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  • A African Monkey

    @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Bones

    Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

    My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

    I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

    I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

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    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Bones

    Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

    My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

    I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

    I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

    You'd hardly expect Anscombe, or anyone else in that situation, to say anything different though.

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    • A African Monkey

      @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @Bones

      Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

      My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

      I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

      I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

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      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @Bones

      Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

      My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

      I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

      I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

      Part African and part monkey too. That’s a real melting pot of cultures

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      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

        @brodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

        @frugby

        Sititi is an exciting talent but let's not forget that he struggled in the collisions against SA like he did in the Super Rugby final and in all those instances he was part of a losing team.

        He's stood out against Australia, done OK against SA as the game developed, and failed big time against Argentina. He was a big part of that Argentina loss giving away 3 penalties in 20 minutes.

        Sotutu is also a generational talent - arguably the most talented loose forward for creating tries in the last 10 years. Ultimately rugby is about scoring more tries.

        Yip when I think of generational talents, the names McCaw Carter Lomu and Sotutu roll off the tongue.

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        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:

        @brodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

        @frugby

        Sititi is an exciting talent but let's not forget that he struggled in the collisions against SA like he did in the Super Rugby final and in all those instances he was part of a losing team.

        He's stood out against Australia, done OK against SA as the game developed, and failed big time against Argentina. He was a big part of that Argentina loss giving away 3 penalties in 20 minutes.

        Sotutu is also a generational talent - arguably the most talented loose forward for creating tries in the last 10 years. Ultimately rugby is about scoring more tries.

        Yip when I think of generational loose forward try-creating talents, the names McCaw Carter Lomu and Sotutu roll off the tongue.

        Two were backs, one didn't create the tries directly himself, too busy being a GOAT.

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        • MN5M MN5

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

          @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

          @Bones

          Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

          My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

          I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

          I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

          Part African and part monkey too. That’s a real melting pot of cultures

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          African Monkey
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          #674

          @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

          @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

          @Bones

          Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

          My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

          I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

          I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

          Part African and part monkey too. That’s a real melting pot of cultures

          I knew as soon as I saw you pop up, something along these lines would be written haha.

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          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

            @Bones said in All Blacks EOYT:

            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks EOYT:

            @nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:

            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks EOYT:

            @Bones said in All Blacks EOYT:

            @Crazy-Horse like I said, a parent wouldn't be a loose tie for me, I'm pretty sure millions of others would share that view.

            Samoa, Tonga, etc would drop well down the rugby rankings if that wasn't the case too.

            Agree. But he already made his bed with NZ. That is my contention.

            Rugby wanted the Olympics funding ,,, so they sacrificed their eligibility rules. That's not on Sotutu. It allows capped players to play for origin countries - like Tonga. On balance, I don't think it's a terrible situation

            Yeah I wouldn't blame him if it was to come about. I would probably think long and hard about doing the same if I was in his position.

            Don't you live in Aussie these days? If so, how would you feel if your kid represented Australia, got shunned and so decided to represent your country of birth (if that's NZ)?

            Don't have kids or principles so I can only guess. I'd guess I would tell them to go for it if they so wished. Still don't think they should be allowed to if they had already played for Australia.

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            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks EOYT:

            Don't have kids or principles so I can only guess. I'd guess I would tell them to go for it if they so wished. Still don't think they should be allowed to if they had already played for Australia.

            Heh. For me, the more the number of kids, the more likely I'd have less principles.

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            • MN5M MN5

              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

              @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

              @Bones

              Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

              My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

              I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

              I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

              Part African and part monkey too. That’s a real melting pot of cultures

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              @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

              @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

              @Bones

              Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

              My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

              I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

              I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

              Part African and part monkey too. That’s a real melting pot of cultures

              No! You did NOT just call a half Samoan dude a monkey. That did not just happen!!

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              • A African Monkey

                @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                @Bones

                Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

                My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

                I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

                I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

                Part African and part monkey too. That’s a real melting pot of cultures

                I knew as soon as I saw you pop up, something along these lines would be written haha.

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                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

                I knew as soon as I saw you pop up, something along these lines would be written haha.

                Given MN5 sounds like someone tried to pronounce "enema" and missed, that was a ballsy hassle.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @Bones

                  Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

                  My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

                  I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

                  I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

                  Part African and part monkey too. That’s a real melting pot of cultures

                  No! You did NOT just call a half Samoan dude a monkey. That did not just happen!!

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                  African Monkey
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                  #678

                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @Bones

                  Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

                  My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

                  I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

                  I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

                  Part African and part monkey too. That’s a real melting pot of cultures

                  No! You did NOT just call a half Samoan dude a monkey. That did not just happen!!

