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All Blacks XV 2024

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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    @Victor-Meldrew TJP wouldn’t be my choice on mentor for young players. A bit of an idiot

    Which 87+ cap AB halfback would you prefer?

    They’ll get that regardless from being in the same room, and I assume training paddock, with the ABs squad.

    Better they get match practice with uber-experienced ABs that just being in the same room with them.

    Maybe an argument for Cane, but again, in what world would they put an ex captain and 100 test AB in a development team.

    A world where there's original thinking, a longer-term view on player development, experienced players are used to mentor upcoming talent and work with coaches on developing that talent?

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    @Victor-Meldrew that’s not original thinking. Came is a very good 7 but you can’t make an argument for TJ. Has repeatedly shown a lack of leadership and rugby smarts. Wouldn’t want him near any young player

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      @Victor-Meldrew that’s not original thinking. Came is a very good 7 but you can’t make an argument for TJ. Has repeatedly shown a lack of leadership and rugby smarts. Wouldn’t want him near any young player

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      @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks XV 2024:

      that’s not original thinking

      It is for NZR.....

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        https://www.allblacks.com/news/clayton-mcmillan-announced-as-all-blacks-xv-head-coach

        The All Blacks XV 2024 Tour schedule is:

        v Munster, 2 November 5.30PM (GMT) / 3 November 6.30AM (NZDT), Thomond Park Limerick, Ireland
        v Georgia, 10 November, 2PM (CET), 11 November 2.00AM (NZDT), GGL Stadium, Montpellier, France

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          Who gets to select squad?

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            Who gets to select squad?

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            @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            Who gets to select squad?

            Normally abs selectors, I'm sure there is some discussion with XV coaches

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              #81

              Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

              I say 100% or there will be a riot.

              Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

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              • gt12G gt12

                Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

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                @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

                Both sides of the ball.

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                • gt12G gt12

                  Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                  I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                  Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

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                  @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                  I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                  Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

                  Also brought up in the other thread, Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July. So he should be in there unless he's subsequently done something to piss Razor off.

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                    I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                    Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

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                    @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                    I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                    Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

                    But would Hoskins agree?

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                      @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

                      I say 100% or there will be a riot.

                      Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

                      Also brought up in the other thread, Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July. So he should be in there unless he's subsequently done something to piss Razor off.

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                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

                      both sides of the mouth

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                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

                        both sides of the mouth

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                        @nzzp said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

                        both sides of the mouth

                        As bad as Foster so far.

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                          Bovidae
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                          McMillan has had some input into squad selection. The squad will be named on Tuesday, the day after the AB squad.

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                            #88

                            Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

                            Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

                            Props

                            George Dyer
                            Xavier Numia
                            George Bower
                            Marcel Renata

                            Hookers

                            Ricky Riccitelli
                            Brodie McAllister

                            Locks
                            Naitoa Ah Kuoi
                            Josh Lord
                            Isaia Walker-Leawere
                            Fabien Holland

                            Loose Forwards

                            Hoskins Sotutu
                            Christian Lio-Willie
                            Billy Harmon
                            Peter Lakai
                            Cameron Suafoa
                            Zach Gallagher

                            Halfbacks
                            Finlay Christie
                            Noah Hotham

                            First-five-eighths
                            Josh Jacomb
                            Harry Plummer

                            Midfielders
                            Rameka Poihipi
                            Quinn Tuapea
                            Daniel Rona (also wing)
                            Braydon Ennor

                            Outside Backs
                            A J Lam (can also go at 12)
                            Shaun Stevenson
                            Emoni Narewa
                            Etene Nanai-Seturo
                            Jona Nareki

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                              pakman
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                              As always, loosies probably the most difficult to select.

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                                Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

                                You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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                                  Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

                                  Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

                                  Props

                                  George Dyer
                                  Xavier Numia
                                  George Bower
                                  Marcel Renata

                                  Hookers

                                  Ricky Riccitelli
                                  Brodie McAllister

                                  Locks
                                  Naitoa Ah Kuoi
                                  Josh Lord
                                  Isaia Walker-Leawere
                                  Fabien Holland

                                  Loose Forwards

                                  Hoskins Sotutu
                                  Christian Lio-Willie
                                  Billy Harmon
                                  Peter Lakai
                                  Cameron Suafoa
                                  Zach Gallagher

                                  Halfbacks
                                  Finlay Christie
                                  Noah Hotham

                                  First-five-eighths
                                  Josh Jacomb
                                  Harry Plummer

                                  Midfielders
                                  Rameka Poihipi
                                  Quinn Tuapea
                                  Daniel Rona (also wing)
                                  Braydon Ennor

                                  Outside Backs
                                  A J Lam (can also go at 12)
                                  Shaun Stevenson
                                  Emoni Narewa
                                  Etene Nanai-Seturo
                                  Jona Nareki

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                                  KiwiInLondon
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                                  @pakman
                                  Hookers

                                  Ricky Riccitelli: if he’s not selected over Bell in the ABs, what’s the point of taking him?

                                  Loose Forwards
                                  Christian Lio-Willie
                                  Billy Harmon: Going to Japan to what’s the point in taking Harmon?
                                  Peter Lakai
                                  Cameron Suafoa
                                  Zach Gallagher: Is a lock. Another out of position loose forward? No

                                  You haven’t picked a single out and out six. Why?

                                  Midfielders
                                  Quinn Tuapea: Absolutely not. Shouldn’t be anywhere near the ABs set up
                                  Braydon Ennor: What’s the point?

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                    If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                    Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

                                    You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                    None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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                                    pakman
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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                    You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                    If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                    True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                    Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                    He's in ABs.

                                    Gallagher as a lock.

                                    Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                    You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                    They can always leave out Tupaea.

                                    None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                    Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                    Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                      You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                      If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                      True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                      Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                      He's in ABs.

                                      Gallagher as a lock.

                                      Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                      You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                      They can always leave out Tupaea.

                                      None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                      Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                      Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                                      I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                                        ARHS
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                                        #94

                                        Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                                          I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                                          KiwiInLondon
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                                          @Bovidae Haig, Lakai and Sititi. The ABs u20s back row. It’s balanced, which is a start

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