All Blacks 2022
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.
Any surprises?
Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman
Both LHs.
If, hypothetically, JB is used at 12 and Jordan goes to fullback, then Ioane might have to move to the right wing again. There are more options for a power left winger than right wingers.
@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
@Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone
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@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
@Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
@Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone
RI is in an AB break, not injured.
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@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
@Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
Rieko isn't.
If you are only selecting fit players as of now, scratch BBBR too.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.
At the very least he’s a clear third choice that’s worth a look at the next level. After that clutch kick, his goal kicking has been disappointing but the rest of his game has been great. All the time in the world.
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.
At the very least he’s a clear third choice that’s worth a look at the next level. After that clutch kick, his goal kicking has been disappointing but the rest of his game has been great. All the time in the world.
I like him but I honestly can't recall him getting too many opportunities to show what he can do against the better teams. Hopefully he gets the chance soon.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
Rieko isn't.
If you are only selecting fit players as of now, scratch BBBR too.
@bovidae I thought Ioane was, didn't realise BBBR was.
So then is Vaai and SB locking then...
I'd push ALB to 12 and Ioane to 13 then.
Would like to find a spot for Leicester, but can't see him pushing out Reece/Ioane/Jordie or even Bridge
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@kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.
At the very least he’s a clear third choice that’s worth a look at the next level. After that clutch kick, his goal kicking has been disappointing but the rest of his game has been great. All the time in the world.
I like him but I honestly can't recall him getting too many opportunities to show what he can do against the better teams. Hopefully he gets the chance soon.
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@bovidae I thought Ioane was, didn't realise BBBR was.
So then is Vaai and SB locking then...
I'd push ALB to 12 and Ioane to 13 then.
Would like to find a spot for Leicester, but can't see him pushing out Reece/Ioane/Jordie or even Bridge
for a wing spot.@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
I'd push ALB to 12 and Ioane to 13 then.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Foster give Havili one more run-out at 12 to see how he goes, after hopefully working n his game, and then go for that option if it doesn't work out. Reiko then has enough time to settle in at 13 before RWC2023.
We'd really be screwed if we didn't have ALB available at 12 or 13.
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@crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.
@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.
Agree, I enjoy watching him play. I just think it would be good to see him start at 10 against the better teams. I stand to be corrected but my memory tells me he has mostly been at 15, with a change to 10 later in the game (MP aside).
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@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.
Agree, I enjoy watching him play. I just think it would be good to see him start at 10 against the better teams. I stand to be corrected but my memory tells me he has mostly been at 15, with a change to 10 later in the game (MP aside).
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@crazy-horse He definitely needs to demonstrate game management against better good teams. That said, he seems to have improved at 10 this year.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.
Agree, I enjoy watching him play. I just think it would be good to see him start at 10 against the better teams. I stand to be corrected but my memory tells me he has mostly been at 15, with a change to 10 later in the game (MP aside).
@crazy-horse yeah would be good to see him do it against the chiefs and hurricanes too
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I don't have access to NZ Herald subscription, but who are the players Gregor Paul is referring to here; https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-two-young-players-a-beacon-of-hope-for-all-blacks-rugby-world-cup-chances/DCH4A7E7GAUNNGW2KLLNPYWRVM/
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I don't have access to NZ Herald subscription, but who are the players Gregor Paul is referring to here; https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-two-young-players-a-beacon-of-hope-for-all-blacks-rugby-world-cup-chances/DCH4A7E7GAUNNGW2KLLNPYWRVM/
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
I don't have access to NZ Herald subscription, but who are the players Gregor Paul is referring to here; https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-two-young-players-a-beacon-of-hope-for-all-blacks-rugby-world-cup-chances/DCH4A7E7GAUNNGW2KLLNPYWRVM/
Fletcher Newell and Ethan de Groot.
