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All Blacks XV 2024

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    As always, loosies probably the most difficult to select.

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      Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

      If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

      Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

      You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

      None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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        Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

        Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

        Props

        George Dyer
        Xavier Numia
        George Bower
        Marcel Renata

        Hookers

        Ricky Riccitelli
        Brodie McAllister

        Locks
        Naitoa Ah Kuoi
        Josh Lord
        Isaia Walker-Leawere
        Fabien Holland

        Loose Forwards

        Hoskins Sotutu
        Christian Lio-Willie
        Billy Harmon
        Peter Lakai
        Cameron Suafoa
        Zach Gallagher

        Halfbacks
        Finlay Christie
        Noah Hotham

        First-five-eighths
        Josh Jacomb
        Harry Plummer

        Midfielders
        Rameka Poihipi
        Quinn Tuapea
        Daniel Rona (also wing)
        Braydon Ennor

        Outside Backs
        A J Lam (can also go at 12)
        Shaun Stevenson
        Emoni Narewa
        Etene Nanai-Seturo
        Jona Nareki

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        @pakman
        Hookers

        Ricky Riccitelli: if he’s not selected over Bell in the ABs, what’s the point of taking him?

        Loose Forwards
        Christian Lio-Willie
        Billy Harmon: Going to Japan to what’s the point in taking Harmon?
        Peter Lakai
        Cameron Suafoa
        Zach Gallagher: Is a lock. Another out of position loose forward? No

        You haven’t picked a single out and out six. Why?

        Midfielders
        Quinn Tuapea: Absolutely not. Shouldn’t be anywhere near the ABs set up
        Braydon Ennor: What’s the point?

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

          If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

          Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

          You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

          None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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          @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

          Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

          You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

          If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

          True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

          Which squad does Perofeta make?

          He's in ABs.

          Gallagher as a lock.

          Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

          You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

          They can always leave out Tupaea.

          None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

          Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

          Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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            @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

            You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

            If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

            True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

            Which squad does Perofeta make?

            He's in ABs.

            Gallagher as a lock.

            Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

            You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

            They can always leave out Tupaea.

            None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

            Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

            Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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            Bovidae
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            @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

            I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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              Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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                @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                @Bovidae Haig, Lakai and Sititi. The ABs u20s back row. It’s balanced, which is a start

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                  You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                  If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                  True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                  Which squad does Perofeta make?

                  He's in ABs.

                  Gallagher as a lock.

                  Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                  You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                  They can always leave out Tupaea.

                  None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                  Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                  Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                  @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                  You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                  If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                  True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                  Which squad does Perofeta make?

                  He's in ABs.

                  Gallagher as a lock.

                  Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                  You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                  They can always leave out Tuapea.

                  None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                  Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                  Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                  Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

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                    Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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                    @ARHS said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely.

                    Agreed, McWhannell could edge Ah Khoi. Ross for me behind Numia and Bower if only two LHs taken.

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                      @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                      You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                      If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                      True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                      Which squad does Perofeta make?

                      He's in ABs.

                      Gallagher as a lock.

                      Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                      You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                      They can always leave out Tuapea.

                      None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                      Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                      Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                      Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

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                      @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                      You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                      If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                      True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                      Which squad does Perofeta make?

                      He's in ABs.

                      Gallagher as a lock.

                      Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                      You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                      They can always leave out Tuapea.

                      None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                      Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                      Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                      Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

                      Marginal. Seen him listed at 6' 5", but can't trust what you read!

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                        I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                        I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

                        I suspect we'll see Paps and Bladder against Japan.

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                          NZ XV (29)
                          Props
                          Numia
                          Bower
                          Ross
                          Dyer
                          Ma’u

                          Hookers
                          Riccitelli
                          McAllister
                          J Taylor

                          Locks
                          Lord
                          Walker-Leawere
                          Ah Kuoi

                          Loose Forwards
                          Haig
                          Withy
                          Lio-Willie
                          Sotutu
                          Suafoa

                          Halfbacks
                          Fakatava
                          Hotham
                          Christie

                          First Five
                          Jacomb

                          Midfielder
                          Lam
                          Higgins
                          McLeod
                          Tupaea

                          Outside Backs
                          Perofeta
                          Fihaki
                          Tele’a
                          Springer
                          Nanai-Seturo

