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All Blacks XV 2024

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  • M Mr Fish

    @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

    I say 100% or there will be a riot.

    Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

    Also brought up in the other thread, Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July. So he should be in there unless he's subsequently done something to piss Razor off.

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

    both sides of the mouth

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      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

      Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

      both sides of the mouth

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      @nzzp said in All Blacks XV 2024:

      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

      Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

      both sides of the mouth

      As bad as Foster so far.

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        Bovidae
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        McMillan has had some input into squad selection. The squad will be named on Tuesday, the day after the AB squad.

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          pakman
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          #88

          Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

          Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

          Props

          George Dyer
          Xavier Numia
          George Bower
          Marcel Renata

          Hookers

          Ricky Riccitelli
          Brodie McAllister

          Locks
          Naitoa Ah Kuoi
          Josh Lord
          Isaia Walker-Leawere
          Fabien Holland

          Loose Forwards

          Hoskins Sotutu
          Christian Lio-Willie
          Billy Harmon
          Peter Lakai
          Cameron Suafoa
          Zach Gallagher

          Halfbacks
          Finlay Christie
          Noah Hotham

          First-five-eighths
          Josh Jacomb
          Harry Plummer

          Midfielders
          Rameka Poihipi
          Quinn Tuapea
          Daniel Rona (also wing)
          Braydon Ennor

          Outside Backs
          A J Lam (can also go at 12)
          Shaun Stevenson
          Emoni Narewa
          Etene Nanai-Seturo
          Jona Nareki

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            pakman
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            As always, loosies probably the most difficult to select.

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              Bovidae
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              Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

              If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

              Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

              You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

              None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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                Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

                Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

                Props

                George Dyer
                Xavier Numia
                George Bower
                Marcel Renata

                Hookers

                Ricky Riccitelli
                Brodie McAllister

                Locks
                Naitoa Ah Kuoi
                Josh Lord
                Isaia Walker-Leawere
                Fabien Holland

                Loose Forwards

                Hoskins Sotutu
                Christian Lio-Willie
                Billy Harmon
                Peter Lakai
                Cameron Suafoa
                Zach Gallagher

                Halfbacks
                Finlay Christie
                Noah Hotham

                First-five-eighths
                Josh Jacomb
                Harry Plummer

                Midfielders
                Rameka Poihipi
                Quinn Tuapea
                Daniel Rona (also wing)
                Braydon Ennor

                Outside Backs
                A J Lam (can also go at 12)
                Shaun Stevenson
                Emoni Narewa
                Etene Nanai-Seturo
                Jona Nareki

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                KiwiInLondon
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                @pakman
                Hookers

                Ricky Riccitelli: if he’s not selected over Bell in the ABs, what’s the point of taking him?

                Loose Forwards
                Christian Lio-Willie
                Billy Harmon: Going to Japan to what’s the point in taking Harmon?
                Peter Lakai
                Cameron Suafoa
                Zach Gallagher: Is a lock. Another out of position loose forward? No

                You haven’t picked a single out and out six. Why?

                Midfielders
                Quinn Tuapea: Absolutely not. Shouldn’t be anywhere near the ABs set up
                Braydon Ennor: What’s the point?

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                  If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                  Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

                  You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                  None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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                  #92

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                  You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                  If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                  True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                  Which squad does Perofeta make?

                  He's in ABs.

                  Gallagher as a lock.

                  Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                  You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                  They can always leave out Tupaea.

                  None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                  Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                  Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                    You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                    If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                    True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                    Which squad does Perofeta make?

                    He's in ABs.

                    Gallagher as a lock.

                    Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                    You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                    They can always leave out Tupaea.

                    None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                    Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                    Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                    @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                    I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                      #94

                      Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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                        @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                        I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                        @Bovidae Haig, Lakai and Sititi. The ABs u20s back row. It’s balanced, which is a start

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                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                          You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                          If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                          True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                          Which squad does Perofeta make?

                          He's in ABs.

                          Gallagher as a lock.

                          Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                          You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                          They can always leave out Tupaea.

                          None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                          Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                          Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                          @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                          You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                          If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                          True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                          Which squad does Perofeta make?

                          He's in ABs.

                          Gallagher as a lock.

                          Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                          You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                          They can always leave out Tuapea.

                          None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                          Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                          Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                          Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

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                            Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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                            @ARHS said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely.

                            Agreed, McWhannell could edge Ah Khoi. Ross for me behind Numia and Bower if only two LHs taken.

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                              @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                              You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                              If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                              True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                              Which squad does Perofeta make?

