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Name Your AB Team

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  • sparkyS sparky

    @Chris Going to be explosions not seen on the Fern since the days of the Mehrts/Spencer debate.

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    @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Chris Going to be explosions not seen on the Fern since the days of the Mehrts/Spencer debate.

    Those were the days even though I wasn’t on the fern then,I remember the debates all over the

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    • BonesB Bones

      @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

      @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

      Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

      Razor should just name the entire Blues squad, throw in a couple of Barretts and be done with it.

      By the looks of things you could throw in a couple of canes fans in the delighted category.

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      @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

      @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

      @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

      Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

      Razor should just name the entire Blues squad, throw in a couple of Barretts and be done with it.

      By the looks of things you could throw in a couple of canes fans in the delighted category.

      It’s hard to pinpoint which fans are the most rabid at the moment.

      I’m supposed to be on cooking tomorrow but I don’t want to miss the shitfight on here at 5.31pm so I might ask the girl if we can switch.

      Make sure you set the alarm and you’re up early so as not to miss the fun

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      • sparkyS sparky

        @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

        Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

        Hard to think of a time before when the NZ Super Rugby player of the season has been totally overlooked by the selectors. Not picking Hoskins Sotutu for the AB squad would be a genuine jaw-dropper.

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        @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

        Hard to think of a time before when the NZ Super Rugby player of the season has been totally overlooked by the selectors.

        Really?
        He has been named as NZ Super Rugby Player of the Year?

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        • FrankF Frank

          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

          I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

          The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

          Havili can play all three.
          Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
          I don't like it either.
          Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

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          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

          I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

          The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

          Havili can play all three.
          Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
          I don't like it either.
          Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

          Maybe Havili will be the token Crusader backline selection?

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Chris Going to be explosions not seen on the Fern since the days of the Mehrts/Spencer debate.

            Those were the days even though I wasn’t on the fern then,I remember the debates all over the

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              Razor will pick whoever he wants. He will want to win as soon as possible, if that doesn't happen he will get less understanding from the rugby public if he's seen to have picked his favourites and ignored form picks

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              • P pakman

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

                The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

                Havili can play all three.
                Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
                I don't like it either.
                Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

                Maybe Havili will be the token Crusader backline selection?

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                @pakman said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

                The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

                Havili can play all three.
                Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
                I don't like it either.
                Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

                Maybe Havili will be the token Crusader backline selection?

                I’d argue Jordie Barrett is far more of a utility and has done it at test level too ?

                Havilii wasn’t an adequate 10 at Super Level and as @Bones alluded to I can’t even remember him playing 15 it was so long ago.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                  Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                  Hard to think of a time before when the NZ Super Rugby player of the season has been totally overlooked by the selectors. Not picking Hoskins Sotutu for the AB squad would be a genuine jaw-dropper.

                  Got a list of the players of the year? That might make it easier to think of one.

                  Is there such a list ?

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                  @Chris Scott Barrett won it last year, Will Jordan won it the year before. I can't find a full list though.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @Chris Scott Barrett won it last year, Will Jordan won it the year before. I can't find a full list though.

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                    @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Chris Scott Barrett won it last year, Will Jordan won it the year before. I can't find a full list though.

                    it hasn’t been named yet for 2024 has it ?

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      @Chris Scott Barrett won it last year, Will Jordan won it the year before. I can't find a full list though.

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                      @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Chris Scott Barrett won it last year, Will Jordan won it the year before. I can't find a full list though.

                      It appears you also can't find the list for this year.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Chris Scott Barrett won it last year, Will Jordan won it the year before. I can't find a full list though.

                        it hasn’t been named yet for 2024 has it ?

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                        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Chris Scott Barrett won it last year, Will Jordan won it the year before. I can't find a full list though.

                        it hasn’t been named yet for 2024 has it ?

                        Have a feeling @sparky has been on a 24 hour bender since the blues won with the state of some of his posts.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Chris Scott Barrett won it last year, Will Jordan won it the year before. I can't find a full list though.

                          it hasn’t been named yet for 2024 has it ?

                          Have a feeling @sparky has been on a 24 hour bender since the blues won with the state of some of his posts.

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                          @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Chris Scott Barrett won it last year, Will Jordan won it the year before. I can't find a full list though.

                          it hasn’t been named yet for 2024 has it ?

                          Have a feeling @sparky has been on a 24 hour bender since the blues won with the state of some of his posts.

                          The good news for any Blues players who don’t make the ABs is that they can go and transform English Rugby instead.

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                          • C chchfanatic

                            Props:
                            de Groot
                            Williams
                            Tu'ungafasi
                            Lomax
                            Newell
                            Bower

                            Hookers:
                            Taylor
                            Aumua
                            Bell if no Taukieho

                            Locks:
                            Barrett CC
                            Tuipulotu
                            Vaa'i

                            Loose Forwards:
                            Papalii
                            Savea CC
                            Blackadder
                            Sititi
                            Finau
                            Cane

                            Halfbacks:
                            Christie
                            Perenara
                            Ratima

                            First Fives:
                            McKenzie
                            Plummer

                            Midfielders:
                            Barrett
                            Havili
                            Ioane
                            Lienert-Brown

                            Outside Backs:
                            Tele'a
                            Clarke
                            Reece
                            Narawa
                            Barrett

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                            @chchfanatic if that's the squad I'm trying to think of any high profile Crusaders who haven't made the squad (in terms of Razor having to make hard decision, so not counting Will Jordan who isn't fit).

                            Cullen Grace the closest?

                            That's pretty fucked if true

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                              Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Chris Scott Barrett won it last year, Will Jordan won it the year before. I can't find a full list though.

                                it hasn’t been named yet for 2024 has it ?

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                                @Chris It will formally be named in December at the ASB Rugby awards, but Hoskins is probably the favourite for it.

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                                • FrankF Frank

                                  Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

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                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                                  He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    @Chris Scott Barrett won it last year, Will Jordan won it the year before. I can't find a full list though.

                                    it hasn’t been named yet for 2024 has it ?

                                    Have a feeling @sparky has been on a 24 hour bender since the blues won with the state of some of his posts.

                                    The good news for any Blues players who don’t make the ABs is that they can go and transform English Rugby instead.

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                                    @MN5 Hoskins Sotutu could well be playing for England or Fiji by the next World Cup and Akira Ioane for Japan. I wouldn't be surprised if Vern Cotter gets an international coach gig as well.

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                                    • FrankF Frank

                                      Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

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                                      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                                      But he's currently the next best 8 and has the attributes to play at 6 with coaching.

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        @MN5 Hoskins Sotutu could well be playing for England or Fiji by the next World Cup and Akira Ioane for Japan. I wouldn't be surprised if Vern Cotter gets an international coach gig as well.

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                                        @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @MN5 Hoskins Sotutu could well be playing for England or Fiji by the next World Cup and Akira Ioane for Japan. I wouldn't be surprised if Vern Cotter gets an international coach gig as well.

                                        That’s a lot of transforming coming up

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @chchfanatic if that's the squad I'm trying to think of any high profile Crusaders who haven't made the squad (in terms of Razor having to make hard decision, so not counting Will Jordan who isn't fit).

                                          Cullen Grace the closest?

                                          That's pretty fucked if true

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                                          @KiwiMurph I'm not sure why Bower would be there, we can carry 5 props as Ofa & Tamaiti cover both sides, definitely think we need 4 locks incase S Barrett or Patrick were to get injured in the lead upto a Test

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