All Blacks 2021
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That young no.12 from the Chiefs must be in the conversation now. Does he have a kicking game? Distribution seems sound.
@old-samurai-jack Nankivell?
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@old-samurai-jack Nankivell?
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I wrote down this two weeks ago as an AB 36 just after Super Rugby Aotearoa finished.
Props: Karl T, Hodgman, De Groot, Laulala, Ofa. T, Angus Ta'avao
Hooker: Taylor, Aumua, Eklund
Lock: S. Whitelock (c) , B. Retallick, S. Barrett, Vaa'i
Back row: A. Ioane, S. Frizell, C. Grace, A. Savea, D. Papali'i, L Jacobson, H. Sotutu
Half Backs: A. Smith, B. Weber, M. Drummond
First Fives: R. Mo'unga, B. Barrett, D. McKenzie
Midfield: D. Havili, ALB, Nankivell, Peter Umaga-Jensen
Back three: R. Ioane, W. Jordan, S. Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku, C. Garden-Bachop, J. Barrett
Probably one too many outside back so one of Nankivell, PUJ or Connor Garden-Bachop can drop out. Tom Robinson and Lachlan Bolshier are in cracking form so could get picked in the back row if one. or more of the capped ABs are injured. Blackadder and Harmon are playing the best Rugby of their careers so far.
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An absolute plethora of backrow talent available right now. Even with Cane and Savea injured.
I'd love to see Jacobson, Papali'i and Blackadder in the same backrow.
Incredible that the likes of Frizzell, Ioane, Grace or Sotutu could miss out on a 23
@frye said in All Blacks 2021:
An absolute plethora of backrow talent available right now. Even with Cane and Savea injured.
I'd love to see Jacobson, Papali'i and Blackadder in the same backrow.
Incredible that the likes of Frizzell, Ioane, Grace or Sotutu could miss out on a 23
Have to agree. Speaks volumes for the current 6/7/8 pool that the likes of Devan Flanders doesn't get a mention.
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I wrote down this two weeks ago as an AB 36 just after Super Rugby Aotearoa finished.
Props: Karl T, Hodgman, De Groot, Laulala, Ofa. T, Angus Ta'avao
Hooker: Taylor, Aumua, Eklund
Lock: S. Whitelock (c) , B. Retallick, S. Barrett, Vaa'i
Back row: A. Ioane, S. Frizell, C. Grace, A. Savea, D. Papali'i, L Jacobson, H. Sotutu
Half Backs: A. Smith, B. Weber, M. Drummond
First Fives: R. Mo'unga, B. Barrett, D. McKenzie
Midfield: D. Havili, ALB, Nankivell, Peter Umaga-Jensen
Back three: R. Ioane, W. Jordan, S. Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku, C. Garden-Bachop, J. Barrett
Probably one too many outside back so one of Nankivell, PUJ or Connor Garden-Bachop can drop out. Tom Robinson and Lachlan Bolshier are in cracking form so could get picked in the back row if one. or more of the capped ABs are injured. Blackadder and Harmon are playing the best Rugby of their careers so far.
@sparky good list. #9 looks shallow.
I'm a bit happier about DM at 10 now.
Would suspect Rieko has an edge along with Leicester for potential midfield support.
Is Angus Ta'avao playing that well?
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What about world cup team?
It is only two years away...
This is my pick at the moment:
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A Hogman
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C Taylor
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N Laulala
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S Whitelock
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S Barrett
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E Blackadder / or T Robinson
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S Cane(c)
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H Sotutu or A Savea
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A Smith
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R Moanga
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C Clarke
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D Havili
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A Lenert-Brown
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W Jordan
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DMac or J Barrett
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E De Groot
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A Aumua
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O Tuangafassi
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T Vaii
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A Ioane or A Savea (depending on who starts)
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F Fakatava
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B Barrett
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R Ioane
No RTS cos I'm not sure how they will play him. Although if they play him in 15 he will likely be a shoe in.
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I wrote down this two weeks ago as an AB 36 just after Super Rugby Aotearoa finished.