                              He's in ABs.

                              Gallagher as a lock.

                              Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                              You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                              They can always leave out Tuapea.

                              None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                              Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                              Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                              Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

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                              @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                              You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                              If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                              True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                              Which squad does Perofeta make?

                              He's in ABs.

                              Gallagher as a lock.

                              Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                              You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                              They can always leave out Tuapea.

                              None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                              Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                              Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                              Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

                              Marginal. Seen him listed at 6' 5", but can't trust what you read!

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                                @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                                I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                                @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                                I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

                                I suspect we'll see Paps and Bladder against Japan.

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                                  NZ XV (29)
                                  Props
                                  Numia
                                  Bower
                                  Ross
                                  Dyer
                                  Ma’u

                                  Hookers
                                  Riccitelli
                                  McAllister
                                  J Taylor

                                  Locks
                                  Lord
                                  Walker-Leawere
                                  Ah Kuoi

                                  Loose Forwards
                                  Haig
                                  Withy
                                  Lio-Willie
                                  Sotutu
                                  Suafoa

                                  Halfbacks
                                  Fakatava
                                  Hotham
                                  Christie

                                  First Five
                                  Jacomb

                                  Midfielder
                                  Lam
                                  Higgins
                                  McLeod
                                  Tupaea

                                  Outside Backs
                                  Perofeta
                                  Fihaki
                                  Tele’a
                                  Springer
                                  Nanai-Seturo

                                  Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                  Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                    NZ XV (29)
                                    Props
                                    Numia
                                    Bower
                                    Ross
                                    Dyer
                                    Ma’u

                                    Hookers
                                    Riccitelli
                                    McAllister
                                    J Taylor

                                    Locks
                                    Lord
                                    Walker-Leawere
                                    Ah Kuoi

                                    Loose Forwards
                                    Haig
                                    Withy
                                    Lio-Willie
                                    Sotutu
                                    Suafoa

                                    Halfbacks
                                    Fakatava
                                    Hotham
                                    Christie

                                    First Five
                                    Jacomb

                                    Midfielder
                                    Lam
                                    Higgins
                                    McLeod
                                    Tupaea

                                    Outside Backs
                                    Perofeta
                                    Fihaki
                                    Tele’a
                                    Springer
                                    Nanai-Seturo

                                    Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                    Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                      NZ XV (29)
                                      Props
                                      Numia
                                      Bower
                                      Ross
                                      Dyer
                                      Ma’u

                                      Hookers
                                      Riccitelli
                                      McAllister
                                      J Taylor

                                      Locks
                                      Lord
                                      Walker-Leawere
                                      Ah Kuoi

                                      Loose Forwards
                                      Haig
                                      Withy
                                      Lio-Willie
                                      Sotutu
                                      Suafoa

                                      Halfbacks
                                      Fakatava
                                      Hotham
                                      Christie

                                      First Five
                                      Jacomb

                                      Midfielder
                                      Lam
                                      Higgins
                                      McLeod
                                      Tupaea

                                      Outside Backs
                                      Perofeta
                                      Fihaki
                                      Tele’a
                                      Springer
                                      Nanai-Seturo

                                      Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                      Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                      @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

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                                        @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

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                                        @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

                                        It's a guess... and in fairness, I am not sure I would tweak much other than the outside backs where I would have Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens in the mix for Fihaki.

                                        With a team like this there always going to be unlucky omissions, because naturally at a lower level, there are more players of a similar standing, particularly in the loose forwards, midfield and outsides.

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                                          NZ XV (29)
                                          Props
                                          Numia
                                          Bower
                                          Ross
                                          Dyer
                                          Ma’u

                                          Hookers
                                          Riccitelli
                                          McAllister
                                          J Taylor

                                          Locks
                                          Lord
                                          Walker-Leawere
                                          Ah Kuoi

                                          Loose Forwards
                                          Haig
                                          Withy
                                          Lio-Willie
                                          Sotutu
                                          Suafoa

                                          Halfbacks
                                          Fakatava
                                          Hotham
                                          Christie

                                          First Five
                                          Jacomb

                                          Midfielder
                                          Lam
                                          Higgins
                                          McLeod
                                          Tupaea

                                          Outside Backs
                                          Perofeta
                                          Fihaki
                                          Tele’a
                                          Springer
                                          Nanai-Seturo

                                          Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                          Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                          @frugby

                                          I watched Withy and he had a pretty good season but I'm not convinced he deserves to be there over the likes of Kirifi or Segner.

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