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All Blacks vs England 2

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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    Positives:
    BB
    Paps
    Scrum
    Goal kicking
    Vaai
    Perofeta
    Ball retention

    There's not a lot to moan about

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    Crazy Horse
    wrote on last edited by
    #1555

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Positives:
    BB
    Paps
    Scrum
    Goal kicking
    Vaai
    Perofeta
    Ball retention

    There's not a lot to moan about

    I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

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    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

      Positives:
      BB
      Paps
      Scrum
      Goal kicking
      Vaai
      Perofeta
      Ball retention

      There's not a lot to moan about

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      wrote on last edited by sparky
      #1556

      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

      Positives:
      BB
      Paps
      Scrum
      Goal kicking
      Vaai
      Perofeta
      Ball retention

      There's not a lot to moan about

      Negatives:

      Lineout
      Restarts
      Ball Carrying
      Kick Defence

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      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        Positives:
        BB
        Paps
        Scrum
        Goal kicking
        Vaai
        Perofeta
        Ball retention

        There's not a lot to moan about

        I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

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        #1557

        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        Positives:
        BB
        Paps
        Scrum
        Goal kicking
        Vaai
        Perofeta
        Ball retention

        There's not a lot to moan about

        I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

        I'm a bit sceptical the whole mind-set has changed and all those years of struggling to win when not playing well and under pressure have been vanquished after 3 weeks and 2 Tests together.

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          I personally would distinguish between the pre and post Schmidt Ryan - Foster eras, very different coaching teams and results.

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          #1558

          @nostrildamus

          Yup, even though Foz was retained after the SA win he was effectively replaced by Schmidt.

          Foz was basically an a mascot by the time the World Cup came round

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            Positives:
            BB
            Paps
            Scrum
            Goal kicking
            Vaai
            Perofeta
            Ball retention

            There's not a lot to moan about

            I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

            I'm a bit sceptical the whole mind-set has changed and all those years of struggling to win when not playing well and under pressure have been vanquished after 3 weeks and 2 Tests together.

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            Crazy Horse
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            #1559

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            Positives:
            BB
            Paps
            Scrum
            Goal kicking
            Vaai
            Perofeta
            Ball retention

            There's not a lot to moan about

            I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

            I'm a bit sceptical the whole mind-set has changed and all those years of struggling to win when not playing well and under pressure have been vanquished after 3 weeks and 2 Tests together.

            I didn't say anything has been vanquished...

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              #1560

              Restarts will be fixed

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                BerniesCorner
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                #1561

                6,8 is a head scratcher.

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                  BerniesCorner
                  wrote on last edited by BerniesCorner
                  #1562

                  Next game see what Sititi and Proctor can do

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

                    Agreed.

                    Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

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                    Catogrande
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                    #1563

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

                    Agreed.

                    Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

                    That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.

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                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

                      Agreed.

                      Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

                      That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.

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                      #1564

                      @Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

                      Agreed.

                      Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

                      That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.

                      wil you lend us your 9 then? Much appreciated, old chap!

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                        Winger
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                        #1565

                        So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                        Perofeta has been poor
                        Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                        Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                        Christie is only adequate

                        Taylor is having a poor game

                        Lineout is shit

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                        • WingerW Winger

                          So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                          Perofeta has been poor
                          Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                          Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                          Christie is only adequate

                          Taylor is having a poor game

                          Lineout is shit

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                          MN5
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                          #1566

                          @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                          So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                          Perofeta has been poor
                          Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                          Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                          Christie is only adequate

                          Taylor is having a poor game

                          Lineout is shit

                          Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                            Perofeta has been poor
                            Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                            Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                            Christie is only adequate

                            Taylor is having a poor game

                            Lineout is shit

                            Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

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                            Winger
                            wrote on last edited by Winger
                            #1567

                            @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                            Perofeta has been poor
                            Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                            Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                            Christie is only adequate

                            Taylor is having a poor game

                            Lineout is shit

                            Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

                            Having replacements come on for Reiko, Perofeta and Christie made the difference

                            This backline was poorly selected. Reiko if he starts should be on the wing along with Clarke. Barrett is a good sub but who else is there for FB unless they bring Love in. Perofeta isn't the answer at FB

                            Either ALB or Proctor at centre (both can pass). Ratima starts at HB and find another no 2 if Perenara is still injured.

                            Taylor had a poor game. Coaches need to take him off earlier and give Aumua more game time when this occurs

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                            • WingerW Winger

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                              Perofeta has been poor
                              Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                              Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                              Christie is only adequate

                              Taylor is having a poor game

                              Lineout is shit

                              Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

                              Having replacements come on for Reiko, Perofeta and Christie made the difference

                              This backline was poorly selected. Reiko if he starts should be on the wing along with Clarke. Barrett is a good sub but who else is there for FB unless they bring Love in. Perofeta isn't the answer at FB

                              Either ALB or Proctor at centre (both can pass). Ratima starts at HB and find another no 2 if Perenara is still injured.

                              Taylor had a poor game. Coaches need to take him off earlier and give Aumua more game time when this occurs

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                              #1568

                              @Winger I'd prefer Reiko on the wing

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                                BerniesCorner
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                                #1569

                                We've kinda got a bomb squad now

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                                • chimoausC chimoaus

                                  Biggest concern is our inability to control half way. Our exits and ability to get into the opposition half has been a weakness for all ABs teams of recent years.

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                                  #1570

                                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  Biggest concern is our inability to control half way. Our exits and ability to get into the opposition half has been a weakness for all ABs teams of recent years.

                                  It baffles me that this remains the case when we have a 10 and 12 who both have cannons for their right legs. It's less about execution than it is about option taking.

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.

                                    The calls constantly come from people who have no idea how a centre should play. Dollars to donuts if he'd taken other options every time they complained they'd bitch about the predictable outcome too. Case in point when he made the good decision to hold the ball rather than shovel it to marked players in worse positions.

                                    I thought his defence was outstanding.

                                    Great, the modern day Justin Marshall. Pity the rest of the team has the skill to burn other teams when we can play with pace. If defence is what we want in that position, get another loose forward on.

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                                    #1571

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.

                                    The calls constantly come from people who have no idea how a centre should play. Dollars to donuts if he'd taken other options every time they complained they'd bitch about the predictable outcome too. Case in point when he made the good decision to hold the ball rather than shovel it to marked players in worse positions.

                                    I thought his defence was outstanding.

                                    Great, the modern day Justin Marshall. Pity the rest of the team has the skill to burn other teams when we can play with pace. If defence is what we want in that position, get another loose forward on.

                                    At least Marshy had a running game...

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1572

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                      If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

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                                      • J junior

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                        If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

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                                        #1573

                                        @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                        If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                        I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                          If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                          I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                          If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                          I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

                                          A long way ahead to be making predictions. Ever thought of writing for Ruck.com?

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