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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    so is that coaching panel appointed to ensure Fozzie doesnt just walk it, or just appear that way if he gets the gig?

    At this rate, they wont be done by Xmas!!

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      26 coaches invited, doesn't mean they all will

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        26 coaches invited, doesn't mean they all will

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        @Machpants Yeah, without doubt some will flag it, or be contractually bound elsewhere - and some might put up their hands for assistant positions.

        I reckon if you started trawling through the staff in those European clubs it might throw up quite a few interesting specialist coaches that most casual NZ fans would have forgotten about.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          I'd think anyone who's coached Super rugby in recent times - as well as various international coaches....

          Ian Foster
          Warren Gatland
          Joe Schmidt
          Wayne Smith
          Dave Rennie
          Jamie Joseph
          Vern Cotter
          Leon MacDonald
          Tana Umaga
          John Kirwan
          Pat Lam
          Colin Cooper
          John Plumtree
          Chris Boyd
          Mark Hammett
          Razor Robertson
          Todd Blackadder
          Robbie Deans
          Aaron Mauger
          Tony Brown
          Gordon Tietjens
          Milton Haig
          Steve Jackson
          Wayne Pivac
          Darryl Gibson
          Brad Thorn
          Jono Gibbes
          Simon Mannix

          Is that 28?

          Edit: John Mitchell
          Kieran Crowley
          Rob Penney

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          @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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            @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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            @Higgins Actually, if they're stupid enough to keep Philpott on as U20 coach, they may also have been stupid enough to invite him to apply for the ABs coaching position. 🀒

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            • HigginsH Higgins

              @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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              @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

              They're the team for 2023.

              There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

              Jamie Joseph
              Leon MacDonald
              Clarke Dermody
              Kieran Keane
              Ceri Evans

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                I'd think anyone who's coached Super rugby in recent times - as well as various international coaches....

                Ian Foster
                Warren Gatland
                Joe Schmidt
                Wayne Smith
                Dave Rennie
                Jamie Joseph
                Vern Cotter
                Leon MacDonald
                Tana Umaga
                John Kirwan
                Pat Lam
                Colin Cooper
                John Plumtree
                Chris Boyd
                Mark Hammett
                Razor Robertson
                Todd Blackadder
                Robbie Deans
                Aaron Mauger
                Tony Brown
                Gordon Tietjens
                Milton Haig
                Steve Jackson
                Wayne Pivac
                Darryl Gibson
                Brad Thorn
                Jono Gibbes
                Simon Mannix

                Is that 28?

                Edit: John Mitchell
                Kieran Crowley
                Rob Penney

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                #326

                @Chris-B Jason O'Halloran is one that was promising before he left, worked with Rennie before too?

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Chris-B Jason O'Halloran is one that was promising before he left, worked with Rennie before too?

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                  @taniwharugby

                  Yeah - be interested to see what sort of list we can collectively compile.

                  Conrad Smith is with Pau.
                  Nick Evans at Harlequins.
                  Bruce Reihana at Bristol.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

                    They're the team for 2023.

                    There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                    Jamie Joseph
                    Leon MacDonald
                    Clarke Dermody
                    Kieran Keane
                    Ceri Evans

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                    #328

                    @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                    Jamie Joseph
                    Leon MacDonald
                    Clarke Dermody
                    Kieran Keane
                    Ceri Evans

                    Tony Johnson as the media man?

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                      Jamie Joseph
                      Leon MacDonald
                      Clarke Dermody
                      Kieran Keane
                      Ceri Evans

                      Tony Johnson as the media man?

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                      @Bovidae It's a given! πŸ™‚

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                        @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                        Jamie Joseph
                        Leon MacDonald
                        Clarke Dermody
                        Kieran Keane
                        Ceri Evans

                        Tony Johnson as the media man?

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                        @Bovidae I have to say - I'm deeply concerned about the composition of the selection committee. Alan Sutherland should have been the first name on the list! πŸ™‚

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Bovidae I have to say - I'm deeply concerned about the composition of the selection committee. Alan Sutherland should have been the first name on the list! πŸ™‚

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                          @Chris-B Have you received Guy Williams application to join your team yet? πŸ˜‰

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @Chris-B Have you received Guy Williams application to join your team yet? πŸ˜‰

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                            @Bovidae I suspect Guy doesn't like footy.

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

                              They're the team for 2023.

                              There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                              Jamie Joseph
                              Leon MacDonald
                              Clarke Dermody
                              Kieran Keane
                              Ceri Evans

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                              @Chris-B

                              It’s a sign of the times when you need a psychiatrist on the coaching team.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

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                                @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

                                Tackle completion was fine, and not sure Poms missed any tries they should have scored.
                                Problem was that we let them run to us, which meant they were usually making yards. In comparison, Boks moved forward five yards, so even if the big units made a couple in tackle they still didn't get over gain line.

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                                  @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

                                  One was a massive obstruction the other was lucky to get ruled out.

                                  That said, we didnt' lose that mainly because of our defence. We got smashed up front, and couldn'tmake any yards with the ball. It was horrific.

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                                  @nzzp said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

                                  One was a massive obstruction the other was lucky to get ruled out.

                                  That said, we didnt' lose that mainly because of our defence. We got smashed up front, and couldn't make any yards with the ball. It was horrific.

                                  Retallick forced the turnover at the maul where Poms lost the ball, even if we were lucky TMO on ball.

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                                    the thing that really sucks is we have another 8 months for our next game, that's two thirds of a whole year. And god knows how long it will be before we play England again

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                                    @Nevorian said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    the thing that really sucks is we have another 8 months for our next game, that's two thirds of a whole year. And god knows how long it will be before we play England again

                                    One year!

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                                      Any chance Razor would be the forwards coach with JJ and Brown?

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                                        This from Wales on Line -
                                        New Zealand have ruled out appointing a foreign coach, revealing that they have asked 26 New Zealanders to apply for the vacant All Blacks position.

                                        Japan coach Jamie Joseph, Hansen's assistant Ian Foster and Crusaders boss Scott Robertson are all heavily linked with the job.

                                        But AFP report that departing Wales coach Warren Gatland is in the mix.

                                        However, it is understood he has been told he could not coach the All Blacks and keep his contract as the British and Irish Lions coach for the 2021 tour to South Africa.

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                                          This from Wales on Line -
                                          New Zealand have ruled out appointing a foreign coach, revealing that they have asked 26 New Zealanders to apply for the vacant All Blacks position.

                                          Japan coach Jamie Joseph, Hansen's assistant Ian Foster and Crusaders boss Scott Robertson are all heavily linked with the job.

                                          But AFP report that departing Wales coach Warren Gatland is in the mix.

                                          However, it is understood he has been told he could not coach the All Blacks and keep his contract as the British and Irish Lions coach for the 2021 tour to South Africa.

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                                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                          But AFP report that departing Wales coach Warren Gatland is in the mix.

                                          However, it is understood he has been told he could not coach the All Blacks and keep his contract as the British and Irish Lions coach for the 2021 tour to South Africa.

                                          He has been in it since the start. I'm not sure why many editorialized out of the Tew interview that Gatland was out of the running - he simply said he can't do both which seems obvious given NZ have fixtures in July 2021.

                                          Gatland likely has an out clause if he gets the AB posting, but if not it's difficult to see the Home Unions holding him to that contract. On both previous tours Gats wasn't reconfirmed until ~9 months out before the tour and Eddie among others would presumably be up for it...

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