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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

    Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

    Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

    That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

    I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

    At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

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    African Monkey
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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

    Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

    Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

    That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

    I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

    At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

    Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

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    • A African Monkey

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

      @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

      Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

      Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

      That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

      I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

      At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

      Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

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      #832

      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

      @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

      Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

      Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

      That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

      I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

      At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

      Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

      Winning the easy ones. Flat track bullies.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @brodean said in All Blacks v Japan:

        @Chris-B

        Riccitelli is the same weight as Taylor.

        Yes.

        Watch him get interviewed by Jeff Wilson and Google will tell you he's nearly as tall as Jeff.

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        Bovidae
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        @Chris-B Most of the NZ hookers aren't tall (< 1.83 m), and that includes those in the ABs. Some are obviously much bigger/heavier than others (ST). It's why Thompson could have been an interesting long-term option as he is a similar build to Marx. Slater is also on the taller side (1.86 m).

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        • A African Monkey

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

          @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

          Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

          Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

          That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

          I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

          At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

          Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

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          Victor Meldrew
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          #834

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

          @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

          Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

          Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

          That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

          I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

          At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

          Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

          Yep, we're really on a roll. Even put 20 points on the 10th placed Test team a few weeks back...

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            My dear, In the midst of hate, I found there was, within me, an invincible love. In the midst of tears, I found there was, within me, an invincible smile. In the midst of chaos, I found there was, within me, an invincible calm. I realized, through it all, that… In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer. And that makes me happy. For it says that no matter how hard the world pushes against me, within me, there’s something stronger – something better, pushing right back. Truly yours, Albert Camus

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

              @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

              Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

              Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

              That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

              I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

              At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

              Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

              Yep, we're really on a roll. Even put 20 points on the 10th placed Test team a few weeks back...

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              #836

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

              @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

              Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

              Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

              That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

              I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

              At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

              Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

              Yep, we're really on a roll. Even put 20 points on the 10th placed Test team a few weeks back...

              Spain, Portugal, Romania and Wales will be breathing a sigh of relief that we won't get our hands on them!

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @Chris-B Most of the NZ hookers aren't tall (< 1.83 m), and that includes those in the ABs. Some are obviously much bigger/heavier than others (ST). It's why Thompson could have been an interesting long-term option as he is a similar build to Marx. Slater is also on the taller side (1.86 m).

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                Chris B.
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                #837

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Japan:

                @Chris-B Most of the NZ hookers aren't tall (< 1.83 m), and that includes those in the ABs. Some are obviously much bigger/heavier than others (ST). It's why Thompson could have been an interesting long-term option as he is a similar build to Marx. Slater is also on the taller side (1.86 m).

                I'm all for it - taller and bigger hookers.

                But the coaches have told us for years that they try to pack on as much as weight as possible - especially in the tight forwards - without compromising performance elsewhere.

                The harsh reality is that you can't make short hookers much bigger. That's a huge problem for Ricky and Kurt - among others.

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                • P pakman

                  My dear, In the midst of hate, I found there was, within me, an invincible love. In the midst of tears, I found there was, within me, an invincible smile. In the midst of chaos, I found there was, within me, an invincible calm. I realized, through it all, that… In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer. And that makes me happy. For it says that no matter how hard the world pushes against me, within me, there’s something stronger – something better, pushing right back. Truly yours, Albert Camus

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                  nostrildamus
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                  @pakman said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  My dear, In the midst of hate, I found there was, within me, an invincible love. In the midst of tears, I found there was, within me, an invincible smile. In the midst of chaos, I found there was, within me, an invincible calm. I realized, through it all, that… In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer. And that makes me happy. For it says that no matter how hard the world pushes against me, within me, there’s something stronger – something better, pushing right back. Truly yours, Albert Camus

                  I guess that rules out England for Hoskins.

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

                    Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

                    Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

                    That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

                    I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

                    At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

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                    nostrildamus
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                    #839

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                    That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

                    I am not convinced he is the man for the present.

