signed one less lock and signed up McClutchie instead. Just seems so odd.

            I wonder who's in the wider squad? Maybe he's in there potentially with a promise that he will have a full contract in 2025.

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              #375

              Bird would take Dunshea spot
              Prinsep would take Havilis

              Cahill will probably replace Whitelock

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              • ChrisC Chris

                Bird would take Dunshea spot
                Prinsep would take Havilis

                Cahill will probably replace Whitelock

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                @Chris makes sense.

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                • TimT Offline
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                  Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                    #378

                    @Tim Sullivan played wing for the AB XVs and went well there. He’ll be more effective than the bus who was well out of his prime. Also Moorby isn’t a bad option on the right and Naholo will want to nail down that 11 jersey for the Canes after playing well last season. I’m picking the Canes to make the semis, and I’m hoping we can make it to the big dance but it will depend which players can stay fit.

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                      #379

                      The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        The Hurricanes email they sent out has an extra member in the squad. They have Jordi Vijoen in there as a fourth halfback. Maybe TJ has still a bit of work to do on rehabbing that injury.

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                        #380

                        @Canes4life Was surprised not to see Jordi Viljoen in the squad. Surely he's a better option that Judd??

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                          #381

                          Looks weaker than this year.

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                          • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                            https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-2024-dhl-super-rugby-pacific-squad-named

                            FORWARDS

                            Props

                            Siale Lauaki – Wellington

                            Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man

                            Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty

                            Xavier Numia – Wellington

                            Pouri Rakete-Stones – Hawke’s Bay

                            Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                            Hookers

                            Asafo Aumua – Wellington

                            Jacob Devery – Hawke’s Bay

                            James O’Reilly – Wellington

                            Locks

                            Caleb Delany – Wellington

                            Ben Grant – North Harbour

                            Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty

                            Josh Taula – Manawatū

                            James Tucker – Waikato

                            Isaia Walker-Leawere – Hawke’s Bay

                            Loose Forwards

                            Devan Flanders – Hawke’s Bay

                            TK Howden – Manawatū

                            Brayden Iose – Manawatū

                            Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington

                            Peter Lakai – Wellington

                            Brad Shields – Wellington

                            BACKS

                            Halfbacks

                            Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty

                            TJ Perenara – Wellington

                            Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                            Five-eighths

                            Brett Cameron – Manawatū

                            Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                            Midfield

                            Jordie Barrett – Taranaki

                            Riley Higgins – Wellington

                            Billy Proctor – Wellington

                            Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato

                            Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                            Outside Backs

                            Harry Godfrey – Hawke’s Bay

                            Ruben Love – Wellington

                            Josh Moorby – Northland

                            Kini Naholo – Taranaki

                            Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury

                            Salesi Rayasi – Auckland

                            Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                            #382

                            @Yeetyaah

                            If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

                            My biggest concern is 1st 5.

                            But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

                            2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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                              @Yeetyaah

                              If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

                              My biggest concern is 1st 5.

                              But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

                              2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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                              #383

                              @Winger the expectation should be to compete for the title but it will be up to the likes of Roigard, Cameron, Barrett and Love (as key game drivers) to put us in the right areas of the park. They failed to do that against the Brumbies when it counted for the last two seasons, so that should be a key work on.

                              As per usual we will also need a good forwards coach to get the best out of our pack so our backs can do their thing. Guys pushing for AB selection like Mafileo, Numia, Aumua, Delany, Sangster, Howden and Flanders will all be after big campaigns so it's exciting, let's hope they stand up.

                              We've got quite a few players in their third/fourth season at the Canes so it should be the coming of age for a lot of them.

                              Add in the input of young up and coming players like Lakai, Godfrey, Higgins and Lauaki and there is a lot to like about this squad.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                                #384

                                @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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                                  @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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                                  #385

                                  @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                                  I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                                    @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                                    I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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                                    wrote on last edited by Winger
                                    #386

                                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                    @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

                                    I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

                                    I hope it doesn't happen

                                    But Barrett, Higgins and Proctor could be an excellent combo. With PUJ / Sullivan as a backup.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      2023 was a topsy turvy year and it ultimately ended in disappointment after the Canes looked like they were getting a roll on. Despite losing Dane Coles and Ardie Savea for next year's campaign, the Hurricanes, with a maturing side will look to take that momentum into next season.

