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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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    26 coaches invited, doesn't mean they all will

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      26 coaches invited, doesn't mean they all will

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      @Machpants Yeah, without doubt some will flag it, or be contractually bound elsewhere - and some might put up their hands for assistant positions.

      I reckon if you started trawling through the staff in those European clubs it might throw up quite a few interesting specialist coaches that most casual NZ fans would have forgotten about.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        I'd think anyone who's coached Super rugby in recent times - as well as various international coaches....

        Ian Foster
        Warren Gatland
        Joe Schmidt
        Wayne Smith
        Dave Rennie
        Jamie Joseph
        Vern Cotter
        Leon MacDonald
        Tana Umaga
        John Kirwan
        Pat Lam
        Colin Cooper
        John Plumtree
        Chris Boyd
        Mark Hammett
        Razor Robertson
        Todd Blackadder
        Robbie Deans
        Aaron Mauger
        Tony Brown
        Gordon Tietjens
        Milton Haig
        Steve Jackson
        Wayne Pivac
        Darryl Gibson
        Brad Thorn
        Jono Gibbes
        Simon Mannix

        Is that 28?

        Edit: John Mitchell
        Kieran Crowley
        Rob Penney

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        @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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          @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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          @Higgins Actually, if they're stupid enough to keep Philpott on as U20 coach, they may also have been stupid enough to invite him to apply for the ABs coaching position. 🀒

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          • HigginsH Higgins

            @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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            @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

            @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

            They're the team for 2023.

            There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

            Jamie Joseph
            Leon MacDonald
            Clarke Dermody
            Kieran Keane
            Ceri Evans

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              I'd think anyone who's coached Super rugby in recent times - as well as various international coaches....

              Ian Foster
              Warren Gatland
              Joe Schmidt
              Wayne Smith
              Dave Rennie
              Jamie Joseph
              Vern Cotter
              Leon MacDonald
              Tana Umaga
              John Kirwan
              Pat Lam
              Colin Cooper
              John Plumtree
              Chris Boyd
              Mark Hammett
              Razor Robertson
              Todd Blackadder
              Robbie Deans
              Aaron Mauger
              Tony Brown
              Gordon Tietjens
              Milton Haig
              Steve Jackson
              Wayne Pivac
              Darryl Gibson
              Brad Thorn
              Jono Gibbes
              Simon Mannix

              Is that 28?

              Edit: John Mitchell
              Kieran Crowley
              Rob Penney

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              @Chris-B Jason O'Halloran is one that was promising before he left, worked with Rennie before too?

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Chris-B Jason O'Halloran is one that was promising before he left, worked with Rennie before too?

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                @taniwharugby

                Yeah - be interested to see what sort of list we can collectively compile.

                Conrad Smith is with Pau.
                Nick Evans at Harlequins.
                Bruce Reihana at Bristol.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

                  They're the team for 2023.

                  There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                  Jamie Joseph
                  Leon MacDonald
                  Clarke Dermody
                  Kieran Keane
                  Ceri Evans

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                  @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                  Jamie Joseph
                  Leon MacDonald
                  Clarke Dermody
                  Kieran Keane
                  Ceri Evans

                  Tony Johnson as the media man?

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                    Jamie Joseph
                    Leon MacDonald
                    Clarke Dermody
                    Kieran Keane
                    Ceri Evans

                    Tony Johnson as the media man?

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                    @Bovidae It's a given! πŸ™‚

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                      Jamie Joseph
                      Leon MacDonald
                      Clarke Dermody
                      Kieran Keane
                      Ceri Evans

                      Tony Johnson as the media man?

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                      @Bovidae I have to say - I'm deeply concerned about the composition of the selection committee. Alan Sutherland should have been the first name on the list! πŸ™‚

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @Bovidae I have to say - I'm deeply concerned about the composition of the selection committee. Alan Sutherland should have been the first name on the list! πŸ™‚

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                        @Chris-B Have you received Guy Williams application to join your team yet? πŸ˜‰

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @Chris-B Have you received Guy Williams application to join your team yet? πŸ˜‰

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                          @Bovidae I suspect Guy doesn't like footy.

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

                            They're the team for 2023.

                            There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                            Jamie Joseph
                            Leon MacDonald
                            Clarke Dermody
                            Kieran Keane
                            Ceri Evans

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                            @Chris-B

                            It’s a sign of the times when you need a psychiatrist on the coaching team.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

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                              @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

                              Tackle completion was fine, and not sure Poms missed any tries they should have scored.
                              Problem was that we let them run to us, which meant they were usually making yards. In comparison, Boks moved forward five yards, so even if the big units made a couple in tackle they still didn't get over gain line.

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                                @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

                                One was a massive obstruction the other was lucky to get ruled out.

                                That said, we didnt' lose that mainly because of our defence. We got smashed up front, and couldn'tmake any yards with the ball. It was horrific.

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                                @nzzp said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

                                One was a massive obstruction the other was lucky to get ruled out.

                                That said, we didnt' lose that mainly because of our defence. We got smashed up front, and couldn't make any yards with the ball. It was horrific.

                                Retallick forced the turnover at the maul where Poms lost the ball, even if we were lucky TMO on ball.

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                                  the thing that really sucks is we have another 8 months for our next game, that's two thirds of a whole year. And god knows how long it will be before we play England again

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                                  @Nevorian said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  the thing that really sucks is we have another 8 months for our next game, that's two thirds of a whole year. And god knows how long it will be before we play England again

                                  One year!

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                                    Any chance Razor would be the forwards coach with JJ and Brown?

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                                      This from Wales on Line -
                                      New Zealand have ruled out appointing a foreign coach, revealing that they have asked 26 New Zealanders to apply for the vacant All Blacks position.

                                      Japan coach Jamie Joseph, Hansen's assistant Ian Foster and Crusaders boss Scott Robertson are all heavily linked with the job.

                                      But AFP report that departing Wales coach Warren Gatland is in the mix.

                                      However, it is understood he has been told he could not coach the All Blacks and keep his contract as the British and Irish Lions coach for the 2021 tour to South Africa.

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                                        This from Wales on Line -
                                        New Zealand have ruled out appointing a foreign coach, revealing that they have asked 26 New Zealanders to apply for the vacant All Blacks position.

                                        Japan coach Jamie Joseph, Hansen's assistant Ian Foster and Crusaders boss Scott Robertson are all heavily linked with the job.

                                        But AFP report that departing Wales coach Warren Gatland is in the mix.

                                        However, it is understood he has been told he could not coach the All Blacks and keep his contract as the British and Irish Lions coach for the 2021 tour to South Africa.

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                                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        But AFP report that departing Wales coach Warren Gatland is in the mix.

                                        However, it is understood he has been told he could not coach the All Blacks and keep his contract as the British and Irish Lions coach for the 2021 tour to South Africa.

                                        He has been in it since the start. I'm not sure why many editorialized out of the Tew interview that Gatland was out of the running - he simply said he can't do both which seems obvious given NZ have fixtures in July 2021.

                                        Gatland likely has an out clause if he gets the AB posting, but if not it's difficult to see the Home Unions holding him to that contract. On both previous tours Gats wasn't reconfirmed until ~9 months out before the tour and Eddie among others would presumably be up for it...

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                                          Joe Schmidt isn't one of the 26 coaches contacted according to Impey (for family reasons).

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