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All Blacks XV 2024

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  • gt12G gt12

    Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

    I say 100% or there will be a riot.

    Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

    I say 100% or there will be a riot.

    Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

    But would Hoskins agree?

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      @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

      Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

      I say 100% or there will be a riot.

      Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

      Also brought up in the other thread, Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July. So he should be in there unless he's subsequently done something to piss Razor off.

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      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

      Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

      both sides of the mouth

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        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

        Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

        both sides of the mouth

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        @nzzp said in All Blacks XV 2024:

        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

        Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

        both sides of the mouth

        As bad as Foster so far.

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          Bovidae
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          McMillan has had some input into squad selection. The squad will be named on Tuesday, the day after the AB squad.

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            #88

            Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

            Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

            Props

            George Dyer
            Xavier Numia
            George Bower
            Marcel Renata

            Hookers

            Ricky Riccitelli
            Brodie McAllister

            Locks
            Naitoa Ah Kuoi
            Josh Lord
            Isaia Walker-Leawere
            Fabien Holland

            Loose Forwards

            Hoskins Sotutu
            Christian Lio-Willie
            Billy Harmon
            Peter Lakai
            Cameron Suafoa
            Zach Gallagher

            Halfbacks
            Finlay Christie
            Noah Hotham

            First-five-eighths
            Josh Jacomb
            Harry Plummer

            Midfielders
            Rameka Poihipi
            Quinn Tuapea
            Daniel Rona (also wing)
            Braydon Ennor

            Outside Backs
            A J Lam (can also go at 12)
            Shaun Stevenson
            Emoni Narewa
            Etene Nanai-Seturo
            Jona Nareki

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              pakman
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              As always, loosies probably the most difficult to select.

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                Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

                You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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                  Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

                  Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

                  Props

                  George Dyer
                  Xavier Numia
                  George Bower
                  Marcel Renata

                  Hookers

                  Ricky Riccitelli
                  Brodie McAllister

                  Locks
                  Naitoa Ah Kuoi
                  Josh Lord
                  Isaia Walker-Leawere
                  Fabien Holland

                  Loose Forwards

                  Hoskins Sotutu
                  Christian Lio-Willie
                  Billy Harmon
                  Peter Lakai
                  Cameron Suafoa
                  Zach Gallagher

                  Halfbacks
                  Finlay Christie
                  Noah Hotham

                  First-five-eighths
                  Josh Jacomb
                  Harry Plummer

                  Midfielders
                  Rameka Poihipi
                  Quinn Tuapea
                  Daniel Rona (also wing)
                  Braydon Ennor

                  Outside Backs
                  A J Lam (can also go at 12)
                  Shaun Stevenson
                  Emoni Narewa
                  Etene Nanai-Seturo
                  Jona Nareki

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                  KiwiInLondon
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                  @pakman
                  Hookers

                  Ricky Riccitelli: if he’s not selected over Bell in the ABs, what’s the point of taking him?

                  Loose Forwards
                  Christian Lio-Willie
                  Billy Harmon: Going to Japan to what’s the point in taking Harmon?
                  Peter Lakai
                  Cameron Suafoa
                  Zach Gallagher: Is a lock. Another out of position loose forward? No

                  You haven’t picked a single out and out six. Why?

                  Midfielders
                  Quinn Tuapea: Absolutely not. Shouldn’t be anywhere near the ABs set up
                  Braydon Ennor: What’s the point?

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                    If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                    Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

                    You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                    None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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                    #92

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                    You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                    If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                    True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                    Which squad does Perofeta make?

                    He's in ABs.

                    Gallagher as a lock.

                    Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                    You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                    They can always leave out Tupaea.

                    None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                    Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                    Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                      You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                      If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                      True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                      Which squad does Perofeta make?

                      He's in ABs.

                      Gallagher as a lock.

                      Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                      You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                      They can always leave out Tupaea.

                      None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                      Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                      Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                      @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                      I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                        Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                          I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                          KiwiInLondon
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                          @Bovidae Haig, Lakai and Sititi. The ABs u20s back row. It’s balanced, which is a start

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                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                            You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                            If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                            True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                            Which squad does Perofeta make?

