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2025 All Blacks v France series

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  • B brodean

    @canefan

    ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

    BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

    I'd go with:

    Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
    Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
    Rieko Ioane (Blues)
    Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
    AJ Lam (Blues)

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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    @canefan

    ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

    BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

    I'd go with:

    Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
    Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
    Rieko Ioane (Blues)
    Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
    AJ Lam (Blues)

    He racked up a couple in tests IIRC

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      #151

      Some midfield attack stats:

      Gainline %
      79.5% AJ Lam
      76.7% Xavi Taele
      75.7% Riley Higgins
      67.9% Sam Gilbert
      67.7% Gideon Wrampling
      65.5% Corey Evans
      64.9% Rieko Ioane
      63.7% Quinn Tupaea
      62.0% Lalomilo Lalomilo
      61.5% David Havili
      60.9% Leicester Fainga'anuku
      60.8% Tanielu Tele'a
      60.5% Daniel Rona
      60.3% Billy Proctor
      60.2% Peter Umaga-Jensen
      59.6% Levi Aumua
      58.0% Bailyn Sullivan
      54.0% Jordie Barrett
      54.0% Anton Lienert-Brown
      53.6% Braydon Ennor

      Dominant Carry %
      62.3% AJ Lam
      56.8% Sam Gilbert
      54.4% Bailyn Sullivan
      52.5% Leicester Fainga'anuku
      52.2% Tanielu Tele'a
      51.2% Peter Umaga-Jensen
      48.0% Gideon Wrampling
      41.2% Quinn Tupaea
      39.7% Lalomilo Lalomilo
      37.8% Rieko Ioane
      37.0% Corey Evans
      35.5% Tamati Tua
      35.3% Billy Proctor
      34.5% Timoci Tavatavanawai
      34.3% Riley Higgins
      34.1% Jordie Barrett
      32.0% Braydon Ennor
      31.8% Levi Aumua
      31.0% Xavi Taele
      29.7% Daniel Rona

      Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
      74.0% AJ Lam
      70.8% Timoci Tavatavanawai
      70.2% Levi Aumua
      67.5% Quinn Tupaea
      66.3% Leicester Fainga'anuku
      64.0% Anton Lienert-Brown
      62.4% Peter Umaga-Jensen
      59.1% Bailyn Sullivan
      58.6% Billy Proctor
      58.1% Tanielu Tele'a
      58.1% Gideon Wrampling
      53.5% Lalomilo Lalomilo
      53.5% Xavi Taele
      50.5% Rieko Ioane
      50.0% Jordie Barrett
      50.0% Braydon Ennor
      48.6% Riley Higgins
      48.5% Tamati Tua
      42.3% David Havili
      38.3% Daniel Rona

      Tackle Evasion %
      44.8% Billy Proctor
      35.3% AJ Lam
      34.8% Timoci Tavatavanawai
      31.0% David Havili
      30.6% Leicester Fainga'anuku
      28.4% Tanielu Tele'a
      27.7% Sam Gilbert
      27.0% Levi Aumua
      26.7% Peter Umaga-Jensen
      26.4% Corey Evans
      26.3% Jordie Barrett
      25.9% Anton Lienert-Brown
      25.6% Bailyn Sullivan
      25.0% Braydon Ennor
      23.6% Lalomilo Lalomilo
      22.9% Tamati Tua
      21.7% Gideon Wrampling
      21.3% Daniel Rona
      18.8% Riley Higgins
      18.7% Quinn Tupaea
      15.9% Xavi Taele
      12.6% Rieko Ioane

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      • B brodean

        Some midfield attack stats:

        Gainline %
        79.5% AJ Lam
        76.7% Xavi Taele
        75.7% Riley Higgins
        67.9% Sam Gilbert
        67.7% Gideon Wrampling
        65.5% Corey Evans
        64.9% Rieko Ioane
        63.7% Quinn Tupaea
        62.0% Lalomilo Lalomilo
        61.5% David Havili
        60.9% Leicester Fainga'anuku
        60.8% Tanielu Tele'a
        60.5% Daniel Rona
        60.3% Billy Proctor
        60.2% Peter Umaga-Jensen
        59.6% Levi Aumua
        58.0% Bailyn Sullivan
        54.0% Jordie Barrett
        54.0% Anton Lienert-Brown
        53.6% Braydon Ennor

