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  • M Machpants

    26 coaches invited, doesn't mean they all will

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    @Machpants Yeah, without doubt some will flag it, or be contractually bound elsewhere - and some might put up their hands for assistant positions.

    I reckon if you started trawling through the staff in those European clubs it might throw up quite a few interesting specialist coaches that most casual NZ fans would have forgotten about.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      I'd think anyone who's coached Super rugby in recent times - as well as various international coaches....

      Ian Foster
      Warren Gatland
      Joe Schmidt
      Wayne Smith
      Dave Rennie
      Jamie Joseph
      Vern Cotter
      Leon MacDonald
      Tana Umaga
      John Kirwan
      Pat Lam
      Colin Cooper
      John Plumtree
      Chris Boyd
      Mark Hammett
      Razor Robertson
      Todd Blackadder
      Robbie Deans
      Aaron Mauger
      Tony Brown
      Gordon Tietjens
      Milton Haig
      Steve Jackson
      Wayne Pivac
      Darryl Gibson
      Brad Thorn
      Jono Gibbes
      Simon Mannix

      Is that 28?

      Edit: John Mitchell
      Kieran Crowley
      Rob Penney

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      @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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        @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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        @Higgins Actually, if they're stupid enough to keep Philpott on as U20 coach, they may also have been stupid enough to invite him to apply for the ABs coaching position. 🀒

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        • HigginsH Higgins

          @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

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          @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

          They're the team for 2023.

          There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

          Jamie Joseph
          Leon MacDonald
          Clarke Dermody
          Kieran Keane
          Ceri Evans

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            I'd think anyone who's coached Super rugby in recent times - as well as various international coaches....

            Ian Foster
            Warren Gatland
            Joe Schmidt
            Wayne Smith
            Dave Rennie
            Jamie Joseph
            Vern Cotter
            Leon MacDonald
            Tana Umaga
            John Kirwan
            Pat Lam
            Colin Cooper
            John Plumtree
            Chris Boyd
            Mark Hammett
            Razor Robertson
            Todd Blackadder
            Robbie Deans
            Aaron Mauger
            Tony Brown
            Gordon Tietjens
            Milton Haig
            Steve Jackson
            Wayne Pivac
            Darryl Gibson
            Brad Thorn
            Jono Gibbes
            Simon Mannix

            Is that 28?

            Edit: John Mitchell
            Kieran Crowley
            Rob Penney

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            #326

            @Chris-B Jason O'Halloran is one that was promising before he left, worked with Rennie before too?

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Chris-B Jason O'Halloran is one that was promising before he left, worked with Rennie before too?

              Chris B.C Online
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              @taniwharugby

              Yeah - be interested to see what sort of list we can collectively compile.

              Conrad Smith is with Pau.
              Nick Evans at Harlequins.
              Bruce Reihana at Bristol.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

                They're the team for 2023.

                There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                Jamie Joseph
                Leon MacDonald
                Clarke Dermody
                Kieran Keane
                Ceri Evans

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                @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                Jamie Joseph
                Leon MacDonald
                Clarke Dermody
                Kieran Keane
                Ceri Evans

                Tony Johnson as the media man?

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                  Jamie Joseph
                  Leon MacDonald
                  Clarke Dermody
                  Kieran Keane
                  Ceri Evans

                  Tony Johnson as the media man?

                  Chris B.C Online
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                  Chris B.
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                  @Bovidae It's a given! πŸ™‚

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                    Jamie Joseph
                    Leon MacDonald
                    Clarke Dermody
                    Kieran Keane
                    Ceri Evans

                    Tony Johnson as the media man?

                    Chris B.C Online
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                    Chris B.
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                    @Bovidae I have to say - I'm deeply concerned about the composition of the selection committee. Alan Sutherland should have been the first name on the list! πŸ™‚

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @Bovidae I have to say - I'm deeply concerned about the composition of the selection committee. Alan Sutherland should have been the first name on the list! πŸ™‚

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                      @Chris-B Have you received Guy Williams application to join your team yet? πŸ˜‰

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @Chris-B Have you received Guy Williams application to join your team yet? πŸ˜‰

                        Chris B.C Online
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                        @Bovidae I suspect Guy doesn't like footy.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          @Chris-B Surprised you missed Andrew Goodman and Shane Christie from your list of potential coaches! Luckily you seem to have done us all a favour by also not including NZ Under 20s Head Coach Mr. Craig Philpott.

