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All Blacks v Argentina II

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  • Dan54D Away
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    I only got about 10 while just looking at this, not going to go away and think about it, so you beat me boo.

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      Bugger me. I only pointed out Taylor got some serious shit on here a few years back and is a classic example of the Fern motto. But as you want some context, the motto is.....,.....

      Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight, Wrong about pretty much everything

      I know it is extremely unusual, but the fern was actually correct (perhaps not insightful because everyone knew he wasn't going well). Taylor was rightly called out here a few years back. That doesn't mean we can revise the history of his poor run of form and say that it didn't happen because he is good again now.

      Anyway, awesome achievement to get to 100 tests.

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      @Snowy said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      Bugger me. I only pointed out Taylor got some serious shit on here a few years back and is a classic example of the Fern motto. But as you want some context, the motto is.....,.....

      Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight, Wrong about pretty much everything

      I know it is extremely unusual, but the fern was actually correct (perhaps not insightful because everyone knew he wasn't going well). Taylor was rightly called out here a few years back. That doesn't mean we can revise the history of his poor run of form and say that it didn't happen because he is good again now.

      Anyway, awesome achievement to get to 100 tests.

      He was, he had an awful run in around 2020-2022, he deserved to be called out for it and I thought he was finished then. He's come back well.

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      • boobooB booboo

        Devlin dropped a thing on X challenging peeps to name the other 13 Centurions in 2mins without googling..

        I got 12. Git stuck on the latest. Oops.

        Now a challenge for the Frrn: No need to list them, but gives us your numbers.

        Booboo: 12/13

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        @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        Devlin dropped a thing on X challenging peeps to name the other 13 Centurions in 2mins without googling..

        I got 12. Git stuck on the latest. Oops.

        Now a challenge for the Frrn: No need to list them, but gives us your numbers.

        Booboo: 12/13

        12 also and then had Coles there incorrectly as my 13th guess.

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          The three I missed were all front rowers which probably speaks volumes about how much I pay attention to them while watching.

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            #221

            It was actually difficult to find a comprehensive list. Top 10 were on Wiki.

            I've put the list with spoilers...

            1 Sam Whitelock Lock 2010–2023 153
            2 Richie McCaw Flanker 2001–2015 148
            3 Beauden Barrett Fly-half 2012– 137
            4 Keven Mealamu Hooker 2002–2015 132
            5 Kieran Read Number 8 2008–2019 127
            6 Aaron Smith Scrum-half 2012–2023 125
            7 Tony Woodcock Prop 2002–2015 118
            8 Dan Carter Fly-half 2003–2015 112
            9 Brodie Retallick Lock 2012–2023 109
            10 Owen Franks Prop 2009–2019 108
            11 Sam Cane 104
            12 Ma'a Nonu 103
            13 Malili Muliaina 100

            But feel free to measure yourself.

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            • boobooB booboo

              It was actually difficult to find a comprehensive list. Top 10 were on Wiki.

              I've put the list with spoilers...

              1 Sam Whitelock Lock 2010–2023 153
              2 Richie McCaw Flanker 2001–2015 148
              3 Beauden Barrett Fly-half 2012– 137
              4 Keven Mealamu Hooker 2002–2015 132
              5 Kieran Read Number 8 2008–2019 127
              6 Aaron Smith Scrum-half 2012–2023 125
              7 Tony Woodcock Prop 2002–2015 118
              8 Dan Carter Fly-half 2003–2015 112
              9 Brodie Retallick Lock 2012–2023 109
              10 Owen Franks Prop 2009–2019 108
              11 Sam Cane 104
              12 Ma'a Nonu 103
              13 Malili Muliaina 100

              But feel free to measure yourself.

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              taniwharugby
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              @booboo 9 & 10 were the ones i missed!

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                • boobooB booboo

                  Devlin dropped a thing on X challenging peeps to name the other 13 Centurions in 2mins without googling..

                  I got 12. Git stuck on the latest. Oops.

                  Now a challenge for the Frrn: No need to list them, but gives us your numbers.

                  Booboo: 12/13

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                  @booboo 12/13 too.

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                    sparky
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                    Looking like perfect playing conditions.

                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/3435910

                    No excuses for the AB backs not passing well.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      Huge congratulations to Codie Taylor on reaching 100 Tests. He's been around since 2015. He watched and learned from the great Dane Coles, worked damn hard and has now become perhaps the first name on the AB team sheet.

                      Can remember when he was regarded on here with Christie-like reverence.

                      Classic case of the Fern living up to it's motto

                      Feel free to actually include some context.