Props: Karl T, Hodgman, De Groot, Laulala, Ofa. T, Angus Ta'avao
Hooker: Taylor, Aumua, Eklund
Lock: S. Whitelock (c) , B. Retallick, S. Barrett, Vaa'i
Back row: A. Ioane, S. Frizell, C. Grace, A. Savea, D. Papali'i, L Jacobson, H. Sotutu
Half Backs: A. Smith, B. Weber, M. Drummond
First Fives: R. Mo'unga, B. Barrett, D. McKenzie
Midfield: D. Havili, ALB, Nankivell, Peter Umaga-Jensen
Back three: R. Ioane, W. Jordan, S. Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku, C. Garden-Bachop, J. Barrett
Probably one too many outside back so one of Nankivell, PUJ or Connor Garden-Bachop can drop out. Tom Robinson and Lachlan Bolshier are in cracking form so could get picked in the back row if one. or more of the capped ABs are injured. Blackadder and Harmon are playing the best Rugby of their careers so far.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
I wrote down this two weeks ago as an AB 36 just after Super Rugby Aotearoa finished.
Props: Karl T, Hodgman, De Groot, Laulala, Ofa. T, Angus Ta'avao
Hooker: Taylor, Aumua, Eklund
Lock: S. Whitelock (c) , B. Retallick, S. Barrett, Vaa'i
Back row: A. Ioane, S. Frizell, C. Grace, A. Savea, D. Papali'i, L Jacobson, H. Sotutu
Half Backs: A. Smith, B. Weber, M. Drummond
First Fives: R. Mo'unga, B. Barrett, D. McKenzie
Midfield: D. Havili, ALB, Nankivell, Peter Umaga-Jensen
Back three: R. Ioane, W. Jordan, S. Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku, C. Garden-Bachop, J. Barrett
Probably one too many outside back so one of Nankivell, PUJ or Connor Garden-Bachop can drop out. Tom Robinson and Lachlan Bolshier are in cracking form so could get picked in the back row if one. or more of the capped ABs are injured. Blackadder and Harmon are playing the best Rugby of their careers so far.
CGB is gone for the season and PUJ hasn't played or shown much
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What about world cup team?
It is only two years away...
This is my pick at the moment:
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A Hogman
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C Taylor
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N Laulala
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S Whitelock
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S Barrett
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E Blackadder / or T Robinson
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S Cane(c)
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H Sotutu or A Savea
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A Smith
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R Moanga
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C Clarke
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D Havili
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A Lenert-Brown
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W Jordan
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DMac or J Barrett
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E De Groot
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A Aumua
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O Tuangafassi
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T Vaii
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A Ioane or A Savea (depending on who starts)
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F Fakatava
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B Barrett
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R Ioane
No RTS cos I'm not sure how they will play him. Although if they play him in 15 he will likely be a shoe in.
I'd go for Akira at 6. Think he showed last year he's turned the corner and his work rate in the Trans Ta$man has been exceptional.
Would like both Robinson and Blackaddder to get some game time to see how they go. And I'd want to give Jacobson a start at 8 as well as Sotutu.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
I wrote down this two weeks ago as an AB 36 just after Super Rugby Aotearoa finished.
Props: Karl T, Hodgman, De Groot, Laulala, Ofa. T, Angus Ta'avao
Hooker: Taylor, Aumua, Eklund
Lock: S. Whitelock (c) , B. Retallick, S. Barrett, Vaa'i
Back row: A. Ioane, S. Frizell, C. Grace, A. Savea, D. Papali'i, L Jacobson, H. Sotutu
Half Backs: A. Smith, B. Weber, M. Drummond
First Fives: R. Mo'unga, B. Barrett, D. McKenzie
Midfield: D. Havili, ALB, Nankivell, Peter Umaga-Jensen
Back three: R. Ioane, W. Jordan, S. Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku, C. Garden-Bachop, J. Barrett
Probably one too many outside back so one of Nankivell, PUJ or Connor Garden-Bachop can drop out. Tom Robinson and Lachlan Bolshier are in cracking form so could get picked in the back row if one. or more of the capped ABs are injured. Blackadder and Harmon are playing the best Rugby of their careers so far.
CGB is gone for the season and PUJ hasn't played or shown much
@mackerzzzz Didn't know CGB was out for the season. Scrub him from my list and that makes 35.
I'd stick with PUJ even though his form hasn't been great. Think he's a handful off the bench for the opposition at International level. Rate his skills and potential more than Ennor's.
