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All Blacks XV 2024

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  • gt12G gt12

    Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

    I say 100% or there will be a riot.

    Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

    I say 100% or there will be a riot.

    Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

    Also brought up in the other thread, Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July. So he should be in there unless he's subsequently done something to piss Razor off.

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    • gt12G gt12

      Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

      I say 100% or there will be a riot.

      Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

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      @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

      Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

      I say 100% or there will be a riot.

      Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

      But would Hoskins agree?

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        @gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

        Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?

        I say 100% or there will be a riot.

        Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.

        Also brought up in the other thread, Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July. So he should be in there unless he's subsequently done something to piss Razor off.

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        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

        Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

        both sides of the mouth

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

          Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

          both sides of the mouth

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          @nzzp said in All Blacks XV 2024:

          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:

          Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.

          both sides of the mouth

          As bad as Foster so far.

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            Bovidae
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            McMillan has had some input into squad selection. The squad will be named on Tuesday, the day after the AB squad.

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              #88

              Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

              Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

              Props

              George Dyer
              Xavier Numia
              George Bower
              Marcel Renata

              Hookers

              Ricky Riccitelli
              Brodie McAllister

              Locks
              Naitoa Ah Kuoi
              Josh Lord
              Isaia Walker-Leawere
              Fabien Holland

              Loose Forwards

              Hoskins Sotutu
              Christian Lio-Willie
              Billy Harmon
              Peter Lakai
              Cameron Suafoa
              Zach Gallagher

              Halfbacks
              Finlay Christie
              Noah Hotham

              First-five-eighths
              Josh Jacomb
              Harry Plummer

              Midfielders
              Rameka Poihipi
              Quinn Tuapea
              Daniel Rona (also wing)
              Braydon Ennor

              Outside Backs
              A J Lam (can also go at 12)
              Shaun Stevenson
              Emoni Narewa
              Etene Nanai-Seturo
              Jona Nareki

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                As always, loosies probably the most difficult to select.

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                  Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                  If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                  Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

                  You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                  None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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                    Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

                    Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

                    Props

                    George Dyer
                    Xavier Numia
                    George Bower
                    Marcel Renata

                    Hookers

                    Ricky Riccitelli
                    Brodie McAllister

                    Locks
                    Naitoa Ah Kuoi
                    Josh Lord
                    Isaia Walker-Leawere
                    Fabien Holland

                    Loose Forwards

                    Hoskins Sotutu
                    Christian Lio-Willie
                    Billy Harmon
                    Peter Lakai
                    Cameron Suafoa
                    Zach Gallagher

                    Halfbacks
                    Finlay Christie
                    Noah Hotham

                    First-five-eighths
                    Josh Jacomb
                    Harry Plummer

                    Midfielders
                    Rameka Poihipi
                    Quinn Tuapea
                    Daniel Rona (also wing)
                    Braydon Ennor

                    Outside Backs
                    A J Lam (can also go at 12)
                    Shaun Stevenson
                    Emoni Narewa
                    Etene Nanai-Seturo
                    Jona Nareki

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                    KiwiInLondon
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                    @pakman
                    Hookers

                    Ricky Riccitelli: if he’s not selected over Bell in the ABs, what’s the point of taking him?

                    Loose Forwards
                    Christian Lio-Willie
                    Billy Harmon: Going to Japan to what’s the point in taking Harmon?
                    Peter Lakai
                    Cameron Suafoa
                    Zach Gallagher: Is a lock. Another out of position loose forward? No

                    You haven’t picked a single out and out six. Why?

                    Midfielders
                    Quinn Tuapea: Absolutely not. Shouldn’t be anywhere near the ABs set up
                    Braydon Ennor: What’s the point?

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                      If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                      Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

                      You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                      None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                      You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                      If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                      True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                      Which squad does Perofeta make?

                      He's in ABs.

                      Gallagher as a lock.

                      Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                      You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                      They can always leave out Tupaea.

                      None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                      Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                      Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                        You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                        If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                        True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                        Which squad does Perofeta make?

                        He's in ABs.

                        Gallagher as a lock.