                  Not gonna lie, I'm VERY offended.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

                    @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                    @Bones

                    Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

                    My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

                    I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

                    I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

                    Part African and part monkey too. That’s a real melting pot of cultures

                    No! You did NOT just call a half Samoan dude a monkey. That did not just happen!!

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                    #679

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                    @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

                    @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                    @Bones

                    Yeah, strange attitude, kids with multiple passports can have very strong attachments to both / multiple countries.

                    My boy considers himself equally a kiwi and japanese.

                    I'm half Samoan and proudly consider myself Kiwi and Samoan so yeah, everyone's different of course.

                    I remember Gareth Anscombe saying how he felt just as much of a connection to Wales growing up as his mother is Welsh after copping a bit of criticism for his Welsh call up, and I'm inclined to believe him being in a similar situation, and I assume Hoskins Sotutu would be in the same boat as someone like Anscombe so yeah, I don't see a problem with him changing allegiances.

                    Part African and part monkey too. That’s a real melting pot of cultures

                    No! You did NOT just call a half Samoan dude a monkey. That did not just happen!!

                    Hmmmmm, it does look offensive when you put it like that.

                    I didn’t make the connection though, I’m very insensitive sometimes.

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                      McCaw, Carter and Lomu are more than generational talents. They're GOATs of the game.

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                        Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

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                        • K KiwiInLondon

                          Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

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                          @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks EOYT:

                          Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

                          You could cut and paste some of the shit and write a book on it…..

                          “Hoskins Sotutu, the greatest All Black that pretty much never was….”

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks EOYT:

                            Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

                            You could cut and paste some of the shit and write a book on it…..

                            “Hoskins Sotutu, the greatest All Black that pretty much never was….”

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                            @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                            @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks EOYT:

                            Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

                            You could cut and paste some of the shit and write a book on it…..

                            “Hoskins Sotutu, the greatest All Black that pretty much never was….”

                            plenty of strawman action going on.

                            Worth a place in the squad and a try != bestest ever.

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks EOYT:

                              Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

                              You could cut and paste some of the shit and write a book on it…..

                              “Hoskins Sotutu, the greatest All Black that pretty much never was….”

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                              African Monkey
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                              @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                              @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks EOYT:

                              Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

                              You could cut and paste some of the shit and write a book on it…..

                              “Hoskins Sotutu, the greatest All Black that pretty much never was….”

                              Blackadder? Ngatai? Rob Thompson?

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                              • A African Monkey

                                @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

                                You could cut and paste some of the shit and write a book on it…..

                                “Hoskins Sotutu, the greatest All Black that pretty much never was….”

                                Blackadder? Ngatai? Rob Thompson?

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                                #685

                                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

                                You could cut and paste some of the shit and write a book on it…..

                                “Hoskins Sotutu, the greatest All Black that pretty much never was….”

                                Blackadder? Ngatai? Rob Thompson?

                                Sorry I’m not sure who the last one is ?

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                  Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

                                  You could cut and paste some of the shit and write a book on it…..

                                  “Hoskins Sotutu, the greatest All Black that pretty much never was….”

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                                  nostrildamus
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                                  #686

                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                  @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                  Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

                                  You could cut and paste some of the shit and write a book on it…..

                                  “Hoskins Sotutu, the greatest All Black that pretty much never was….”

                                  You mean Future England international rugby legend Sotutu?

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                    @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                    Is it possible to have a separate Hoskins thread for the endless mastabatory nonsense?

                                    You could cut and paste some of the shit and write a book on it…..

                                    “Hoskins Sotutu, the greatest All Black that pretty much never was….”

                                    Blackadder? Ngatai? Rob Thompson?

                                    Sorry I’m not sure who the last one is ?

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                                    nostrildamus
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                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                    Rob Thompson?
                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-anton-lienert-brown-vs-rob-thompson-epic-battle-suva/
                                    "Goodhue and Lienert-Brown have the current blessings of the selectors but Thompson cannot be far behind if he continues to build on this breakout year. He is sure to feature in the black jersey post-2019 if the 26-year-old stays around."

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      If true fuck off then, sooner rather than later if you'retaking up space for a promising young loosie who could be playing NPC, and don't let the door hit you on the arse.

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                                      DaGrubster
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                                      #688

                                      @booboo said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      If true fuck off then, sooner rather than later if you'retaking up space for a promising young loosie who could be playing NPC, and don't let the door hit you on the arse.

                                      I always had a sneaking suspicion you were tubby Ryan

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                                        Billy Tell
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                                        In news I didn’t see coming, Ireland has come out against 20 minute red cards. Irish rugby, as custodians of the game (quiet for the kicker now) are all about player welfare (except when Porter breaks Retallick’s jaw in an accidental absorbing tackle of course)

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                                          Thank god there a test next week huh fellas? We can maybe drop argiments over Sotutu etc and have a game to discuss? Mind you it has filled in time.

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