                          They're the team for 2023.

                          There's a somewhat common theme to my preferred coaching team posted earlier - but, only if you're paying attention! πŸ™‚

                          Jamie Joseph
                          Leon MacDonald
                          Clarke Dermody
                          Kieran Keane
                          Ceri Evans

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                          @Chris-B

                          It’s a sign of the times when you need a psychiatrist on the coaching team.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

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                            @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

                            Tackle completion was fine, and not sure Poms missed any tries they should have scored.
                            Problem was that we let them run to us, which meant they were usually making yards. In comparison, Boks moved forward five yards, so even if the big units made a couple in tackle they still didn't get over gain line.

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                              @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

                              One was a massive obstruction the other was lucky to get ruled out.

                              That said, we didnt' lose that mainly because of our defence. We got smashed up front, and couldn'tmake any yards with the ball. It was horrific.

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                              @nzzp said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              @nzzp With two disallowed tries. Our defence was weak as shit in that game.

                              One was a massive obstruction the other was lucky to get ruled out.

                              That said, we didnt' lose that mainly because of our defence. We got smashed up front, and couldn't make any yards with the ball. It was horrific.

                              Retallick forced the turnover at the maul where Poms lost the ball, even if we were lucky TMO on ball.

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                              • N Nevorian

                                the thing that really sucks is we have another 8 months for our next game, that's two thirds of a whole year. And god knows how long it will be before we play England again

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                                @Nevorian said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                the thing that really sucks is we have another 8 months for our next game, that's two thirds of a whole year. And god knows how long it will be before we play England again

                                One year!

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                                  Any chance Razor would be the forwards coach with JJ and Brown?

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                                    This from Wales on Line -
                                    New Zealand have ruled out appointing a foreign coach, revealing that they have asked 26 New Zealanders to apply for the vacant All Blacks position.

                                    Japan coach Jamie Joseph, Hansen's assistant Ian Foster and Crusaders boss Scott Robertson are all heavily linked with the job.

                                    But AFP report that departing Wales coach Warren Gatland is in the mix.

                                    However, it is understood he has been told he could not coach the All Blacks and keep his contract as the British and Irish Lions coach for the 2021 tour to South Africa.

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                                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                      This from Wales on Line -
                                      New Zealand have ruled out appointing a foreign coach, revealing that they have asked 26 New Zealanders to apply for the vacant All Blacks position.

                                      Japan coach Jamie Joseph, Hansen's assistant Ian Foster and Crusaders boss Scott Robertson are all heavily linked with the job.

                                      But AFP report that departing Wales coach Warren Gatland is in the mix.

                                      However, it is understood he has been told he could not coach the All Blacks and keep his contract as the British and Irish Lions coach for the 2021 tour to South Africa.

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                                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                      But AFP report that departing Wales coach Warren Gatland is in the mix.

                                      However, it is understood he has been told he could not coach the All Blacks and keep his contract as the British and Irish Lions coach for the 2021 tour to South Africa.

                                      He has been in it since the start. I'm not sure why many editorialized out of the Tew interview that Gatland was out of the running - he simply said he can't do both which seems obvious given NZ have fixtures in July 2021.

                                      Gatland likely has an out clause if he gets the AB posting, but if not it's difficult to see the Home Unions holding him to that contract. On both previous tours Gats wasn't reconfirmed until ~9 months out before the tour and Eddie among others would presumably be up for it...

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                                        Joe Schmidt isn't one of the 26 coaches contacted according to Impey (for family reasons).

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @Chris-B Jason O'Halloran is one that was promising before he left, worked with Rennie before too?

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                                          @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                          Jason O'Halloran

                                          He is currently Rennie's assistant at Glasgow

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