Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

All Blacks 2024

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
allblacks
7.4k Posts 135 Posters 668.7k Views 4 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    The most concerning thing for me about Robertson wanting Havili at 10 is that he still seems to think Havili is a test quality player. He isn't, he never has been, and he has been ruthlessly exploited by the top teams time and again. There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.

    Victor MeldrewV Offline
    Victor MeldrewV Offline
    Victor Meldrew
    wrote on last edited by
    #1823

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.

    Which is why I think he'll be very conservative in his first few Tests. Good to see the AB coaching set-up and SR coaches working together though.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

      I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

      Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

      gt12G Offline
      gt12G Offline
      gt12
      wrote on last edited by
      #1824

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

      I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

      Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

      I'm taking odds on Drummond.

      antipodeanA Victor MeldrewV 2 Replies Last reply
      7
      • gt12G gt12

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

        I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

        Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

        I'm taking odds on Drummond.

        antipodeanA Offline
        antipodeanA Offline
        antipodean
        wrote on last edited by
        #1825

        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

        I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

        Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

        I'm taking odds on Drummond.

        alt text

        1 Reply Last reply
        4
        • gt12G gt12

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

          I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

          Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

          I'm taking odds on Drummond.

          Victor MeldrewV Offline
          Victor MeldrewV Offline
          Victor Meldrew
          wrote on last edited by Victor Meldrew
          #1826

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

          I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

          Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

          I'm taking odds on Drummond.

          Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

          MN5M Canes4lifeC 2 Replies Last reply
          0
          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

            I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

            Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

            I'm taking odds on Drummond.

            Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

            MN5M Offline
            MN5M Offline
            MN5
            wrote on last edited by
            #1827

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

            I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

            Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

            I'm taking odds on Drummond.

            Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

            ….and thats hopefully why he doesn’t pick him.

            1 Reply Last reply
            2
            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

              I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

              Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

              I'm taking odds on Drummond.

              Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

              Canes4lifeC Offline
              Canes4lifeC Offline
              Canes4life
              wrote on last edited by
              #1828

              @Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

              There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

              A Victor MeldrewV 2 Replies Last reply
              4
              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

                A Offline
                A Offline
                African Monkey
                wrote on last edited by
                #1829

                @Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.

                gt12G 1 Reply Last reply
                5
                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                  There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

                  Victor MeldrewV Offline
                  Victor MeldrewV Offline
                  Victor Meldrew
                  wrote on last edited by Victor Meldrew
                  #1830

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Victor-Meldrew
                  the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                  Well, I was being ironic.....

                  There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

                  .....Imagine a Drummond/Havili axis.....

                  BovidaeB 1 Reply Last reply
                  1
                  • mariner4lifeM Offline
                    mariner4lifeM Offline
                    mariner4life
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1831

                    I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

                    Victor MeldrewV BonesB sparkyS 3 Replies Last reply
                    7
                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

                      Victor MeldrewV Offline
                      Victor MeldrewV Offline
                      Victor Meldrew
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1832

                      @mariner4life

                      Feet under the table first few Tests, then absolutely.

                      F 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

                        BonesB Offline
                        BonesB Offline
                        Bones
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1833

                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

                        Yeah, if guys like Proctor, Ratima, Finau, any other lock than Vaai are ignored for "known quantities" that will be shithouse.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        1
                        • A African Monkey

                          @Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.

                          gt12G Offline
                          gt12G Offline
                          gt12
                          wrote on last edited by gt12
                          #1834

                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.

                          It’s fun now.

                          A 1 Reply Last reply
                          3
                          • gt12G gt12

                            @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.

                            It’s fun now.

                            A Offline
                            A Offline
                            African Monkey
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1835

                            @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                            Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for they year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                            gt12G 1 Reply Last reply
                            10
                            • A African Monkey

                              @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                              Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for they year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                              gt12G Offline
                              gt12G Offline
                              gt12
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1836

                              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                              Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                              It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

                              BonesB boobooB 2 Replies Last reply
                              3
                              • gt12G gt12

                                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                                Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                                It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

                                BonesB Offline
                                BonesB Offline
                                Bones
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1837

                                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                                Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                                It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

                                Foster thread only got locked this year didn't it?

                                gt12G 1 Reply Last reply
                                3
                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                                  Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                                  It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

                                  Foster thread only got locked this year didn't it?

                                  gt12G Offline
                                  gt12G Offline
                                  gt12
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1838

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                                  Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                                  It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

                                  Foster thread only got locked this year didn't it?

                                  That was just an entree compared to test selections during Crusader-blacks or when the Cantabs packed a sad and supported Oz under Robbie Deans.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • KiwiMurphK Offline
                                    KiwiMurphK Offline
                                    KiwiMurph
                                    wrote on last edited by KiwiMurph
                                    #1839

                                    I'll give Razor a pass if he's conservative in his first couple of squads.

                                    It look Henry, Hansen and Smith the best part of a year to figure out their best team

                                    The first couple of squads in 2004 had the likes of Xavier Rush and Jono Gibbes etc - excellent Super servants but not answers at test level over the long haul.

                                    A 1 Reply Last reply
                                    7
                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew
                                      the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                                      Well, I was being ironic.....

                                      There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

                                      .....Imagine a Drummond/Havili axis.....

                                      BovidaeB Offline
                                      BovidaeB Offline
                                      Bovidae
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1840

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      .....Imagine a Drummond/Havili axis.....

                                      @ACT-Crusader can give you the 2024 version of the ABs. The next player on the list is obviously McLeod.

                                      BonesB 1 Reply Last reply
                                      1
                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        .....Imagine a Drummond/Havili axis.....

                                        @ACT-Crusader can give you the 2024 version of the ABs. The next player on the list is obviously McLeod.

                                        BonesB Offline
                                        BonesB Offline
                                        Bones
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1841

                                        @Bovidae Aumua, Jordan, Reece

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          I'll give Razor a pass if he's conservative in his first couple of squads.

                                          It look Henry, Hansen and Smith the best part of a year to figure out their best team

                                          The first couple of squads in 2004 had the likes of Xavier Rush and Jono Gibbes etc - excellent Super servants but not answers at test level over the long haul.

                                          A Offline
                                          A Offline
                                          African Monkey
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1842

                                          @KiwiMurph Yeah the start of every World Cup cycle has a few random players in there.

                                          Even the last one had guys like Alex Hodgman, Peter Umaga-Jensen and Cullen Grace capped with guys like Du'Plessis Kirifi, Quentin Strange and Mitch Dunshea in the squad that season.

                                          Fair to say that those last 3 mentioned probably would have been capped if it wasn't a covid disrupted year.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          2
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search