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@sparky good list. #9 looks shallow.
I'm a bit happier about DM at 10 now.
Would suspect Rieko has an edge along with Leicester for potential midfield support.
Is Angus Ta'avao playing that well?
And doesn't SB have some lock/6 competition?@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky good list. #9 looks shallow.
I'm a bit happier about DM at 10 now.
Would suspect Rieko has an edge along with Leicester for potential midfield support.
Is Angus Ta'avao playing that well?
And doesn't SB have some lock/6 competition?Agree about 9. I've been impressed by both the Chiefs and the Highlanders scrums this year. I was worried a couple of weeks ago about Tom. Robinson's defensive work rate, but that has been improved in the last two games.
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I wrote down this two weeks ago as an AB 36 just after Super Rugby Aotearoa finished.
Props: Karl T, Hodgman, De Groot, Laulala, Ofa. T, Angus Ta'avao
Hooker: Taylor, Aumua, Eklund
Lock: S. Whitelock (c) , B. Retallick, S. Barrett, Vaa'i
Back row: A. Ioane, S. Frizell, C. Grace, A. Savea, D. Papali'i, L Jacobson, H. Sotutu
Half Backs: A. Smith, B. Weber, M. Drummond
First Fives: R. Mo'unga, B. Barrett, D. McKenzie
Midfield: D. Havili, ALB, Nankivell, Peter Umaga-Jensen
Back three: R. Ioane, W. Jordan, S. Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku, C. Garden-Bachop, J. Barrett
Probably one too many outside back so one of Nankivell, PUJ or Connor Garden-Bachop can drop out. Tom Robinson and Lachlan Bolshier are in cracking form so could get picked in the back row if one. or more of the capped ABs are injured. Blackadder and Harmon are playing the best Rugby of their careers so far.
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@sparky De Groot is definitely one for the future but I think he is behind Ross in the LH prop pecking order.
Coles will still be there as you can't beat experience.
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Barring injuries i'd like to see this team get a crack early on in the season:
- Hodgman
- Taylor
- Tu'ungafasi
- Barrett
- Whitelock (c)
- Jacobson
- Savea
- Sotutu
- Smith
- Mo'unga
- Ioane
- Havili
- Leinert Brown
- Jordan
- J Barrett
- Aumua
- Tu'unukuafe
- Laulaula
- Rettalick
- Papali'i
- Weber
- McKenzie
- Fainga'anuku
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- Karl T
- Taylor
- Laulala
- Retallick
- Whitelock
- A. Ioane
- A. Savea
- H. Sotutu
- A. Smith
- R. Mo'unga
- L. Fainga'anuka
- D. Havaii
- ALB
- W. Jordan
- J. Barrett
- A. Aumua
- E. De Groot
- Ofa T
- S. Barrett
- D. Papali'i
- Weber
- B. Barrett
- R. Ioane
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@bones That's the one. Probably a bit early yet but showing some real promise.
@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones That's the one. Probably a bit early yet but showing some real promise.
He's not exactly a newbie! Been around a few years now. I'm surprised he's only 24.
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@sparky De Groot is definitely one for the future but I think he is behind Ross in the LH prop pecking order.
Coles will still be there as you can't beat experience.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
Coles will still be there as you can't beat experience.
Trouble is Cole's experience includes a long record in beating the opposition, literally, and far too often, in front of the ref.
Add: I fear as he ages and slows, he'll have less patience and more temptation to see red. Has been a great player for the All Blacks though. -
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
Coles will still be there as you can't beat experience.
Trouble is Cole's experience includes a long record in beating the opposition, literally, and far too often, in front of the ref.
Add: I fear as he ages and slows, he'll have less patience and more temptation to see red. Has been a great player for the All Blacks though.@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
Coles will still be there as you can't beat experience.
Trouble is Cole's experience includes a long record in beating the opposition, literally, and far too often, in front of the ref.
Add: I fear as he ages and slows, he'll have less patience and more temptation to see red. Has been a great player for the All Blacks though.How often has Coles discipline been an issue at test level? I feel the opposite but probably more from personal experience - the longer in the tooth you get, the more likely you'll be able to pick up opposition cards than your own.
