AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?
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Taking into account fitness today
- Moody
- Taylor
- Ofa
- Whitelock
- Tuipulotu
- Frizell
- Cane
- Savea
- Smith
- Mo'unga
- Clarke
- ALB
- Ioane
- Jordan
- J. Barrett
- Aumua
- Hodgman
- Laulala
- Parkinson
- MMT
- TJP
- B. Barrett
- Bridge
@Machpants looks pretty good, close to what is likely
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Is everyone forgetting about Tu'inukuafe? I know he has been injured but he is odds on to start at LH for the NI team, and if he returns to fitness and form would be a good option from the bench.
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I’m unsure about reiko in the midfield at international level ,
But I would still really like to see what it looks like
@kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I’m unsure about reiko in the midfield at international level ,
But I would still really like to see what it looks like
If Laumape is out for a while there is a good chance Rieko will now be at centre in the NI vs SI game. His combination with ALB in that game will be interesting to watch, thinking ahead to the ABs.
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1 Moody
2 Coles
3 Ofa T
4 Whitelock
5 Tuipulotu
6 Frizell
7 Cane
8 Savea
9 A. Smith
10 Mo'unga
11. Bridge
12 ALB
13 Goodhue
14 Reece
15 B. Barrett
16 Taylor
17. Hodgman
18. Laulala
19. Parkinson
20. Sotutu
21. TJP
22. J.Barrett
23 R. IaoneNot a whole lot different from World Cup, notable that Ardie must be in the side was tempted to have him at 7 and Cane at 6 but they can do that when Sotutu comes on. Mounga is the best 10 in NZ and then daylight. BB probably has to play himself out of the 15 jersey.
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After last night....
1 K. Tu’inukuafe
2 D. Coles
3 O. Tu’ungafasi
4 P. Tuipulotu
5 M. Dunshea
6 S. Frizell
7 S. Cane
8 A. Savea
9 A. Smith
10 T. Sader
11 R. Ioane
12 N. Laumape
13 A. Lienart-Brown
14 J. Barrett
15 B. Barrett -
ACT agree. It just has to be a 2 Barrett backline
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This was in yesterday's paper. Knowler ignoring Rieko. WTF?
Paul Cully’s All Blacks: Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Sam Cane (captain), Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Dane Coles, Ayden Johnstone, Tyrel Lomax, Pari Pari Parkinson, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Ngani Laumape, Jordie Barrett.
Marc Hinton’s All Blacks: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Sam Cane (c), Ardie Savea, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Codie Taylor, Aidan Ross, Nepo Laulala, Mitchell Dunshea, Shannon Frizell, TJ Perenara, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown.
Richard Knowler’s All Blacks: Will Jordan, Mark Telea, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Ardie Savea, Lachlan Boshier, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock (c), Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Dane Coles, Alex Hodgman, Tyrel Lomax, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, TJ Perenara, Anton Lienert-Brown, Beauden Barrett.
@Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
This was in yesterday's paper. Knowler ignoring Rieko. WTF?
Paul Cully’s All Blacks: Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Sam Cane (captain), Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Dane Coles, Ayden Johnstone, Tyrel Lomax, Pari Pari Parkinson, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Ngani Laumape, Jordie Barrett.
Marc Hinton’s All Blacks: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Sam Cane (c), Ardie Savea, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Codie Taylor, Aidan Ross, Nepo Laulala, Mitchell Dunshea, Shannon Frizell, TJ Perenara, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown.
Richard Knowler’s All Blacks: Will Jordan, Mark Telea, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Ardie Savea, Lachlan Boshier, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock (c), Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Dane Coles, Alex Hodgman, Tyrel Lomax, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, TJ Perenara, Anton Lienert-Brown, Beauden Barrett.
I had my little rant about Goodhue being solid but possibly a bit overrated at 13, and there was a bit of expected push back. But fuck me, if he is our best option at 12 then things are looking a bit shit for the year
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@Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
This was in yesterday's paper. Knowler ignoring Rieko. WTF?
Paul Cully’s All Blacks: Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Sam Cane (captain), Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Dane Coles, Ayden Johnstone, Tyrel Lomax, Pari Pari Parkinson, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Ngani Laumape, Jordie Barrett.
Marc Hinton’s All Blacks: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Sam Cane (c), Ardie Savea, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Codie Taylor, Aidan Ross, Nepo Laulala, Mitchell Dunshea, Shannon Frizell, TJ Perenara, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown.
Richard Knowler’s All Blacks: Will Jordan, Mark Telea, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Ardie Savea, Lachlan Boshier, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock (c), Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Dane Coles, Alex Hodgman, Tyrel Lomax, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, TJ Perenara, Anton Lienert-Brown, Beauden Barrett.
I had my little rant about Goodhue being solid but possibly a bit overrated at 13, and there was a bit of expected push back. But fuck me, if he is our best option at 12 then things are looking a bit shit for the year
@voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I had my little rant about Goodhue being solid but possibly a bit overrated at 13, and there was a bit of expected push back. But fuck me, if he is our best option at 12 then things are looking a bit shit for the year
But he plays for the crusaders - must be awesome, right?
