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Hurricanes 2024

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  • SouthernMannS Offline
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    SouthernMann
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    #381

    Looks weaker than this year.

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    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

      https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-2024-dhl-super-rugby-pacific-squad-named

      FORWARDS

      Props

      Siale Lauaki – Wellington

      Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man

      Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty

      Xavier Numia – Wellington

      Pouri Rakete-Stones – Hawke’s Bay

      Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

      Hookers

      Asafo Aumua – Wellington

      Jacob Devery – Hawke’s Bay

      James O’Reilly – Wellington

      Locks

      Caleb Delany – Wellington

      Ben Grant – North Harbour

      Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty

      Josh Taula – Manawatū

      James Tucker – Waikato

      Isaia Walker-Leawere – Hawke’s Bay

      Loose Forwards

      Devan Flanders – Hawke’s Bay

      TK Howden – Manawatū

      Brayden Iose – Manawatū

      Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington

      Peter Lakai – Wellington

      Brad Shields – Wellington

      BACKS

      Halfbacks

      Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty

      TJ Perenara – Wellington

      Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

      Five-eighths

      Brett Cameron – Manawatū

      Aidan Morgan – Wellington

      Midfield

      Jordie Barrett – Taranaki

      Riley Higgins – Wellington

      Billy Proctor – Wellington

      Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato

      Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

      Outside Backs

      Harry Godfrey – Hawke’s Bay

      Ruben Love – Wellington

      Josh Moorby – Northland

      Kini Naholo – Taranaki

      Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury

      Salesi Rayasi – Auckland

      Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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      #382

      @Yeetyaah

      If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

      My biggest concern is 1st 5.

      But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

      2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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      • WingerW Winger

        @Yeetyaah

        If Laidlaw is any good, he should do well with this side. Esp if he appoints a VG head forwards coach (its odd that all is so quiet on this front)

        My biggest concern is 1st 5.

        But this will be a good test of Laidlaw's coaching ability. Morgan is a useless first that hopefully is in his final year. Love was poor this NPC and needs to focus on regaining form at FB. Godfrey is not even close to being ready yet. The obvious answer Cameron starting with Barrett as his backup. Except for the easier games where another option can be given game time.

        2 big pluses. Blackwell is gone. And Prinsep too. Not their fault but once regular starters and not even close to being good enough at this level. So, I'll add the dumb coaches who selected them as well. So, a new start. I just hope they step up. Tamati Ellison didn't at NPC level as a head coach. I hope Laidlaw isn't a repeat.

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        #383

        @Winger the expectation should be to compete for the title but it will be up to the likes of Roigard, Cameron, Barrett and Love (as key game drivers) to put us in the right areas of the park. They failed to do that against the Brumbies when it counted for the last two seasons, so that should be a key work on.

        As per usual we will also need a good forwards coach to get the best out of our pack so our backs can do their thing. Guys pushing for AB selection like Mafileo, Numia, Aumua, Delany, Sangster, Howden and Flanders will all be after big campaigns so it's exciting, let's hope they stand up.

        We've got quite a few players in their third/fourth season at the Canes so it should be the coming of age for a lot of them.

        Add in the input of young up and coming players like Lakai, Godfrey, Higgins and Lauaki and there is a lot to like about this squad.

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        • TimT Tim

          Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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          @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            @Tim I’m hoping Kini Naholo and Reuben Love will kick on next year, but not enough depth in the forwards or quality at First Five to challenge for the title I fear.

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            #385

            @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

            I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

              I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

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              Winger
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              #386

              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

              @sparky if Cameron gets injured we are in trouble. I feel like that's the case with most teams this year though so I'm not too bothered.

              I.e. Dmac is crucial to the Chiefs, Burke (already out) is crucial to the Crusaders, Perofeta to the Blues etc.

              I hope it doesn't happen

              But Barrett, Higgins and Proctor could be an excellent combo. With PUJ / Sullivan as a backup.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                2023 was a topsy turvy year and it ultimately ended in disappointment after the Canes looked like they were getting a roll on. Despite losing Dane Coles and Ardie Savea for next year's campaign, the Hurricanes, with a maturing side will look to take that momentum into next season.

                Looking ahead to 2024, we've got a new coach in Clark Laidlaw which should bring plenty of fresh thinking into the side and we also have Brad Shields coming back in which should offset some of that experience lost.

                The following roster has been formulated thus far:

                Signed players:

                Props:
                T Lomax
                X Numia
                S Lauaki

                Hookers:
                A Aumua

                Locks:
                I Walker-Leawere

                Loose Forwards:
                D Flanders
                D Kirifi
                P Lakai
                B Shields

                Halfbacks:
                None

                First Fives:
                A Morgan

                Midfield:
                B Sullivan
                B Proctor
                R Higgins
                J Barrett

                Outside Backs:
                H Godfrey
                J Moorby
                R Love

                Confirmed as leaving:

                Hookers:
                D Coles

                Loose forwards:
                A Savea (Japan for 2024, back in 2025)

                Unknown contract status:

                Props:
                P Rakete-Stones
                T Mafileo
                O Franks
                P Tosi

                Hookers:
                J Devery

                Locks:
                J Sangster
                J Blackwell
                D Bird

