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2020 All Blacks Squad

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    It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
    Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
    And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

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      It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
      Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
      And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

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      @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

      It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
      Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
      And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

      I don't think he's up to it in the beard growing department

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      • TimT Tim

        @gt12 From the article.

        Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

         Hookers
        
        Dane Coles - 2021
        Codie Taylor - 2021
        
        Props
        Joe Moody - 2022
        Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
        Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
        Nepo Laulala - 2020
        
        Locks
        Scott Barrett - 2020
        Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
        Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
        
        Loose forwards
        Dalton Papalii - 2022
        Sam Cane - 2021
        Ardie Savea - 2021
        Vaea Fifita - 2020
        
        Halfbacks
        TJ Perenara - 2021
        Aaron Smith - 2021
        
        Midfield backs
        Ngani Laumape - 2021
        Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
        
        Wings
        Rieko Ioane - 2022
        
        Utilities
        Damian McKenzie - 2021
        
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        @Tim said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

        @gt12 From the article.

        Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

         Hookers
        
        Dane Coles - 2021
        Codie Taylor - 2021
        
        Props
        Joe Moody - 2022
        Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
        Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
        Nepo Laulala - 2020
        
        Locks
        Scott Barrett - 2020
        Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
        Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
        
        Loose forwards
        Dalton Papalii - 2022
        Sam Cane - 2021
        Ardie Savea - 2021
        Vaea Fifita - 2020
        
        Halfbacks
        TJ Perenara - 2021
        Aaron Smith - 2021
        
        Midfield backs
        Ngani Laumape - 2021
        Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
        
        Wings
        Rieko Ioane - 2022
        
        Utilities
        Damian McKenzie - 2021
        

        This gives me warm fuzzies

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          @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

          It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
          Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
          And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

          I don't think he's up to it in the beard growing department

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          @MN5 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

          @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

          It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
          Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
          And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

          I don't think he's up to it in the beard growing department

          And does he have the height to weight to play number 8?

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            rotated
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            They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

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              They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

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              @rotated

              I'm fascinated by how they try to work out the value of the contracts they offer to these players. BBBR must be more valuable than Whitelock, but how about Barrett versus Mounga? Personally, I be putting a bit of money in front of Goodhue right now too.

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              • TimT Tim

                @gt12 From the article.

                Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

                 Hookers
                
                Dane Coles - 2021
                Codie Taylor - 2021
                
                Props
                Joe Moody - 2022
                Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
                Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
                Nepo Laulala - 2020
                
                Locks
                Scott Barrett - 2020
                Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
                Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
                
                Loose forwards
                Dalton Papalii - 2022
                Sam Cane - 2021
                Ardie Savea - 2021
                Vaea Fifita - 2020
                
                Halfbacks
                TJ Perenara - 2021
                Aaron Smith - 2021
                
                Midfield backs
                Ngani Laumape - 2021
                Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
                
                Wings
                Rieko Ioane - 2022
                
                Utilities
                Damian McKenzie - 2021
                
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                number9
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                @Tim said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                @gt12 From the article.

                Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

                 Hookers
                
                Dane Coles - 2021
                Codie Taylor - 2021
                
                Props
                Joe Moody - 2022
                Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
                Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
                Nepo Laulala - 2020
                
                Locks
                Scott Barrett - 2020
                Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
                Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
                
                Loose forwards
                Dalton Papalii - 2022
                Sam Cane - 2021
                Ardie Savea - 2021
                Vaea Fifita - 2020
                
                Halfbacks
                TJ Perenara - 2021
                Aaron Smith - 2021
                
                Midfield backs
                Ngani Laumape - 2021
                Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
                
                Wings
                Rieko Ioane - 2022
                
                Utilities
                Damian McKenzie - 2021
                

                I 100% agree with Angus, but Atu Moli has done absolutely nothing to warrant selection. Lomax is not the inform THP, Laulala is looking good.

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                • rotatedR rotated

                  They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

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                  @rotated said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                  They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

                  Hansen (and Henry before him) really saw the value of grizzled veterans. I think the blend of half vets, and half enthusiastic youth is a tried formula.

                  On another note, it's great to see quality new faces popping up in every Super campaign. Will Jordan, Tom Robinson - and others - who could easily transition to the top level over the next few years.

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                    Yeahtheboys
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                    #165

                    What do you guys think will be the 6, 7 and 8 aswell as the reserve loosie come World Cup time? Aswell as what do you think for the 2020 squad.