I'm a huge Goodhue fan - but he's not been in good form this season I don't think. Particularly not at 12.
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@voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I had my little rant about Goodhue being solid but possibly a bit overrated at 13, and there was a bit of expected push back. But fuck me, if he is our best option at 12 then things are looking a bit shit for the year
But he plays for the crusaders - must be awesome, right?
I'm a huge Goodhue fan - but he's not been in good form this season I don't think. Particularly not at 12.
@nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
@voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I had my little rant about Goodhue being solid but possibly a bit overrated at 13, and there was a bit of expected push back. But fuck me, if he is our best option at 12 then things are looking a bit shit for the year
But he plays for the crusaders - must be awesome, right?
I'm a huge Goodhue fan - but he's not been in good form this season I don't think. Particularly not at 12.
I don't recall him playing 13 at all this year, certainly not in SRA.
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After last night....
1 K. Tu’inukuafe
2 D. Coles
3 O. Tu’ungafasi
4 P. Tuipulotu
5 M. Dunshea
6 S. Frizell
7 S. Cane
8 A. Savea
9 A. Smith
10 T. Sader
11 R. Ioane
12 N. Laumape
13 A. Lienart-Brown
14 J. Barrett
15 B. Barrett@ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
After last night....
1 K. Tu’inukuafe
2 D. Coles
3 O. Tu’ungafasi
4 P. Tuipulotu
5 M. Dunshea
6 S. Frizell
7 S. Cane
8 A. Savea
9 A. Smith
10 T. Sader
11 R. Ioane
12 N. Laumape
13 A. Lienart-Brown
14 J. Barrett
15 B. BarrettWho are you and how did you get @ACT-Crusader 's password? Only 2?
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@Tim Most interesting comment in that is
"We have lots of guys who are a good physical size, who are great toilers who roll their sleeves up and get stuck in but in our view we can’t have everybody of the same ilk.
“We needs some contrast in that.’’
To me that reads that they are really looking for a Whitelock replacement or a ball playing lock.
Guzzler was both a lump and a ball player.
I agree that options are limited at the moment. TripleP is improving but needs to add more strings to his bow. Looks like we may have to squeeze as much out of Sam as possible.
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@Tim Most interesting comment in that is
"We have lots of guys who are a good physical size, who are great toilers who roll their sleeves up and get stuck in but in our view we can’t have everybody of the same ilk.
“We needs some contrast in that.’’
To me that reads that they are really looking for a Whitelock replacement or a ball playing lock.
Guzzler was both a lump and a ball player.
I agree that options are limited at the moment. TripleP is improving but needs to add more strings to his bow. Looks like we may have to squeeze as much out of Sam as possible.
@Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
@Tim Most interesting comment in that is
"We have lots of guys who are a good physical size, who are great toilers who roll their sleeves up and get stuck in but in our view we can’t have everybody of the same ilk.
“We needs some contrast in that.’’
To me that reads that they are really looking for a Whitelock replacement or a ball playing lock.
Guzzler was both a lump and a ball player.
I agree that options are limited at the moment. TripleP is improving but needs to add more strings to his bow. Looks like we may have to squeeze as much out of Sam as possible.
Just realised when re-reading that quote. Foxy has turned into Gollum!
"We needs a new lock. A precious new lock"
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I've always thought of Whitelock as an aerial lock. That is, excellent in the lineout and with kickoff receptions. But he has never been a ball-carrying lock who gets you consistent metres in the trenches. Even Aust gets more out of their locks in this area than the ABs do. I'd take a punt on Parkinson as he is the closest to that type of player.
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@Tim Most interesting comment in that is
"We have lots of guys who are a good physical size, who are great toilers who roll their sleeves up and get stuck in but in our view we can’t have everybody of the same ilk.
“We needs some contrast in that.’’
To me that reads that they are really looking for a Whitelock replacement or a ball playing lock.
Guzzler was both a lump and a ball player.
I agree that options are limited at the moment. TripleP is improving but needs to add more strings to his bow. Looks like we may have to squeeze as much out of Sam as possible.
@Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
Guzzler was both a lump and a ball player.
who is Guzzler?
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I've always thought of Whitelock as an aerial lock. That is, excellent in the lineout and with kickoff receptions. But he has never been a ball-carrying lock who gets you consistent metres in the trenches. Even Aust gets more out of their locks in this area than the ABs do. I'd take a punt on Parkinson as he is the closest to that type of player.
@Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I've always thought of Whitelock as an aerial lock. That is, excellent in the lineout and with kickoff receptions. But he has never been a ball-carrying lock who gets you consistent metres in the trenches. Even Aust gets more out of their locks in this area than the ABs do. I'd take a punt on Parkinson as he is the closest to that type of player.
that's what you need. A decade and a half ago the Boks had it absolutely sorted with Matfield and Botha. And nothing has changed since then.
If you get one that can do both you are in business.