                        Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                        You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                        They can always leave out Tupaea.

                        None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                        Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                        Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                        @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                        I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                          Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                            I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                            KiwiInLondon
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                            @Bovidae Haig, Lakai and Sititi. The ABs u20s back row. It’s balanced, which is a start

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                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                              You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                              If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                              True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                              Which squad does Perofeta make?

                              He's in ABs.

                              Gallagher as a lock.

                              Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                              You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                              They can always leave out Tupaea.

                              None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                              Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                              Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                              @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                              You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                              If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                              True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                              Which squad does Perofeta make?

                              He's in ABs.

                              Gallagher as a lock.

                              Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                              You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                              They can always leave out Tuapea.

                              None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                              Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                              Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                              Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

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                                Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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                                @ARHS said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely.

                                Agreed, McWhannell could edge Ah Khoi. Ross for me behind Numia and Bower if only two LHs taken.

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                  Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                  You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                  If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                  True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                  Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                  He's in ABs.

                                  Gallagher as a lock.

                                  Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                  You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                  They can always leave out Tuapea.

                                  None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                  Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                  Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                                  Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

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                                  @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                  Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                  You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                  If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                  True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                  Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                  He's in ABs.

                                  Gallagher as a lock.

                                  Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                  You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                  They can always leave out Tuapea.

                                  None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                  Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                  Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                                  Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

                                  Marginal. Seen him listed at 6' 5", but can't trust what you read!

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                                    I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                                    I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

                                    I suspect we'll see Paps and Bladder against Japan.

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                                      NZ XV (29)
                                      Props
                                      Numia
                                      Bower
                                      Ross
                                      Dyer
                                      Ma’u

                                      Hookers
                                      Riccitelli
                                      McAllister
                                      J Taylor

                                      Locks
                                      Lord
                                      Walker-Leawere
                                      Ah Kuoi

                                      Loose Forwards
                                      Haig
                                      Withy
                                      Lio-Willie
                                      Sotutu
                                      Suafoa

                                      Halfbacks
                                      Fakatava
                                      Hotham
                                      Christie

                                      First Five
                                      Jacomb

                                      Midfielder
                                      Lam
                                      Higgins
                                      McLeod
                                      Tupaea

                                      Outside Backs
                                      Perofeta
                                      Fihaki
                                      Tele’a
                                      Springer
                                      Nanai-Seturo

                                      Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                      Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                        NZ XV (29)
                                        Props
                                        Numia
                                        Bower
                                        Ross
                                        Dyer
                                        Ma’u

                                        Hookers
                                        Riccitelli
                                        McAllister
                                        J Taylor

                                        Locks
                                        Lord
                                        Walker-Leawere
                                        Ah Kuoi

                                        Loose Forwards
                                        Haig
                                        Withy
                                        Lio-Willie
                                        Sotutu
                                        Suafoa

                                        Halfbacks
                                        Fakatava
                                        Hotham
                                        Christie

                                        First Five
                                        Jacomb

                                        Midfielder
                                        Lam
                                        Higgins
                                        McLeod
                                        Tupaea

                                        Outside Backs
                                        Perofeta
                                        Fihaki
                                        Tele’a
                                        Springer
                                        Nanai-Seturo

                                        Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                        Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                          NZ XV (29)
                                          Props
                                          Numia
                                          Bower
                                          Ross
                                          Dyer
                                          Ma’u

                                          Hookers
                                          Riccitelli
                                          McAllister
                                          J Taylor

                                          Locks
                                          Lord
                                          Walker-Leawere
                                          Ah Kuoi

                                          Loose Forwards
                                          Haig
                                          Withy
                                          Lio-Willie
                                          Sotutu
                                          Suafoa

                                          Halfbacks
                                          Fakatava
                                          Hotham
                                          Christie

                                          First Five
                                          Jacomb

                                          Midfielder
                                          Lam
                                          Higgins
                                          McLeod
                                          Tupaea

                                          Outside Backs
                                          Perofeta
                                          Fihaki
                                          Tele’a
                                          Springer
                                          Nanai-Seturo

                                          Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                          Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                          @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

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