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                      @canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:

                      @MN5 Who the hell wrote that jizz soaked drivel?

                      AI

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                      Victor Meldrew
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                      @nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:

                      @MN5 Who the hell wrote that jizz soaked drivel?

                      AI

                      Either that or trawl thru the old Foster v Razor threads

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                        nostrildamus
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                        Creevy was apparently 1.81 metres tall.

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

                          I am not convinced he is the man for the present.

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                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

                          I am not convinced he is the man for the present.

                          Weirdest selection of the lot. Zero logic.

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                          • A African Monkey

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

                            Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

                            Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

                            That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

                            I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

                            At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

                            Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

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                            sparky
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                            #843

                            @African-Monkey

                            Against Australia and Japan. The sides ranked 10th and 14th in the world. Wippee-do!

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                            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

                              Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

                              Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

                              That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

                              I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

                              At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

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                              Chris B.
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                              #844

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                              And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

                              I don't expect Dave to make the next RWC either.

                              But for now, the third best second five that's not him hasn't yet stamped his mark, so in the meantime I'm happy enough to have him there.

                              They're going to pick Jordie, Reiko and ALB for the next three tests, barring injury - and Dave and Proctor seem like the next best cover to me.

                              We can play another round of Super mrugby and see who stamps themselves in.

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                                nostrildamus
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                                #845

                                "the third best second five"

                                Still waiting for them to select A J Lam...

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  "the third best second five"

                                  Still waiting for them to select A J Lam...

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                                  #846

                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                  "the third best second five"

                                  Still waiting for them to select A J Lam...

                                  How many Super matches has AJ started at 12?

                                  Is it more the 17 tests Dave has started at 12?

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                    "the third best second five"

                                    Still waiting for them to select A J Lam...

                                    How many Super matches has AJ started at 12?

                                    Is it more the 17 tests Dave has started at 12?

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                                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                    "the third best second five"

                                    Still waiting for them to select A J Lam...

                                    How many Super matches has AJ started at 12?

                                    Is it more the 17 tests Dave has started ?

                                    Lam started at 12 in the business end of Super Rugby and he was amongst the best players on the field.

                                    Lam even looked excellent at 12 for the shithouse Auckland npc team.

                                    It looks like a spot that suits his game.

                                    He showed enough a decent selector would have given him a crack.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      "the third best second five"

                                      Still waiting for them to select A J Lam...

                                      How many Super matches has AJ started at 12?

                                      Is it more the 17 tests Dave has started ?

                                      Lam started at 12 in the business end of Super Rugby and he was amongst the best players on the field.

                                      Lam even looked excellent at 12 for the shithouse Auckland npc team.

                                      It looks like a spot that suits his game.

                                      He showed enough a decent selector would have given him a crack.

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      "the third best second five"

                                      Still waiting for them to select A J Lam...

                                      How many Super matches has AJ started at 12?

                                      Is it more the 17 tests Dave has started ?

                                      Lam started at 12 in the business end of Super Rugby and he was amongst the best players on the field.

                                      Lam even looked excellent at 12 for the shithouse Auckland npc team.

                                      It looks like a spot that suits his game.

                                      He showed enough a decent selector would have given him a crack.

                                      I don't think I'm going out on a limb here to say the average fan would be a lot more forgiving if we lost due to giving Lam a try over giving Havili a try.

                                      But of course that wouldn't suit CB's narrative so we can ignore the more obvious example.

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        "the third best second five"

                                        Still waiting for them to select A J Lam...

                                        How many Super matches has AJ started at 12?

                                        Is it more the 17 tests Dave has started at 12?

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                                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        "the third best second five"

                                        Still waiting for them to select A J Lam...

                                        How many Super matches has AJ started at 12?

                                        Is it more the 17 tests Dave has started at 12?

                                        Has hes started 17 tests at 12?!?

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                                          David Havili hitting the touchie with a cut out pass should be his last act in Black to be fair.

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