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All Blacks XV 2024

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  • P pakman

    @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    Pre-season for league 1 starts at the end of October. And the league itself starts just before Xmas (I think).

    That seems a real clash. Wonder what is the contractual position?

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    @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    Pre-season for league 1 starts at the end of October. And the league itself starts just before Xmas (I think).

    That seems a real clash. Wonder what is the contractual position?

    Need to be released for International Window but that is only 28th to 17th. However we don't know when Cane or TJ contract actually starts

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      @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks XV 2024:

      @Victor-Meldrew TJP wouldn’t be my choice on mentor for young players. A bit of an idiot

      Which 87+ cap AB halfback would you prefer?

      They’ll get that regardless from being in the same room, and I assume training paddock, with the ABs squad.

      Better they get match practice with uber-experienced ABs that just being in the same room with them.

      Maybe an argument for Cane, but again, in what world would they put an ex captain and 100 test AB in a development team.

      A world where there's original thinking, a longer-term view on player development, experienced players are used to mentor upcoming talent and work with coaches on developing that talent?

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      @Victor-Meldrew that’s not original thinking. Came is a very good 7 but you can’t make an argument for TJ. Has repeatedly shown a lack of leadership and rugby smarts. Wouldn’t want him near any young player

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        @Victor-Meldrew that’s not original thinking. Came is a very good 7 but you can’t make an argument for TJ. Has repeatedly shown a lack of leadership and rugby smarts. Wouldn’t want him near any young player

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        @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks XV 2024:

        that’s not original thinking

        It is for NZR.....

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          https://www.allblacks.com/news/clayton-mcmillan-announced-as-all-blacks-xv-head-coach

          The All Blacks XV 2024 Tour schedule is:

          v Munster, 2 November 5.30PM (GMT) / 3 November 6.30AM (NZDT), Thomond Park Limerick, Ireland
          v Georgia, 10 November, 2PM (CET), 11 November 2.00AM (NZDT), GGL Stadium, Montpellier, France

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            Who gets to select squad?

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            • P pakman

              Who gets to select squad?

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              @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

              Who gets to select squad?

              Normally abs selectors, I'm sure there is some discussion with XV coaches

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                #81

                Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

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                • gt12G gt12

                  Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                  I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                  Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

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                  @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                  I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                  Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

                  Both sides of the ball.

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                    I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                    Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

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                    @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                    I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                    Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

                    Also brought up in the other thread, Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July. So he should be in there unless he's subsequently done something to piss Razor off.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                      I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                      Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

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                      @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                      I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                      Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

                      But would Hoskins agree?

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                        @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                        I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                        Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

                        Also brought up in the other thread, Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July. So he should be in there unless he's subsequently done something to piss Razor off.

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                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

                        both sides of the mouth

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

                          both sides of the mouth

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                          @nzzp said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

                          both sides of the mouth

                          As bad as Foster so far.

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                            Bovidae
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                            McMillan has had some input into squad selection. The squad will be named on Tuesday, the day after the AB squad.

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                              #88

                              Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

                              Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

                              Props

                              George Dyer
                              Xavier Numia
                              George Bower
                              Marcel Renata

                              Hookers

                              Ricky Riccitelli
                              Brodie McAllister

                              Locks
                              Naitoa Ah Kuoi
                              Josh Lord
                              Isaia Walker-Leawere
                              Fabien Holland

                              Loose Forwards

                              Hoskins Sotutu
                              Christian Lio-Willie
                              Billy Harmon
                              Peter Lakai
                              Cameron Suafoa
                              Zach Gallagher

                              Halfbacks
                              Finlay Christie
                              Noah Hotham

                              First-five-eighths
                              Josh Jacomb
                              Harry Plummer

                              Midfielders
                              Rameka Poihipi
                              Quinn Tuapea
                              Daniel Rona (also wing)
                              Braydon Ennor

                              Outside Backs
                              A J Lam (can also go at 12)
                              Shaun Stevenson
                              Emoni Narewa
                              Etene Nanai-Seturo
                              Jona Nareki

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                                As always, loosies probably the most difficult to select.

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                                  Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                  If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                  Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

                                  You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                  None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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                                  • P pakman

                                    Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

                                    Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

                                    Props

                                    George Dyer
                                    Xavier Numia
                                    George Bower
                                    Marcel Renata

                                    Hookers

                                    Ricky Riccitelli
                                    Brodie McAllister

                                    Locks
                                    Naitoa Ah Kuoi
                                    Josh Lord
                                    Isaia Walker-Leawere
                                    Fabien Holland

                                    Loose Forwards

                                    Hoskins Sotutu
                                    Christian Lio-Willie
                                    Billy Harmon
                                    Peter Lakai
                                    Cameron Suafoa
                                    Zach Gallagher

                                    Halfbacks
                                    Finlay Christie
                                    Noah Hotham

                                    First-five-eighths
                                    Josh Jacomb
                                    Harry Plummer

                                    Midfielders
                                    Rameka Poihipi
                                    Quinn Tuapea
                                    Daniel Rona (also wing)
                                    Braydon Ennor

                                    Outside Backs
                                    A J Lam (can also go at 12)
                                    Shaun Stevenson
                                    Emoni Narewa
                                    Etene Nanai-Seturo
                                    Jona Nareki

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                                    KiwiInLondon
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                                    @pakman
                                    Hookers

                                    Ricky Riccitelli: if he’s not selected over Bell in the ABs, what’s the point of taking him?

                                    Loose Forwards
                                    Christian Lio-Willie
                                    Billy Harmon: Going to Japan to what’s the point in taking Harmon?
                                    Peter Lakai
                                    Cameron Suafoa
                                    Zach Gallagher: Is a lock. Another out of position loose forward? No

                                    You haven’t picked a single out and out six. Why?

                                    Midfielders
                                    Quinn Tuapea: Absolutely not. Shouldn’t be anywhere near the ABs set up
                                    Braydon Ennor: What’s the point?

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                      If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                      Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

                                      You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                      None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                      You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                      If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                      True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                      Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                      He's in ABs.

                                      Gallagher as a lock.

                                      Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                      You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                      They can always leave out Tupaea.

                                      None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                      Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                      Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                        You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                        If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                        True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                        Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                        He's in ABs.

                                        Gallagher as a lock.

                                        Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                        You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                        They can always leave out Tupaea.

                                        None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                        Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                        Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                                        Bovidae
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                                        @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                                        I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                                          Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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