                          Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                          Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                            NZ XV (29)
                            Props
                            Numia
                            Bower
                            Ross
                            Dyer
                            Ma’u

                            Hookers
                            Riccitelli
                            McAllister
                            J Taylor

                            Locks
                            Lord
                            Walker-Leawere
                            Ah Kuoi

                            Loose Forwards
                            Haig
                            Withy
                            Lio-Willie
                            Sotutu
                            Suafoa

                            Halfbacks
                            Fakatava
                            Hotham
                            Christie

                            First Five
                            Jacomb

                            Midfielder
                            Lam
                            Higgins
                            McLeod
                            Tupaea

                            Outside Backs
                            Perofeta
                            Fihaki
                            Tele’a
                            Springer
                            Nanai-Seturo

                            Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                            Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                              NZ XV (29)
                              Props
                              Numia
                              Bower
                              Ross
                              Dyer
                              Ma’u

                              Hookers
                              Riccitelli
                              McAllister
                              J Taylor

                              Locks
                              Lord
                              Walker-Leawere
                              Ah Kuoi

                              Loose Forwards
                              Haig
                              Withy
                              Lio-Willie
                              Sotutu
                              Suafoa

                              Halfbacks
                              Fakatava
                              Hotham
                              Christie

                              First Five
                              Jacomb

                              Midfielder
                              Lam
                              Higgins
                              McLeod
                              Tupaea

                              Outside Backs
                              Perofeta
                              Fihaki
                              Tele’a
                              Springer
                              Nanai-Seturo

                              Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                              Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                              @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

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                                @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

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                                @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

                                It's a guess... and in fairness, I am not sure I would tweak much other than the outside backs where I would have Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens in the mix for Fihaki.

                                With a team like this there always going to be unlucky omissions, because naturally at a lower level, there are more players of a similar standing, particularly in the loose forwards, midfield and outsides.

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                                  NZ XV (29)
                                  Props
                                  Numia
                                  Bower
                                  Ross
                                  Dyer
                                  Ma’u

                                  Hookers
                                  Riccitelli
                                  McAllister
                                  J Taylor

                                  Locks
                                  Lord
                                  Walker-Leawere
                                  Ah Kuoi

                                  Loose Forwards
                                  Haig
                                  Withy
                                  Lio-Willie
                                  Sotutu
                                  Suafoa

                                  Halfbacks
                                  Fakatava
                                  Hotham
                                  Christie

                                  First Five
                                  Jacomb

                                  Midfielder
                                  Lam
                                  Higgins
                                  McLeod
                                  Tupaea

                                  Outside Backs
                                  Perofeta
                                  Fihaki
                                  Tele’a
                                  Springer
                                  Nanai-Seturo

                                  Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                  Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                  @frugby

                                  I watched Withy and he had a pretty good season but I'm not convinced he deserves to be there over the likes of Kirifi or Segner.

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                                    I still wonder if Xavier Roe's kicking game and tactical awareness merits a look. Scrag tackler though.

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                                      Looking at the dates of the games there is the opportunity to give the third AB halfback (i.e., Hotham) a game against Georgia. That could also apply to other AB squad players. It's not possible for the Munster game as that is the same day as the English test.

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                                        @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                        You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                        If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                        True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                        Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                        He's in ABs.

                                        Gallagher as a lock.

                                        Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                        You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                        They can always leave out Tuapea.

                                        None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                        Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                        Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                                        Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

                                        Marginal. Seen him listed at 6' 5", but can't trust what you read!

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                                        @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                        You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                        If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                        True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                        Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                        He's in ABs.

                                        Gallagher as a lock.

                                        Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                        You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                        They can always leave out Tuapea.

                                        None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                        Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                        Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                                        Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

                                        Marginal. Seen him listed at 6' 5", but can't trust what you read!

                                        Nah he’s 6ft 6

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                                          Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                          If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                          Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

                                          You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                          None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                          Yup agreed, especially considering Harmon is leaving. I’ll add Riccitelli to that, the lads about to be 30. Everyone likes him and he had a great super season but if he’s doesn’t fit the bill of an upcoming/developmental player is there much point? I guess it comes down to how much of the drop of from him to the next group of hookers the coaches think there is.

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