                Loose Forwards:
                T Howden
                R Prinsep
                C Delany
                B Iose

                First Fives:
                B Cameron

                Midfielders:
                P Umaga-Jensen

                Outside Backs:
                S Rayasi
                K Naholo
                J Savea
                D Sinkinson

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                #387

                @Canes4life

                FORWARDS

                Props
                Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                Xavier Numia – Wellington
                Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                Hookers
                Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                James O’Reilly – Wellington

                Locks
                Caleb Delany – Wellington
                Ben Grant – North Harbour
                Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                Josh Taula – Manawatū
                James Tucker – Waikato
                Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                Loose Forwards
                Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                TK Howden – Manawatū
                Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                Peter Lakai – Wellington
                Brad Shields – Wellington

                BACKS

                Halfbacks
                Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                TJ Perenara – Wellington
                Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                Five-eighths
                Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                Midfield
                Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                Riley Higgins – Wellington
                Billy Proctor – Wellington
                Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                Outside Backs
                Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                Ruben Love – Wellington
                Josh Moorby – Northland
                Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                • WingerW Winger

                  @Canes4life

                  FORWARDS

                  Props
                  Siale Lauaki – Wellington
                  Tyrel Lomax – Ta$man
                  Tevita Mafileo – Bay of Plenty
                  Xavier Numia – Wellington
                  Pouri Rakete-Stones – Shield Snorters
                  Pasilio Tosi – Bay of Plenty

                  Hookers
                  Asafo Aumua – Wellington
                  Jacob Devery – Shield Snorters
                  James O’Reilly – Wellington

                  Locks
                  Caleb Delany – Wellington
                  Ben Grant – North Harbour
                  Justin Sangster – Bay of Plenty
                  Josh Taula – Manawatū
                  James Tucker – Waikato
                  Isaia Walker-Leawere – Shield Snorters

                  Loose Forwards
                  Devan Flanders – Shield Snorters
                  TK Howden – Manawatū
                  Brayden Iose – Manawatū
                  Du’Plessis Kirifi – Wellington
                  Peter Lakai – Wellington
                  Brad Shields – Wellington

                  BACKS

                  Halfbacks
                  Richard Judd – Bay of Plenty
                  TJ Perenara – Wellington
                  Cam Roigard – Counties Manukau

                  Five-eighths
                  Brett Cameron – Manawatū
                  Aidan Morgan – Wellington

                  Midfield
                  Jordie Barrett – Taranaki
                  Riley Higgins – Wellington
                  Billy Proctor – Wellington
                  Bailyn Sullivan – Waikato
                  Peter Umaga-Jensen – Wellington

                  Outside Backs
                  Harry Godfrey – Shield Snorters
                  Ruben Love – Wellington
                  Josh Moorby – Northland
                  Kini Naholo – Taranaki
                  Ngatungane Punivai – Canterbury
                  Salesi Rayasi – Auckland
                  Daniel Sinkinson – Waikato

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #388

                  @Winger ??

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Strong front row and backs, but lack a top quality wing. Savea big loss. Dark horse for the title? Could cause some upsets in playoffs.

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                    KiwiMurph
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #389

                    @Tim said in Hurricanes 2024:

                    Savea big loss

                    On the scales. Not on impact.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @Tim said in Hurricanes 2024:

                      Savea big loss

                      On the scales. Not on impact.

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                      Canes4life
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                      #390

                      @KiwiMurph I think he was meaning ASav, not JSav.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @KiwiMurph I think he was meaning ASav, not JSav.

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                        KiwiMurph
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                        #391

                        @Canes4life Good point

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @Winger ??

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                          Winger
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                          #392

                          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                          @Winger ??

                          I want the team linked to your first post

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                            #393

                            Seems the Canes are hogging too many good midfielders, that is a lot of talent there that could be sitting on the bench or not at all.

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                            • WingerW Winger

                              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                              @Winger ??

                              I want the team linked to your first post

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                              Canes4life
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                              #394

                              @Winger sorry what post is that?

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @Winger sorry what post is that?

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                                Stargazer
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                                @Canes4life The first post of this entire thread.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @Canes4life The first post of this entire thread.

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                                  @Stargazer oh righto.

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                                    cgrant
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                                    Ben Grant, an Aussie who did not set the world on fire during the NPC, selected but Dom Bird left outside the squad, that's weird.

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                                      Ben Grant, an Aussie who did not set the world on fire during the NPC, selected but Dom Bird left outside the squad, that's weird.

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                                      Blunders
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                                      @cgrant agreed that is strange. Bird is over 2m tall and probably super level quality. 32 so not very old but more on the experienced end. They should learn from the Boks who do not dispose of old players but rather incorporate them to help build the culture and mentor younger players.

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                                        Ben Grant, an Aussie who did not set the world on fire during the NPC, selected but Dom Bird left outside the squad, that's weird.

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                                        @cgrant selecting an Aussie over a Kiwi aswell is questionable in my book. Ben Grant has the height but he seems to be too skinny for Super. He’ll need to put on a few kegs.

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                                        • chimoausC chimoaus

                                          Seems the Canes are hogging too many good midfielders, that is a lot of talent there that could be sitting on the bench or not at all.

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                                          @chimoaus No different from the Saders in the 2000s hogging all the 10s

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