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All Blacks XV 2024

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    pakman
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    #88

    Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

    Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

    Props

    George Dyer
    Xavier Numia
    George Bower
    Marcel Renata

    Hookers

    Ricky Riccitelli
    Brodie McAllister

    Locks
    Naitoa Ah Kuoi
    Josh Lord
    Isaia Walker-Leawere
    Fabien Holland

    Loose Forwards

    Hoskins Sotutu
    Christian Lio-Willie
    Billy Harmon
    Peter Lakai
    Cameron Suafoa
    Zach Gallagher

    Halfbacks
    Finlay Christie
    Noah Hotham

    First-five-eighths
    Josh Jacomb
    Harry Plummer

    Midfielders
    Rameka Poihipi
    Quinn Tuapea
    Daniel Rona (also wing)
    Braydon Ennor

    Outside Backs
    A J Lam (can also go at 12)
    Shaun Stevenson
    Emoni Narewa
    Etene Nanai-Seturo
    Jona Nareki

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      pakman
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      As always, loosies probably the most difficult to select.

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        Bovidae
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        Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

        If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

        Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

        You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

        None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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          Taking last year and slotting in ex ABs and injury back up ABs, with a couple of additions, gives this. Not close enough to NPC form to know who's missing.

          Assumes TJS, Cane, and Finau remain in AB squad.

          Props

          George Dyer
          Xavier Numia
          George Bower
          Marcel Renata

          Hookers

          Ricky Riccitelli
          Brodie McAllister

          Locks
          Naitoa Ah Kuoi
          Josh Lord
          Isaia Walker-Leawere
          Fabien Holland

          Loose Forwards

          Hoskins Sotutu
          Christian Lio-Willie
          Billy Harmon
          Peter Lakai
          Cameron Suafoa
          Zach Gallagher

          Halfbacks
          Finlay Christie
          Noah Hotham

          First-five-eighths
          Josh Jacomb
          Harry Plummer

          Midfielders
          Rameka Poihipi
          Quinn Tuapea
          Daniel Rona (also wing)
          Braydon Ennor

          Outside Backs
          A J Lam (can also go at 12)
          Shaun Stevenson
          Emoni Narewa
          Etene Nanai-Seturo
          Jona Nareki

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          KiwiInLondon
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          @pakman
          Hookers

          Ricky Riccitelli: if he’s not selected over Bell in the ABs, what’s the point of taking him?

          Loose Forwards
          Christian Lio-Willie
          Billy Harmon: Going to Japan to what’s the point in taking Harmon?
          Peter Lakai
          Cameron Suafoa
          Zach Gallagher: Is a lock. Another out of position loose forward? No

          You haven’t picked a single out and out six. Why?

          Midfielders
          Quinn Tuapea: Absolutely not. Shouldn’t be anywhere near the ABs set up
          Braydon Ennor: What’s the point?

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

            If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

            Which squad does Perofeta make? Gallagher as a lock.

            You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

            None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

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            pakman
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            #92

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

            You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

            If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

            True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

            Which squad does Perofeta make?

            He's in ABs.

            Gallagher as a lock.

            Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

            You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

            They can always leave out Tupaea.

            None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

            Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

            Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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              @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

              Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

              You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

              If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

              True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

              Which squad does Perofeta make?

              He's in ABs.

              Gallagher as a lock.

              Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

              You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

              They can always leave out Tupaea.

              None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

              Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

              Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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              Bovidae
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              @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

              I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                ARHS
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                #94

                Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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                  @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                  I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                  @Bovidae Haig, Lakai and Sititi. The ABs u20s back row. It’s balanced, which is a start

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                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                    You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                    If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                    True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                    Which squad does Perofeta make?

                    He's in ABs.

                    Gallagher as a lock.

                    Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                    You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                    They can always leave out Tupaea.

                    None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                    Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                    Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

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                    @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                    You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                    If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                    True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                    Which squad does Perofeta make?

                    He's in ABs.

                    Gallagher as a lock.

                    Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                    You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                    They can always leave out Tuapea.

                    None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                    Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                    Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                    Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

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                      Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely. Brayden Iose and Segner worthy loosies. D McLeod and Stevenson are chances in backs.

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                      @ARHS said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      Mc Whannell, Riley Higgins, A Ross, Haig are all contenders surely.

                      Agreed, McWhannell could edge Ah Khoi. Ross for me behind Numia and Bower if only two LHs taken.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                        You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                        If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                        True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                        Which squad does Perofeta make?

                        He's in ABs.

                        Gallagher as a lock.

                        Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                        You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                        They can always leave out Tuapea.

                        None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                        Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                        Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                        Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

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                        @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                        You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                        If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                        True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                        Which squad does Perofeta make?

                        He's in ABs.

                        Gallagher as a lock.

                        Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                        You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                        They can always leave out Tuapea.

                        None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                        Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                        Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                        Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

                        Marginal. Seen him listed at 6' 5", but can't trust what you read!

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                          I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

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                          pakman
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                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          @pakman Yes, Haig, Withy and Taylor were mentioned. There are better options than Taylor for hooker.

                          I'd be giving Lakai the games at 7. I am assuming that Papalii gets to play against Japan.

                          I suspect we'll see Paps and Bladder against Japan.