                      In 2022 Codie Taylor's form fell of a cliff. From memory there was some oil in here that he had some off the field issues he was working through

                      In 2022 Samisoni had a breakout year and really started putting pressure on

                      More recently Codie Taylor has hit a real purple patch of form and Samisoni's form has dropped away (though a highly promising display last week).

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                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      Huge congratulations to Codie Taylor on reaching 100 Tests. He's been around since 2015. He watched and learned from the great Dane Coles, worked damn hard and has now become perhaps the first name on the AB team sheet.

                      Can remember when he was regarded on here with Christie-like reverence.

                      Classic case of the Fern living up to it's motto

                      Feel free to actually include some context.

                      In 2022 Codie Taylor's form fell of a cliff. From memory there was some oil in here that he had some off the field issues he was working through

                      In 2022 Samisoni had a breakout year and really started putting pressure on

                      More recently Codie Taylor has hit a real purple patch of form and Samisoni's form has dropped away (though a highly promising display last week).

                      Samisoni was injured last year disnt play a test

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @booboo 9 & 10 were the ones i missed!

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                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @booboo 9 & 10 were the ones i missed!

                        I missed Mils, but assumed Conrad had made it.

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          It was actually difficult to find a comprehensive list. Top 10 were on Wiki.

                          I've put the list with spoilers...

                          1 Sam Whitelock Lock 2010–2023 153
                          2 Richie McCaw Flanker 2001–2015 148
                          3 Beauden Barrett Fly-half 2012– 137
                          4 Keven Mealamu Hooker 2002–2015 132
                          5 Kieran Read Number 8 2008–2019 127
                          6 Aaron Smith Scrum-half 2012–2023 125
                          7 Tony Woodcock Prop 2002–2015 118
                          8 Dan Carter Fly-half 2003–2015 112
                          9 Brodie Retallick Lock 2012–2023 109
                          10 Owen Franks Prop 2009–2019 108
                          11 Sam Cane 104
                          12 Ma'a Nonu 103
                          13 Malili Muliaina 100

                          But feel free to measure yourself.

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                          @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          It was actually difficult to find a comprehensive list. Top 10 were on Wiki.

                          I've put the list with spoilers...

                          1 Sam Whitelock Lock 2010–2023 153
                          2 Richie McCaw Flanker 2001–2015 148
                          3 Beauden Barrett Fly-half 2012– 137
                          4 Keven Mealamu Hooker 2002–2015 132
                          5 Kieran Read Number 8 2008–2019 127
                          6 Aaron Smith Scrum-half 2012–2023 125
                          7 Tony Woodcock Prop 2002–2015 118
                          8 Dan Carter Fly-half 2003–2015 112
                          9 Brodie Retallick Lock 2012–2023 109
                          10 Owen Franks Prop 2009–2019 108
                          11 Sam Cane 104
                          12 Ma'a Nonu 103
                          13 Malili Muliaina 100

                          But feel free to measure yourself.

                          The 2015 RWC contained 13 of the to be 14.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @cgrant my eyes have been impressed with Beehre's carrying this season.

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @cgrant my eyes have been impressed with Beehre's carrying this season.

                            Like Props, we seem to have some serious depth at lock.

                            If only the same for 10...

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                              Anyone watching the Wallabies Bok game, the value of a speedster like Toole and Kobe makes the selection of Leroy Carter that much more needed. The Bok are constantly struggling with speed out wide

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                                Anyone watching the Wallabies Bok game, the value of a speedster like Toole and Kobe makes the selection of Leroy Carter that much more needed. The Bok are constantly struggling with speed out wide

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                                @jimmyb Don't worry Jimmy, Anton Leinert-Brown might be fit by then. 🤣

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                                  Anyone watching the Wallabies Bok game, the value of a speedster like Toole and Kobe makes the selection of Leroy Carter that much more needed. The Bok are constantly struggling with speed out wide

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                                  @jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.

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                                    @jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.

                                    I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back

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                                      @jimmyb Don't worry Jimmy, Anton Leinert-Brown might be fit by then. 🤣

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      @jimmyb Don't worry Jimmy, Anton Leinert-Brown might be fit by then. 🤣

                                      You want to give me a brain aneurism?

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.

                                        I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back

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                                        @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.

                                        I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back

                                        I mean, he could be, but I'd cite sweet feet, lines and a fend as much more a weapon than pace. Jane mkII

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                          @jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.

                                          I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back

                                          I mean, he could be, but I'd cite sweet feet, lines and a fend as much more a weapon than pace. Jane mkII

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                          @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                          @jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.

                                          I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back

                                          I mean, he could be, but I'd cite sweet feet, lines and a fend as much more a weapon than pace. Jane mkII

                                          Would kill to have Jane on the wing rn

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