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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    Some candidates might only be interested in being the head coach at this stage of their career while others could be prepared to park their ego at the door and look at the bigger picture. Think back to 2003/2004 when Henry assembled a "dream team" with 2 assistants who had previously been the head coach of international teams themselves. If everything falls into place the assistant would be a good chance to succeed the head coach as Hansen did. The big unknown is whether some of the names mentioned in the press could work together because they all have their own personalities and ideas, and we don't really know if there is any history between them.

    They're currently saying on Radiosport that an invitation to apply has been sent to 26 coaches - with an implication that they're all New Zealanders (though I might have misinterpreted that bit). Stuff confirming:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/117198809/graham-henry-named-on-all-blacks-coaching-selection-panel

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    @Chris-B Perhaps they are interviewing teams of coaches - hence the 26.

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      I'd be pretty sure expat coaches like Cotter, Haig, Crowley, maybe Penney etc are in that list of 26. But at 26 names, you start to wonder if Hammett and Gibson are there too!

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        I'd think anyone who's coached Super rugby in recent times - as well as various international coaches....

        Ian Foster
        Warren Gatland
        Joe Schmidt
        Wayne Smith
        Dave Rennie
        Jamie Joseph
        Vern Cotter
        Leon MacDonald
        Tana Umaga
        John Kirwan
        Pat Lam
        Colin Cooper
        John Plumtree
        Chris Boyd
        Mark Hammett
        Razor Robertson
        Todd Blackadder
        Robbie Deans
        Aaron Mauger
        Tony Brown
        Gordon Tietjens
        Milton Haig
        Steve Jackson
        Wayne Pivac
        Darryl Gibson
        Brad Thorn
        Jono Gibbes
        Simon Mannix

        Is that 28?

        Edit: John Mitchell
        Kieran Crowley
        Rob Penney

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        • TimT Tim

          @Chris-B Perhaps they are interviewing teams of coaches - hence the 26.

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          @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          @Chris-B Perhaps they are interviewing teams of coaches - hence the 26.

          I think just casting the net widely for the initial screening.

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          • Billy TellB Offline
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            Don't think John Mitchell has been approached. The job ad specifically says the NZRU are looking for the best and not a journeyman.

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              so is that coaching panel appointed to ensure Fozzie doesnt just walk it, or just appear that way if he gets the gig?

              At this rate, they wont be done by Xmas!!

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                26 coaches invited, doesn't mean they all will

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                • M Machpants

                  26 coaches invited, doesn't mean they all will

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                  @Machpants Yeah, without doubt some will flag it, or be contractually bound elsewhere - and some might put up their hands for assistant positions.

                  I reckon if you started trawling through the staff in those European clubs it might throw up quite a few interesting specialist coaches that most casual NZ fans would have forgotten about.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    I'd think anyone who's coached Super rugby in recent times - as well as various international coaches....

                    Ian Foster
                    Warren Gatland
                    Joe Schmidt
                    Wayne Smith
                    Dave Rennie
                    Jamie Joseph
                    Vern Cotter
                    Leon MacDonald
                    Tana Umaga
                    John Kirwan
                    Pat Lam
                    Colin Cooper
                    John Plumtree
                    Chris Boyd
                    Mark Hammett
                    Razor Robertson
                    Todd Blackadder
                    Robbie Deans
                    Aaron Mauger
                    Tony Brown
                    Gordon Tietjens
                    Milton Haig
                    Steve Jackson
                    Wayne Pivac
                    Darryl Gibson
                    Brad Thorn
                    Jono Gibbes
                    Simon Mannix

                    Is that 28?

                    Edit: John Mitchell
                    Kieran Crowley
                    Rob Penney

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                    @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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                      @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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                      @Higgins Actually, if they're stupid enough to keep Philpott on as U20 coach, they may also have been stupid enough to invite him to apply for the ABs coaching position. 🀒

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                      • HigginsH Higgins

                        @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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                        @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

                        They're the team for 2023.

                        There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                        Jamie Joseph
                        Leon MacDonald
                        Clarke Dermody
                        Kieran Keane
                        Ceri Evans

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          I'd think anyone who's coached Super rugby in recent times - as well as various international coaches....

                          Ian Foster
                          Warren Gatland
                          Joe Schmidt
                          Wayne Smith
                          Dave Rennie
                          Jamie Joseph
                          Vern Cotter
                          Leon MacDonald
                          Tana Umaga
                          John Kirwan
                          Pat Lam
                          Colin Cooper
                          John Plumtree
                          Chris Boyd
                          Mark Hammett
                          Razor Robertson
                          Todd Blackadder
                          Robbie Deans
                          Aaron Mauger
                          Tony Brown
                          Gordon Tietjens
                          Milton Haig
                          Steve Jackson
                          Wayne Pivac
                          Darryl Gibson
                          Brad Thorn
                          Jono Gibbes
                          Simon Mannix

                          Is that 28?

                          Edit: John Mitchell
                          Kieran Crowley
                          Rob Penney

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                          @Chris-B Jason O'Halloran is one that was promising before he left, worked with Rennie before too?

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @Chris-B Jason O'Halloran is one that was promising before he left, worked with Rennie before too?

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                            @taniwharugby

                            Yeah - be interested to see what sort of list we can collectively compile.

                            Conrad Smith is with Pau.
                            Nick Evans at Harlequins.
                            Bruce Reihana at Bristol.

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

                              They're the team for 2023.

                              There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                              Jamie Joseph
                              Leon MacDonald
                              Clarke Dermody
                              Kieran Keane
                              Ceri Evans

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                              @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                              Jamie Joseph
                              Leon MacDonald
                              Clarke Dermody
                              Kieran Keane
                              Ceri Evans

                              Tony Johnson as the media man?

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                                Jamie Joseph
                                Leon MacDonald
                                Clarke Dermody
                                Kieran Keane
                                Ceri Evans

                                Tony Johnson as the media man?

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                                @Bovidae It's a given! πŸ™‚

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                                  Jamie Joseph
                                  Leon MacDonald
                                  Clarke Dermody
                                  Kieran Keane
                                  Ceri Evans

                                  Tony Johnson as the media man?

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                                  @Bovidae I have to say - I'm deeply concerned about the composition of the selection committee. Alan Sutherland should have been the first name on the list! πŸ™‚

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    @Bovidae I have to say - I'm deeply concerned about the composition of the selection committee. Alan Sutherland should have been the first name on the list! πŸ™‚

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                                    @Chris-B Have you received Guy Williams application to join your team yet? πŸ˜‰

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @Chris-B Have you received Guy Williams application to join your team yet? πŸ˜‰

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                                      @Bovidae I suspect Guy doesn't like footy.

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

                                        They're the team for 2023.

                                        There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                                        Jamie Joseph
                                        Leon MacDonald
                                        Clarke Dermody
                                        Kieran Keane
                                        Ceri Evans

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                                        @Chris-B

                                        It’s a sign of the times when you need a psychiatrist on the coaching team.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

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                                          @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                          @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

                                          Tackle completion was fine, and not sure Poms missed any tries they should have scored.
                                          Problem was that we let them run to us, which meant they were usually making yards. In comparison, Boks moved forward five yards, so even if the big units made a couple in tackle they still didn't get over gain line.

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