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                            frugby
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                            #100

                            NZ XV (29)
                            Props
                            Numia
                            Bower
                            Ross
                            Dyer
                            Ma’u

                            Hookers
                            Riccitelli
                            McAllister
                            J Taylor

                            Locks
                            Lord
                            Walker-Leawere
                            Ah Kuoi

                            Loose Forwards
                            Haig
                            Withy
                            Lio-Willie
                            Sotutu
                            Suafoa

                            Halfbacks
                            Fakatava
                            Hotham
                            Christie

                            First Five
                            Jacomb

                            Midfielder
                            Lam
                            Higgins
                            McLeod
                            Tupaea

                            Outside Backs
                            Perofeta
                            Fihaki
                            Tele’a
                            Springer
                            Nanai-Seturo

                            Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                            Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                              NZ XV (29)
                              Props
                              Numia
                              Bower
                              Ross
                              Dyer
                              Ma’u

                              Hookers
                              Riccitelli
                              McAllister
                              J Taylor

                              Locks
                              Lord
                              Walker-Leawere
                              Ah Kuoi

                              Loose Forwards
                              Haig
                              Withy
                              Lio-Willie
                              Sotutu
                              Suafoa

                              Halfbacks
                              Fakatava
                              Hotham
                              Christie

                              First Five
                              Jacomb

                              Midfielder
                              Lam
                              Higgins
                              McLeod
                              Tupaea

                              Outside Backs
                              Perofeta
                              Fihaki
                              Tele’a
                              Springer
                              Nanai-Seturo

                              Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                              Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                              • frugbyF frugby

                                NZ XV (29)
                                Props
                                Numia
                                Bower
                                Ross
                                Dyer
                                Ma’u

                                Hookers
                                Riccitelli
                                McAllister
                                J Taylor

                                Locks
                                Lord
                                Walker-Leawere
                                Ah Kuoi

                                Loose Forwards
                                Haig
                                Withy
                                Lio-Willie
                                Sotutu
                                Suafoa

                                Halfbacks
                                Fakatava
                                Hotham
                                Christie

                                First Five
                                Jacomb

                                Midfielder
                                Lam
                                Higgins
                                McLeod
                                Tupaea

                                Outside Backs
                                Perofeta
                                Fihaki
                                Tele’a
                                Springer
                                Nanai-Seturo

                                Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

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                                  @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

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                                  @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                  @frugby is this a wish list or inside information?

                                  It's a guess... and in fairness, I am not sure I would tweak much other than the outside backs where I would have Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens in the mix for Fihaki.

                                  With a team like this there always going to be unlucky omissions, because naturally at a lower level, there are more players of a similar standing, particularly in the loose forwards, midfield and outsides.

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                                    NZ XV (29)
                                    Props
                                    Numia
                                    Bower
                                    Ross
                                    Dyer
                                    Ma’u

                                    Hookers
                                    Riccitelli
                                    McAllister
                                    J Taylor

                                    Locks
                                    Lord
                                    Walker-Leawere
                                    Ah Kuoi

                                    Loose Forwards
                                    Haig
                                    Withy
                                    Lio-Willie
                                    Sotutu
                                    Suafoa

                                    Halfbacks
                                    Fakatava
                                    Hotham
                                    Christie

                                    First Five
                                    Jacomb

                                    Midfielder
                                    Lam
                                    Higgins
                                    McLeod
                                    Tupaea

                                    Outside Backs
                                    Perofeta
                                    Fihaki
                                    Tele’a
                                    Springer
                                    Nanai-Seturo

                                    Have heard there is an expectation that Withy will be named, which to me suggests Lakai in the top squad and there is no Cane, because I can't really see which other loose forward they would omit... maybe Suafoa?

                                    Have also heard J Taylor is in... keeping in mind ST is injured, and this is also a development side, to have him in there I don't think is ridiculous. Slater & Eklund probably ahead on ability, but neither of those are ever going to be ABs.

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                                    @frugby

                                    I watched Withy and he had a pretty good season but I'm not convinced he deserves to be there over the likes of Kirifi or Segner.

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                                      I still wonder if Xavier Roe's kicking game and tactical awareness merits a look. Scrag tackler though.

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                                        Looking at the dates of the games there is the opportunity to give the third AB halfback (i.e., Hotham) a game against Georgia. That could also apply to other AB squad players. It's not possible for the Munster game as that is the same day as the English test.

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                                          @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                          You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                          If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                          True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                          Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                          He's in ABs.

                                          Gallagher as a lock.

                                          Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                          You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                          They can always leave out Tuapea.

                                          None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                          Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                          Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                                          Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

                                          Marginal. Seen him listed at 6' 5", but can't trust what you read!

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                                          @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          Surely they take 5 props. Rakete-Stones was chosen last year as someone who could cover both sides.

                                          You may be right, but only taking 29, so I assume Ofa and Tosi will be available if required.

                                          If they are using this team for development there is no point selecting Harmon.

                                          True, but not sure who is the form NPC 7 and Kirifi not my kettle of fish.

                                          Which squad does Perofeta make?

                                          He's in ABs.

                                          Gallagher as a lock.

                                          Too small for international level. We need another 6' 5" big body who can play 6. If not Zach, maybe Simon Parker?

                                          You should have stuck with B Sullivan. 🙂

                                          They can always leave out Tuapea.

                                          None of the Highlanders forwards mentioned are listed.

                                          Haig fits the size model. Who are you thinking of?

                                          Bear in mind I've only seen Super rugby this year and a few NPC highlights!

                                          Gallagher is 6ft 6 and 115 kg not small for an international lock .

                                          Marginal. Seen him listed at 6' 5", but can't trust what you read!

                                          Nah he’s 6ft 6

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