                                      Looking ahead to 2024, we've got a new coach in Clark Laidlaw which should bring plenty of fresh thinking into the side and we also have Brad Shields coming back in which should offset some of that experience lost.

                                      The following roster has been formulated thus far:

                                      Signed players:

                                      Props:
                                      T Lomax
                                      X Numia
                                      S Lauaki

                                      Hookers:
                                      A Aumua

                                      Locks:
                                      I Walker-Leawere

                                      Loose Forwards:
                                      D Flanders
                                      D Kirifi
                                      P Lakai
                                      B Shields

                                      Halfbacks:
                                      None

                                      First Fives:
                                      A Morgan

                                      Midfield:
                                      B Sullivan
                                      B Proctor
                                      R Higgins
                                      J Barrett

                                      Outside Backs:
                                      H Godfrey
                                      J Moorby
                                      R Love

                                      Confirmed as leaving:

                                      Hookers:
                                      D Coles

                                      Loose forwards:
                                      A Savea (Japan for 2024, back in 2025)

                                      Unknown contract status:

                                      Props:
                                      P Rakete-Stones
                                      T Mafileo
                                      O Franks
                                      P Tosi

                                      Hookers:
                                      J Devery

                                      Locks:
                                      J Sangster
                                      J Blackwell
                                      D Bird

                                      Loose Forwards:
                                      T Howden
                                      R Prinsep
                                      C Delany
                                      B Iose

                                      First Fives:
                                      B Cameron

                                      Midfielders:
                                      P Umaga-Jensen

                                      Outside Backs:
                                      S Rayasi
                                      K Naholo
                                      J Savea
                                      D Sinkinson

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #387

                                      @Canes4life

                                      FORWARDS

                                      Props
                                      Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                                      Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                                      Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                                      Xavier Numia – Wellington
                                      Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                                      Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                                      Hookers
                                      Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                                      Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                                      James O’Reilly – Wellington

                                      Locks
                                      Caleb Delany – Wellington
                                      Ben Grant – North Harbour
                                      Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                                      Josh Taula – Manawatū
                                      James Tucker – Waikato
                                      Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                                      Loose Forwards
                                      Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                                      TK Howden – Manawatū
                                      Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                                      Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                                      Peter Lakai – Wellington
                                      Brad Shields – Wellington

                                      BACKS

                                      Halfbacks
                                      Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                                      TJ Perenara – Wellington
                                      Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                                      Five-eighths
                                      Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                                      Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                                      Midfield
                                      Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                                      Riley Higgins – Wellington
                                      Billy Proctor – Wellington
                                      Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                                      Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                                      Outside Backs
                                      Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                                      Ruben Love – Wellington
                                      Josh Moorby – Northland
                                      Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                                      Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                                      Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                                      Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                                      • WingerW Winger

                                        @Canes4life

                                        FORWARDS

                                        Props
                                        Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                                        Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                                        Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                                        Xavier Numia – Wellington
                                        Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                                        Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                                        Hookers
                                        Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                                        Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                                        James O’Reilly – Wellington

                                        Locks
                                        Caleb Delany – Wellington
                                        Ben Grant – North Harbour
                                        Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                                        Josh Taula – Manawatū
                                        James Tucker – Waikato
                                        Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                                        Loose Forwards
                                        Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                                        TK Howden – Manawatū
                                        Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                                        Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                                        Peter Lakai – Wellington
                                        Brad Shields – Wellington

                                        BACKS

                                        Halfbacks
                                        Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                                        TJ Perenara – Wellington
                                        Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                                        Five-eighths
                                        Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                                        Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                                        Midfield
                                        Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                                        Riley Higgins – Wellington
                                        Billy Proctor – Wellington
                                        Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                                        Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                                        Outside Backs
                                        Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                                        Ruben Love – Wellington
                                        Josh Moorby – Northland
                                        Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                                        Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                                        Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                                        Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                                        @Winger ??

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                                          @Tim said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                          Savea big loss

                                          On the scales. Not on impact.

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