All Blacks 2025
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@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:
Would love to see Leroy Carter selected as a wing and halfback cover great option for a 6-2 bench split
Did a great job for Bay of Plenty last year , it’s not as if the options under Hotham are jumping out at us .I'm not against this in principal but if Carter is to be selected as genuine halfback cover for the All Blacks then he needs to be playing halfback at Super level (or for BOP at the very least).
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:
Would love to see Leroy Carter selected as a wing and halfback cover great option for a 6-2 bench split
Did a great job for Bay of Plenty last year , it’s not as if the options under Hotham are jumping out at us .I'm not against this in principal but if Carter is to be selected as genuine halfback cover for the All Blacks then he needs to be playing halfback at Super level (or for BOP at the very least).
To be fair....Jordie wasn't playing wing at SR level when he was deemed one for the ABs
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@Bones know you're being facetious but that's sort of my point. Wing isn't anywhere near as specialised a position as halfback. We know what Carter can do on the wing so if Razor's want a 6/2 bench option and sees Carter as a potential asset in that from then he should be encouraging him to play halfback now.
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I was actually going to float the Carter as a wing/halfback option last night - this tour seems like the perfect place to do it.
Frankly I’m not convinced by Roe or any of the other options so why not take a little bit of a risk.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
Can't wait until we can roll out a starting side of just Faingaanuku and Higgins and annihilate every other side. Should save NZR a fair bit of money too.
What with LF being incredible in a long, turgid competition and Higgins having fixed the hole in the ozone at age group level, AB rugby is safe for many years to come.
Pffft, don’t even need LF.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones know you're being facetious but that's sort of my point. Wing isn't anywhere near as specialised a position as halfback. We know what Carter can do on the wing so if Razor's want a 6/2 bench option and sees Carter as a potential asset in that from then he should be encouraging him to play halfback now.
If a number 8 can make the late switch to halfback and become I world cup winner, it can't be that specialised.
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@zedsdeadbaby Grant Williams covers both wing and halfback for the Boks
Leroy was primarily used as halfback cover for Bop last year , would start on the wing and then shift to 9 in the last 20
Carter can play 9 and offers something completely different with his pace -
Adam Lennox has also played a fairbit of wing and fullback for Taranaki and the Landers.
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:
Adam Lennox has also played a fairbit of wing and fullback for Taranaki and the Landers.
He actually does same for his club.
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@Bones didn't Richie have a non-playing sabbatical?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
Can't wait until we can roll out a starting side of just Faingaanuku and Higgins and annihilate every other side. Should save NZR a fair bit of money too.
What with LF being incredible in a long, turgid competition and Higgins having fixed the hole in the ozone at age group level, AB rugby is safe for many years to come.
For fucks sake, Bones, calm down
You'll be comparing these two to Cam Roigard next.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones didn't Richie have a non-playing sabbatical?
He did, as did Codie Taylor for most of super just 2 years ago.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:
I don't mind players that have put in the time to the ABs getting a break. It's helps those players last longer and recover from all the contact.
But players like that Mounga and LF that leave early? They can fuck right off.
Faingaʻanuku has played a total of seven tests (two of which were against Namibia and Uruguay) and wasn't deemed good enough for the 23 in the World Cup semi-final or final before he left. Talk of him walking straight back into the squad doesn't sit right.
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@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
I was actually going to float the Carter as a wing/halfback option last night - this tour seems like the perfect place to do it.
Frankly I’m not convinced by Roe or any of the other options so why not take a little bit of a risk.
The difference between a 6/2 split with Carter or a specialist halfback on the bench, given the current starting group, is really only whether or not Jordan stays at fullback or has to move to the wing if one of the starting wings is injured. If Carter starts on the wing and covers halfback from there, however, is where this could be handy, with a first-five/fullback and a midfield back on the bench.