                    I think

                    World Cup
                    6. Frizell
                    7. Savea
                    8. Read
                    20. Cane

                    2020
                    6. Frizell
                    7. Cane
                    8. Savea
                    20. Ioane

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                      #166

                      If, and it's a big if, cane makes the cup he starts, ardie will be on the bench. Outside that I've no idea EDIT: and Read at 8 obviously. Ardie might be the 7 instead of Cane if he had performed like the last game, in the game before vs the Crusaders.

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                        #167

                        6 Read
                        7 cane
                        8 Ioani

                        20 savea

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                          6 Read
                          7 cane
                          8 Ioani

                          20 savea

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                          Kirwan
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                          @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                          6 Read
                          7 cane
                          8 Ioani

                          20

                          That’s just cruel to tease me like that. Would be a dominant back row for sure.

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                            mariner4life
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                            My world cup knockout game 23

                            Smith
                            Bridge
                            Goodhue
                            ALB
                            Ioane
                            Mounga
                            Smith
                            Ioane
                            Cane
                            Read
                            Whitelock
                            Retallic
                            Franks
                            Coles
                            Moody

                            Taylor
                            Ofa T
                            Karl T
                            Patty T
                            Savea
                            TJP
                            Laumape
                            DMac

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                              Yeahtheboys
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                              #170

                              No Barrett? 😂😂 he’s always been shit in super rugby, he’ll be starting

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                My world cup knockout game 23

                                Smith
                                Bridge
                                Goodhue
                                ALB
                                Ioane
                                Mounga
                                Smith
                                Ioane
                                Cane
                                Read
                                Whitelock
                                Retallic
                                Franks
                                Coles
                                Moody

                                Taylor
                                Ofa T
                                Karl T
                                Patty T
                                Savea
                                TJP
                                Laumape
                                DMac

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                                @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                My world cup knockout game 23

                                Smith
                                Bridge
                                Goodhue
                                ALB
                                Ioane
                                Mounga
                                Smith
                                Ioane
                                Cane
                                Read
                                Whitelock
                                Retallic
                                Franks
                                Coles
                                Moody

                                Taylor
                                Ofa T
                                Karl T
                                Patty T
                                Savea
                                TJP
                                Laumape
                                DMac

                                @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                                Still an exciting team, but.

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                                  @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                  My world cup knockout game 23

                                  Smith
                                  Bridge
                                  Goodhue
                                  ALB
                                  Ioane
                                  Mounga
                                  Smith
                                  Ioane
                                  Cane
                                  Read
                                  Whitelock
                                  Retallic
                                  Franks
                                  Coles
                                  Moody

                                  Taylor
                                  Ofa T
                                  Karl T
                                  Patty T
                                  Savea
                                  TJP
                                  Laumape
                                  DMac

                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                                  Still an exciting team, but.

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                                  Rancid Schnitzel
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                                  @gt12 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                  @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                  My world cup knockout game 23

                                  Smith
                                  Bridge
                                  Goodhue
                                  ALB
                                  Ioane
                                  Mounga
                                  Smith
                                  Ioane
                                  Cane
                                  Read
                                  Whitelock
                                  Retallic
                                  Franks
                                  Coles
                                  Moody

                                  Taylor
                                  Ofa T
                                  Karl T
                                  Patty T
                                  Savea
                                  TJP
                                  Laumape
                                  DMac

                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                                  Still an exciting team, but.

                                  No comment. I've already been banned enough times this month. Although the inclusion of the once apparently absolutely shit A Savea makes me chuckle.

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                                    #173

                                    And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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                                      How many games of rugby has SBW actually played in the past 15 months?

                                      Five for the ABs (in at least one of which he hobbled off early), two or three for the Blues this year, not many for the Blues last year?

                                      A dozen?

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                                      • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                        And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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                                        @Chester-Draws assuming they are open about it just being arthroscopy, this is not a major surgery and could well be back up and running in a couple of weeks.

                                        As a non-elite athlete, I was back playing to my high level 4 weeks post arthroscopy.

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                                          And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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                                          @Chester-Draws said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                          And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

                                          I think badly broken is overstating it. It’s minor surgery that will sideline him for about a month.

                                          Blues head coach Leon MacDonald said: "Whatever he decides to do and puts his mind to, he sort of makes happen. If he still wants to keep playing later on he's the sort of guy you would never write off.
                                          "He's a pretty determined guy and this year he really wants to make the World Cup squad and be a part of that. So he's pretty driven to make sure he recovers well from this and gets back on the field."

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