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  • B brodean

    Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

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    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

    I reckon we could just about claim that Sky Stadium should be considered an away game for us so could say that

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    • B brodean

      Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

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      @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

      Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

      Christchuch 3 years ago I believe. Will google.

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/all-blacks-vs-argentina-live-updates-from-the-rugby-championship-clash-in-wellington/LD7XNGSUGJFCHLIVC6UQ5CZVR4

      38-30 in Wellington last year

      Edit: and CHC 2 years before that
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300671887/argentina-stun-illdisciplined-all-blacks-in-christchurch-to-bag-historic-win

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        In Argentina, no.

        Screenshot 2025-07-25 at 16.20.20.png

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

          Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

          Christchuch 3 years ago I believe. Will google.

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/all-blacks-vs-argentina-live-updates-from-the-rugby-championship-clash-in-wellington/LD7XNGSUGJFCHLIVC6UQ5CZVR4

          38-30 in Wellington last year

          Edit: and CHC 2 years before that
          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300671887/argentina-stun-illdisciplined-all-blacks-in-christchurch-to-bag-historic-win

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          @nzzp

          At home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.

          They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.

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            Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour

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              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

              Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour

              Yeah group of mates did it a few years back, didn't surface for another 6 months afterwards.

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                @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2025:

                With Noah Hotham under an injury cloud and may need to be replaced, who is the next cab off the rank? Xavier Roe, Kyle Preston?
                But please no Christie.

                Preston has some attributes that the ABs could do with (solid kicking game off both feet and pace), but he showed this year he can be a bit sloppy when clearing the ball under pressure. I think he needs more time.

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                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2025:

                With Noah Hotham under an injury cloud and may need to be replaced, who is the next cab off the rank? Xavier Roe, Kyle Preston?
                But please no Christie.

                Preston has some attributes that the ABs could do with (solid kicking game off both feet and pace), but he showed this year he can be a bit sloppy when clearing the ball under pressure. I think he needs more time.

                When we're looking at the 4th choice halfback there will be rough edges. Question is who has the least, or at least fits best with the AB pattern.

                Very few ready made Aaron Smiths out there.

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                • B brodean

                  Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

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                  @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

                  At their home? You are correct

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour

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                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour

                    Yes, it would be awesome

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                    • B brodean

                      @nzzp

                      At home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.

                      They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.

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                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @nzzp

                      At home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.

                      They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.

                      They lost twice to a lion-less England side

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                        @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @nzzp

                        At home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.

                        They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.

                        They lost twice to a lion-less England side

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                        @DaGrubster

                        They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                        They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

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                        • B brodean

                          @DaGrubster

                          They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                          They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

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                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @DaGrubster

                          They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                          They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

                          Didn’t they also put 60ish on Aussie at home? The Argies are a bit like the French, if they turn up we’ll be in for a real fight.

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                          • B brodean

                            @DaGrubster

                            They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                            They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

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                            @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @DaGrubster

                            They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                            They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

                            I dont underestimate them.

                            But England beat them twice without their 10 best players

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                              @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @DaGrubster

                              They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                              They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

                              I dont underestimate them.

                              But England beat them twice without their 10 best players

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                              @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @DaGrubster

                              They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                              They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

                              I dont underestimate them.

                              But England beat them twice without their 10 best players

                              Contempomi rested more than 10 players from the England series:

                              Gonzalo García, Tomás Albornoz, Joaquín Oviedo, Franco Molina, Joel Sclavi, Mateo Carreras, Bautista Delguy, Juan Cruz Mallía, Santiago Chocobares, Efraín Elías, Guido Petti, Gerónimo Prisciantelli, Ignacio Calles, Eduardo Bello, Ignacio Ruiz, Marcos Kremer.

                              Not suggesting that they had more firepower out than England, but it was far from a full-strength team.

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                                On the Fainga'anuku sitch:

                                New Zealand Rugby has told The Post that Fainga’anuku isn’t available for the Rugby Championship, due to the amount of time he has spent away from New Zealand and the fact that he was only 24 years old when he took up the contract with Toulon. NZ Rugby requires players to have built up a record of long service before they can go overseas and immediately come back into the All Blacks frame upon returning to New Zealand.

                                So basically the policy is whatever they want it to be on the day.

                                http://thepost.co.nz/sport/360765638/why-returning-all-black-leicester-faingaanuku-unlikely-be-picked-rugby-championship

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                                  On the Fainga'anuku sitch:

                                  New Zealand Rugby has told The Post that Fainga’anuku isn’t available for the Rugby Championship, due to the amount of time he has spent away from New Zealand and the fact that he was only 24 years old when he took up the contract with Toulon. NZ Rugby requires players to have built up a record of long service before they can go overseas and immediately come back into the All Blacks frame upon returning to New Zealand.

                                  So basically the policy is whatever they want it to be on the day.

                                  http://thepost.co.nz/sport/360765638/why-returning-all-black-leicester-faingaanuku-unlikely-be-picked-rugby-championship

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                                  @Mr-Fish Which is fine by me.

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                                    I think Hotham may go past ratima , to me it just looks like his execution is crisper .

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                                      Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

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                                        The 4-4-4 Plan.

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                                          Rugby Pass is reporting that Leicester won't get an exemption for TRC unless we are decimated by injuries

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