All Blacks 2025
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?
Christchuch 3 years ago I believe. Will google.
38-30 in Wellington last year
Edit: and CHC 2 years before that
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300671887/argentina-stun-illdisciplined-all-blacks-in-christchurch-to-bag-historic-winAt home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.
They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.
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Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour
Yeah group of mates did it a few years back, didn't surface for another 6 months afterwards.
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@1kiwi said in All Blacks 2025:
With Noah Hotham under an injury cloud and may need to be replaced, who is the next cab off the rank? Xavier Roe, Kyle Preston?
But please no Christie.Preston has some attributes that the ABs could do with (solid kicking game off both feet and pace), but he showed this year he can be a bit sloppy when clearing the ball under pressure. I think he needs more time.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@1kiwi said in All Blacks 2025:
With Noah Hotham under an injury cloud and may need to be replaced, who is the next cab off the rank? Xavier Roe, Kyle Preston?
But please no Christie.Preston has some attributes that the ABs could do with (solid kicking game off both feet and pace), but he showed this year he can be a bit sloppy when clearing the ball under pressure. I think he needs more time.
When we're looking at the 4th choice halfback there will be rough edges. Question is who has the least, or at least fits best with the AB pattern.
Very few ready made Aaron Smiths out there.
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Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?
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Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour
Yes, it would be awesome
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At home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.
They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
At home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.
They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.
They lost twice to a lion-less England side
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
At home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.
They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.
They lost twice to a lion-less England side
They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.
They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.
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They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.
They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.
They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.
Didn’t they also put 60ish on Aussie at home? The Argies are a bit like the French, if they turn up we’ll be in for a real fight.
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They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.
They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.
They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.
I dont underestimate them.
But England beat them twice without their 10 best players
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.
They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.
I dont underestimate them.
But England beat them twice without their 10 best players
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.
They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.
I dont underestimate them.
But England beat them twice without their 10 best players
Contempomi rested more than 10 players from the England series:
Gonzalo García, Tomás Albornoz, Joaquín Oviedo, Franco Molina, Joel Sclavi, Mateo Carreras, Bautista Delguy, Juan Cruz Mallía, Santiago Chocobares, Efraín Elías, Guido Petti, Gerónimo Prisciantelli, Ignacio Calles, Eduardo Bello, Ignacio Ruiz, Marcos Kremer.
Not suggesting that they had more firepower out than England, but it was far from a full-strength team.
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On the Fainga'anuku sitch:
New Zealand Rugby has told The Post that Fainga’anuku isn’t available for the Rugby Championship, due to the amount of time he has spent away from New Zealand and the fact that he was only 24 years old when he took up the contract with Toulon. NZ Rugby requires players to have built up a record of long service before they can go overseas and immediately come back into the All Blacks frame upon returning to New Zealand.
So basically the policy is whatever they want it to be on the day.
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On the Fainga'anuku sitch:
New Zealand Rugby has told The Post that Fainga’anuku isn’t available for the Rugby Championship, due to the amount of time he has spent away from New Zealand and the fact that he was only 24 years old when he took up the contract with Toulon. NZ Rugby requires players to have built up a record of long service before they can go overseas and immediately come back into the All Blacks frame upon returning to New Zealand.
So basically the policy is whatever they want it to be on the day.
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I think Hotham may go past ratima , to me it just looks like his execution is crisper .
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From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.
Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.
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Christie might be viewed as the safe option, given his experience but it’d be a wasted selection. He won’t be at the World Cup, he’ll come off the bench and add nothing and there’s an opportunity here to see what other players have to offer if they get an opportunity.