                            He's in ABs.

                            Gallagher as a lock.

                            Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                            You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                            They can always leave out Tupaea.

                            None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                            Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                            Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                            @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                            You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                            If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                            True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                            Which squad does Perofeta make?

                            He's in ABs.

                            Gallagher as a lock.

                            Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                            You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                            They can always leave out Tuapea.

                            None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                            Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                            Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                            Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

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                              Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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                              @ARHS said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely.

                              Agreed, McWhannell could edge Ah Khoi. Ross for me behind Numia and Bower if only two LHs taken.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                He's in ABs.

                                Gallagher as a lock.

                                Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                They can always leave out Tuapea.

                                None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                                Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

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                                @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                He's in ABs.

                                Gallagher as a lock.

                                Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                They can always leave out Tuapea.

                                None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                                Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

                                Marginal. Seen him listed at 6' 5", but can't trust what you read!

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                                  I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                  @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                                  I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

                                  I suspect we'll see Paps and Bladder against Japan.

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                                    NZ XV (29)
                                    Props
                                    Numia
                                    Bower
                                    Ross
                                    Dyer
                                    Ma’u

                                    Hookers
                                    Riccitelli
                                    McAllister
                                    J Taylor

                                    Locks
                                    Lord
                                    Walker-Leawere
                                    Ah Kuoi

                                    Loose Forwards
                                    Haig
                                    Withy
                                    Lio-Willie
                                    Sotutu
                                    Suafoa

                                    Halfbacks
                                    Fakatava
                                    Hotham
                                    Christie

                                    First Five
                                    Jacomb

                                    Midfielder
                                    Lam
                                    Higgins
                                    McLeod
                                    Tupaea

                                    Outside Backs
                                    Perofeta
                                    Fihaki
                                    Tele’a
                                    Springer
                                    Nanai-Seturo

                                    Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                    Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                      NZ XV (29)
                                      Props
                                      Numia
                                      Bower
                                      Ross
                                      Dyer
                                      Ma’u

                                      Hookers
                                      Riccitelli
                                      McAllister
                                      J Taylor

                                      Locks
                                      Lord
                                      Walker-Leawere
                                      Ah Kuoi

                                      Loose Forwards
                                      Haig
                                      Withy
                                      Lio-Willie
                                      Sotutu
                                      Suafoa

                                      Halfbacks
                                      Fakatava
                                      Hotham
                                      Christie

                                      First Five
                                      Jacomb

                                      Midfielder
                                      Lam
                                      Higgins
                                      McLeod
                                      Tupaea

                                      Outside Backs
                                      Perofeta
                                      Fihaki
                                      Tele’a
                                      Springer
                                      Nanai-Seturo

                                      Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                      Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                        NZ XV (29)
                                        Props
                                        Numia
                                        Bower
                                        Ross
                                        Dyer
                                        Ma’u

                                        Hookers
                                        Riccitelli
                                        McAllister
                                        J Taylor

                                        Locks
                                        Lord
                                        Walker-Leawere
                                        Ah Kuoi

                                        Loose Forwards
                                        Haig
                                        Withy
                                        Lio-Willie
                                        Sotutu
                                        Suafoa

                                        Halfbacks
                                        Fakatava
                                        Hotham
                                        Christie

                                        First Five
                                        Jacomb

                                        Midfielder
                                        Lam
                                        Higgins
                                        McLeod
                                        Tupaea

                                        Outside Backs
                                        Perofeta
                                        Fihaki
                                        Tele’a
                                        Springer
                                        Nanai-Seturo

                                        Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                        Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                        KiwiInLondon
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                                        @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

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                                          @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

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                                          @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

                                          It's a guess... and in fairness, I am not sure I would tweak much other than the outside backs where I would have Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens in the mix for Fihaki.

                                          With a team like this there always going to be unlucky omissions, because naturally at a lower level, there are more players of a similar standing, particularly in the loose forwards, midfield and outsides.

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