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@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
I don't have access to NZ Herald subscription, but who are the players Gregor Paul is referring to here; https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-two-young-players-a-beacon-of-hope-for-all-blacks-rugby-world-cup-chances/DCH4A7E7GAUNNGW2KLLNPYWRVM/
Fletcher Newell and Ethan de Groot.
@victor-meldrew He also mentions Hodgman for selection.
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I've been on record that I think Newel is the future, for quite a while, however I don't think he'll get a go until post WC. However, both DeGroot and especially Hodgman should get chances this year. Some of Hodgman's passing and work around the field has been excellent lately.
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The options at LH are greater than those at TH. If we cull both Laulala and Ta'avao then is Lomax really the answer? He didn't do himself any favours with his scrummaging yesterday. So then it becomes Ofa and who else? I guess this is a long answer to saying that the need to find one or two new THs is more important.
BTW, for anyone that has the Blues-MP game recorded can they check who packed on what side of the scrum when Ofa and Karl were playing together. A mate of mine said that Karl was on the TH side and Ofa remained on the LH. I wasn't looking close enough to notice. Interesting if true.
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The options at LH are greater than those at TH. If we cull both Laulala and Ta'avao then is Lomax really the answer? He didn't do himself any favours with his scrummaging yesterday. So then it becomes Ofa and who else? I guess this is a long answer to saying that the need to find one or two new THs is more important.
BTW, for anyone that has the Blues-MP game recorded can they check who packed on what side of the scrum when Ofa and Karl were playing together. A mate of mine said that Karl was on the TH side and Ofa remained on the LH. I wasn't looking close enough to notice. Interesting if true.
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The options at LH are greater than those at TH. If we cull both Laulala and Ta'avao then is Lomax really the answer? He didn't do himself any favours with his scrummaging yesterday. So then it becomes Ofa and who else? I guess this is a long answer to saying that the need to find one or two new THs is more important.
BTW, for anyone that has the Blues-MP game recorded can they check who packed on what side of the scrum when Ofa and Karl were playing together. A mate of mine said that Karl was on the TH side and Ofa remained on the LH. I wasn't looking close enough to notice. Interesting if true.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
The options at LH are greater than those at TH. If we cull both Laulala and Ta'avao then is Lomax really the answer? He didn't do himself any favours with his scrummaging yesterday. So then it becomes Ofa and who else? I guess this is a long answer to saying that the need to find one or two new THs is more important.
BTW, for anyone that has the Blues-MP game recorded can they check who packed on what side of the scrum when Ofa and Karl were playing together. A mate of mine said that Karl was on the TH side and Ofa remained on the LH. I wasn't looking close enough to notice. Interesting if true.
Karl was at LH here when they won the penalty in the 72nd minute (sorry, screen shot won't load).
BTW, I think we should drop Laulala but Idon't think they will. If they did that, We'd have Ofa starting, then Lomax and Newell or Williams (who can play both sides).
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
The options at LH are greater than those at TH. If we cull both Laulala and Ta'avao then is Lomax really the answer? He didn't do himself any favours with his scrummaging yesterday. So then it becomes Ofa and who else? I guess this is a long answer to saying that the need to find one or two new THs is more important.
BTW, for anyone that has the Blues-MP game recorded can they check who packed on what side of the scrum when Ofa and Karl were playing together. A mate of mine said that Karl was on the TH side and Ofa remained on the LH. I wasn't looking close enough to notice. Interesting if true.
Karl was at LH here when they won the penalty in the 72nd minute (sorry, screen shot won't load).
BTW, I think we should drop Laulala but Idon't think they will. If they did that, We'd have Ofa starting, then Lomax and Newell or Williams (who can play both sides).
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@gt12 I was looking at the mid-week Blues-MP game - Karl definitely came on at tighthead for the last 3 minutes or so (after Laulala's red card had elapsed).
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 I was looking at the mid-week Blues-MP game - Karl definitely came on at tighthead for the last 3 minutes or so (after Laulala's red card had elapsed).
I was checking that too. Yep, he was at TH that day in 18 but that was with Fusitua.