        Dominant Carry %
        62.3% AJ Lam
        56.8% Sam Gilbert
        54.4% Bailyn Sullivan
        52.5% Leicester Fainga'anuku
        52.2% Tanielu Tele'a
        51.2% Peter Umaga-Jensen
        48.0% Gideon Wrampling
        41.2% Quinn Tupaea
        39.7% Lalomilo Lalomilo
        37.8% Rieko Ioane
        37.0% Corey Evans
        35.5% Tamati Tua
        35.3% Billy Proctor
        34.5% Timoci Tavatavanawai
        34.3% Riley Higgins
        34.1% Jordie Barrett
        32.0% Braydon Ennor
        31.8% Levi Aumua
        31.0% Xavi Taele
        29.7% Daniel Rona

        Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
        74.0% AJ Lam
        70.8% Timoci Tavatavanawai
        70.2% Levi Aumua
        67.5% Quinn Tupaea
        66.3% Leicester Fainga'anuku
        64.0% Anton Lienert-Brown
        62.4% Peter Umaga-Jensen
        59.1% Bailyn Sullivan
        58.6% Billy Proctor
        58.1% Tanielu Tele'a
        58.1% Gideon Wrampling
        53.5% Lalomilo Lalomilo
        53.5% Xavi Taele
        50.5% Rieko Ioane
        50.0% Jordie Barrett
        50.0% Braydon Ennor
        48.6% Riley Higgins
        48.5% Tamati Tua
        42.3% David Havili
        38.3% Daniel Rona

        Tackle Evasion %
        44.8% Billy Proctor
        35.3% AJ Lam
        34.8% Timoci Tavatavanawai
        31.0% David Havili
        30.6% Leicester Fainga'anuku
        28.4% Tanielu Tele'a
        27.7% Sam Gilbert
        27.0% Levi Aumua
        26.7% Peter Umaga-Jensen
        26.4% Corey Evans
        26.3% Jordie Barrett
        25.9% Anton Lienert-Brown
        25.6% Bailyn Sullivan
        25.0% Braydon Ennor
        23.6% Lalomilo Lalomilo
        22.9% Tamati Tua
        21.7% Gideon Wrampling
        21.3% Daniel Rona
        18.8% Riley Higgins
        18.7% Quinn Tupaea
        15.9% Xavi Taele
        12.6% Rieko Ioane

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        @brodean Those stats are pretty interesting in the context that I'll be pretty surprised if our midfield for the first test vs France is anything other than the tried and trusted combo of Jordie and Rieko.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @brodean Those stats are pretty interesting in the context that I'll be pretty surprised if our midfield for the first test vs France is anything other than the tried and trusted combo of Jordie and Rieko.

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          #153

          @Chris-B

          Yeah I'd be stunned if it wasn't Jordie and RIeko.

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            As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

            But it's not. And he won't.

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            • B brodean

              Some midfield attack stats:

              Gainline %
              79.5% AJ Lam
              76.7% Xavi Taele
              75.7% Riley Higgins
              67.9% Sam Gilbert
              67.7% Gideon Wrampling
              65.5% Corey Evans
              64.9% Rieko Ioane
              63.7% Quinn Tupaea
              62.0% Lalomilo Lalomilo
              61.5% David Havili
              60.9% Leicester Fainga'anuku
              60.8% Tanielu Tele'a
              60.5% Daniel Rona
              60.3% Billy Proctor
              60.2% Peter Umaga-Jensen
              59.6% Levi Aumua
              58.0% Bailyn Sullivan
              54.0% Jordie Barrett
              54.0% Anton Lienert-Brown
              53.6% Braydon Ennor

              Dominant Carry %
              62.3% AJ Lam
              56.8% Sam Gilbert
              54.4% Bailyn Sullivan
              52.5% Leicester Fainga'anuku
              52.2% Tanielu Tele'a
              51.2% Peter Umaga-Jensen
              48.0% Gideon Wrampling
              41.2% Quinn Tupaea
              39.7% Lalomilo Lalomilo
              37.8% Rieko Ioane
              37.0% Corey Evans
              35.5% Tamati Tua
              35.3% Billy Proctor
              34.5% Timoci Tavatavanawai
              34.3% Riley Higgins
              34.1% Jordie Barrett
              32.0% Braydon Ennor
              31.8% Levi Aumua
              31.0% Xavi Taele
              29.7% Daniel Rona

              Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
              74.0% AJ Lam
              70.8% Timoci Tavatavanawai
              70.2% Levi Aumua
              67.5% Quinn Tupaea
              66.3% Leicester Fainga'anuku
              64.0% Anton Lienert-Brown
              62.4% Peter Umaga-Jensen
              59.1% Bailyn Sullivan
              58.6% Billy Proctor
              58.1% Tanielu Tele'a
              58.1% Gideon Wrampling
              53.5% Lalomilo Lalomilo
              53.5% Xavi Taele
              50.5% Rieko Ioane
              50.0% Jordie Barrett
              50.0% Braydon Ennor
              48.6% Riley Higgins
              48.5% Tamati Tua
              42.3% David Havili
              38.3% Daniel Rona

