All Blacks 2025
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1,3,5,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,15 all look like fucking children. Fuck it must be hard putting 5 kilos on as a professional athlete. Dmac must just love being undersized
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2025:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?
I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.
Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.
And the team is a bunch of fucking midgets from 1-15
This is a big part of the problem. The Springbok pack was 20 kg bigger than New Zealand's and I imagine the backs also have a similar weight/size advantage.
The Springboks were always able to get yards after contact whereas the ABs could not get that same type of power. Over the course of 80 mins it must be so depleting being in collisions with people who are always (on average) bigger than you.
Matera off the back of the scrum in Argentina and Ezterhuizen today.
No sidestep was even considered. Full steam into McKenzie.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
My prediction is there will be a couple of scapegoats at the end of the year - Hansen & Ellison.
Holland would have to be the most at risk as the backline isn't functioning. But if Hansen is the BB fanboy selector then he should go too.
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@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
Is Darry available for the next game? Would be an upgrade on the shit served up today.
I think Va’ai and Holland are the starting locks. Patty T (when fit) is the impact lock (and brings leadership off the bench). That is tough on Scott Barrett, but he needs to work himself back into form and being a starter.
Which means ABs need a new captain. And I’m not sure who that is. I don’t think it should be Savea, because again the coaches need to get the backrow balance right.
Cody Taylor maybe in the interim? When fit, he’s a certain starter. If not Taylor, then who? Because there aren’t many players in the squad that scream certain starter and inspirational leader
Tuipulotu and Holland have been the best combo this year. Vaai missed 5 tackles yesterday.
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Has Razor lost the dressing room?
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
Has Razor lost the dressing room?
I haven't heard any of the players come out to bat for him the way they did for Fozzie....
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Another thing, and I bought the point up earlier about him staying in Super Rugby too long, but we were told by his boys in the media and his fanboys especially in Chch that he loves a challenge and that he's full of innovation. Would sitting on his cozy little chair at the Crusaders for 7 years in a fairly weak SR competition suggest that this isn't the case? Maybe the media and former/current players who clearly read this forum could find out for us?
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
My prediction is there will be a couple of scapegoats at the end of the year - Hansen & Ellison.
Holland would have to be the most at risk as the backline isn't functioning. But if Hansen is the BB fanboy selector then he should go too.
Sure but the defense coach is also clearly out of his depth.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
Has Razor lost the dressing room?
I haven't heard any of the players come out to bat for him the way they did for Fozzie....
Just the way they gave up last night suggested to me that they didn't care.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
Let's not go down the "Sack Foster - he's the root of all the problems in NZ rugby" road again. We all know how that worked out with Coach Jesus
Take a deep breath, stay calm, identify the problems & their causes and then devise and implement an improvement plan. Maybe some short-term actions - just make sure they aren't kicking cans down the road.
How to (unknowingly?) contradict yourself in two paragraphs.
It's abundantly clear that the root of all problems is the head coach and the moronic minions he's assembled.
They selected these players. Apparently they also developed a game plan and coached them.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean The idea that he's in good form is pure delusion.
Sititi is certainly having a bit of second year dip, but it's to be expected, especially given his injury and the fact that he wasn't actually that good on his return. He's not a super worker style 8, so I'm not sure what they are trying to achieve by playing Savea and Sititi together.
Sititi is out of form because the coaching team told him to gain 20kgs.
And he listened to them, and now at his bigger size he has lost literally all the dynamism and skillset he leveraged last year where he was almost unplayable.
Genius.
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@kpkanz said in All Blacks 2025:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean The idea that he's in good form is pure delusion.
Sititi is certainly having a bit of second year dip, but it's to be expected, especially given his injury and the fact that he wasn't actually that good on his return. He's not a super worker style 8, so I'm not sure what they are trying to achieve by playing Savea and Sititi together.
Sititi is out of form because the coaching team told him to gain 20kgs.
And he listened to them, and now at his bigger size he has lost literally all the dynamism and skillset he leveraged last year where he was almost unplayable.
Genius.
How the fuck did he gain 20 kgs shit is he 130 kgs now.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?
I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.
Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.
We don't value the ball, menstruation.
Reckless kicking combined with disinterested chase is our game plan. The fuck?
THIS.
People don't seem to understand how moronic our gameplan is.
We literally give the ball to the opposition, and let them attack relentlessly.
This result has been coming for a long time, and it's well deserved.
We actually tried to play a bit starting the game, and actually looked good, but it seemed the Kolbe intercept scared us back into our 50 IQ box kick strat.
Note btw, Wayne Smith, in a recent interview said there is nothing he hates more than the box kick, to the point that the teams he coached in Japan, he banned the players from box kicking, under ANY circumstance.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
How the fuck did he gain 20 kgs shit is he 130 kgs now.
Perhaps 20kg was hyperbole. Probably closer to 10kg.
Point being, there are interviews from this year where he is talking about getting used to playing with his new additional weight and figuring things out.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@stodders There's got to be a defence coach we can get.
Fuck me I am sick of hearing about how we are playing good defensive patterns when we regularly ship 30+.
It's because of our core game plan.
You can have a good defense and still ship 30 if your core game plan is blind box kicks and giving the ball to the other team to attack you for 80 minutes.
Not saying there aren't defensive structural issues btw..but that many problems stem from our core game plan issue currently.
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@kpkanz said in All Blacks 2025:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean The idea that he's in good form is pure delusion.
Sititi is certainly having a bit of second year dip, but it's to be expected, especially given his injury and the fact that he wasn't actually that good on his return. He's not a super worker style 8, so I'm not sure what they are trying to achieve by playing Savea and Sititi together.
Sititi is out of form because the coaching team told him to gain 20kgs.
And he listened to them, and now at his bigger size he has lost literally all the dynamism and skillset he leveraged last year where he was almost unplayable.
Genius.
What’s the source for this? I’ve heard it mentioned but not seen it anywhere.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks 2025:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean The idea that he's in good form is pure delusion.
Sititi is certainly having a bit of second year dip, but it's to be expected, especially given his injury and the fact that he wasn't actually that good on his return. He's not a super worker style 8, so I'm not sure what they are trying to achieve by playing Savea and Sititi together.
Sititi is out of form because the coaching team told him to gain 20kgs.
And he listened to them, and now at his bigger size he has lost literally all the dynamism and skillset he leveraged last year where he was almost unplayable.
Genius.
What’s the source for this? I’ve heard it mentioned but not seen it anywhere.
He doesnt look 20 kg's heavier from my barstool.
Thats 3 stone.
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I know this is an ice cold take, but I actually want Mo’unga back now.
Let’s give Razor no excuse. If we see that his coaching genius is reliant on certain players to unlock it, who cares if we start looking like a winning team.
I doubt that the injection of one player would change things much, but we won’t have - prediction time - a refrain of being able to point to the future, which I believe will be the new story emerging from the NZ rugby media.