              Tackle Evasion %
              44.8% Billy Proctor
              35.3% AJ Lam
              34.8% Timoci Tavatavanawai
              31.0% David Havili
              30.6% Leicester Fainga'anuku
              28.4% Tanielu Tele'a
              27.7% Sam Gilbert
              27.0% Levi Aumua
              26.7% Peter Umaga-Jensen
              26.4% Corey Evans
              26.3% Jordie Barrett
              25.9% Anton Lienert-Brown
              25.6% Bailyn Sullivan
              25.0% Braydon Ennor
              23.6% Lalomilo Lalomilo
              22.9% Tamati Tua
              21.7% Gideon Wrampling
              21.3% Daniel Rona
              18.8% Riley Higgins
              18.7% Quinn Tupaea
              15.9% Xavi Taele
              12.6% Rieko Ioane

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              #155

              @brodean are those blended over multiple seasons or different comps?

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @brodean are those blended over multiple seasons or different comps?

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                #156

                @taniwharugby the stats are for this Super Rugby season only https://theanalyst.com/club-rugby-stats

                I haven't updated them from a couple of weeks ago so there might be a few changes.

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                • B brodean

                  @taniwharugby the stats are for this Super Rugby season only https://theanalyst.com/club-rugby-stats

                  I haven't updated them from a couple of weeks ago so there might be a few changes.

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                  KiwiMurph
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                  #157

                  @brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

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                    #158

                    @KiwiMurph Yes URC, Fainga'anuku Top 14

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      @canefan

                      ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

                      BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

                      I'd go with:

                      Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
                      Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
                      Rieko Ioane (Blues)
                      Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
                      AJ Lam (Blues)

                      He racked up a couple in tests IIRC

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                      #159

                      @canefan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      @canefan

                      ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

                      BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

                      I'd go with:

                      Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
                      Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
                      Rieko Ioane (Blues)
                      Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
                      AJ Lam (Blues)

                      He racked up a couple in tests IIRC

                      3 YCs across the year, I think, against:

                      Australia at Accor (65th minute, they scored straight away and we went down to 13 for a bit there)]
                      Off the bench

                      England at Twickenham (78th minute that nearly cost the match)
                      Off the bench

                      Italy (50th minute)
                      Started the match

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @canefan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                        @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                        @canefan

                        ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

                        BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

                        I'd go with:

                        Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
                        Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
                        Rieko Ioane (Blues)
                        Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
                        AJ Lam (Blues)

                        He racked up a couple in tests IIRC

                        3 YCs across the year, I think, against:

                        Australia at Accor (65th minute, they scored straight away and we went down to 13 for a bit there)]
                        Off the bench

                        England at Twickenham (78th minute that nearly cost the match)
                        Off the bench

                        Italy (50th minute)
                        Started the match

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                        @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

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                          @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

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                          @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                          @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                          Two off the bench
                          Post edited accordingly

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                            @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                            Two off the bench
                            Post edited accordingly

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                            @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                            Two off the bench
                            Post edited accordingly

                            So either start him and replace him at halftime, or bring him off the bench in the 79th minute. Problem solved.

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                              @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                              Two off the bench
                              Post edited accordingly

                              So either start him and replace him at halftime, or bring him off the bench in the 79th minute. Problem solved.

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                              @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                              Two off the bench
                              Post edited accordingly

                              So either start him and replace him at halftime, or bring him off the bench in the 79th minute. Problem solved.

                              His YC per minute played stat would be fun to calculate

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                                a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                                  a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                                  @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                  a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                                  Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

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                                  • P ploughboy

                                    a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                                    @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                    a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                                    Against Italy, he was co-captain I believe , we were on a warning and he ripped the ball after being told to let it go by the ref.

                                    Barrett also got a Yc in that game I think.

                                    The thread is a good read.

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                                      a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                                      @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                      a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                                      Against Oz, I cant remember and the thread isn’t much help 🎣 Quite some discussion of his lack of leadership though

                                      It was for hands in the ruck, according to the newspaper.

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                                      • B brodean

                                        @Chris-B

                                        Yeah I'd be stunned if it wasn't Jordie and RIeko.

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                                        @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        @Chris-B

                                        Yeah I'd be stunned if it wasn't Jordie and RIeko.

                                        I am kinda shocked by PUJ's versus Rieko's stats.
                                        It might be helpful if they were labelled at 12 or 13 but I guess too much work to separate when they've played both.

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                                          Yeah it was quite surprising to see guys that have regularly made big breaks, appear quite far down the gainline success stats

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