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  • TimT Tim

    @Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?

    Yes

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @Kirwan or Whitelock

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      #1244

      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Kirwan or Whitelock

      Probably the safest pick

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        A loose head (can scrum.and run)
        ST
        Ofa
        Lord
        Whitelock
        Akira
        Cane
        Sotutu
        Smith
        Barrett
        Clark
        RYS
        RI
        Reece
        Jordan

        Coles
        A Hodgeman
        A tight head
        T Vaa'i
        A Savea
        Christie
        Mounga
        J Barrett

        Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

        If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
        And we're gonna run and bash things.

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        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

        A loose head (can scrum.and run)
        ST
        Ofa
        Lord
        Whitelock
        Akira
        Cane
        Sotutu
        Smith
        Barrett
        Clark
        RYS
        RI
        Reece
        Jordan

        Coles
        A Hodgeman
        A tight head
        T Vaa'i
        A Savea
        Christie
        Mounga
        J Barrett

        Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

        If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
        And we're gonna run and bash things.

        Good selection, but I wouldn't have RTS (assume you made a typo) in the team until he has a few more games under his belt. Be good to have him in the squad though to get experience as he seems a real prospect.

        I think Foster will go with Goodhue at 12 and QT as backup. Agree with Cane, though it's a bit hard on Papalii, as we seem to play better with a fully-firing Sam.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

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          #1246

          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

          Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

          Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            So who’s captain if not Cane?

            He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

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            wrote on last edited by
            #1247

            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

            So who’s captain if not Cane?

            He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

            Dalton.

            Go all in.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              So who’s captain if not Cane?

              He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

              Dalton.

              Go all in.

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              #1248

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              So who’s captain if not Cane?

              He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

              Dalton.

              Go all in.

              I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

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                MN5
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                #1249

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                  Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                  Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

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                  canefan
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                  #1250

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                  Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                  Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                  He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                    Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                    Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                    He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                    MN5M Online
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                    MN5
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1251

                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                    Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                    Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                    He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                    Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                      Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                      Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                      He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                      Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1252

                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                      Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                      Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                      He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                      Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

                      Cantab

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                        Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                        Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                        He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                        Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

                        Cantab

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                        MN5
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                        #1253

                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                        Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                        Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                        He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                        Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

                        Cantab

                        You move here, you’re from here. Stop ruining my reminiscing with facts.

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                          #1254

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/the-one-two-punch-that-could-ignite-the-all-blacks-attack/

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                            Duluth
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                            #1255

                            Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

                            Smith, Christie & someone new

                            Time to move on from TJ & Weber

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                              cgrant
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                              #1256

                              On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                              De Groot
                              ST
                              Ofa T
                              Sangster
                              Lord
                              Ioane
                              Papali'i
                              Sotutu
                              Ratima
                              Perofeta
                              Clarke
                              TUJ
                              Ioane
                              Jordan
                              Barrett

                              Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

                              Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

                                Smith, Christie & someone new

                                Time to move on from TJ & Weber

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                                Bovidae
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                                #1257

                                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

                                Smith, Christie & someone new

                                And there are plenty of tests left to develop that 3rd halfback before the RWC, and beyond 2023.

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                                • C cgrant

                                  On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                                  De Groot
                                  ST
                                  Ofa T
                                  Sangster
                                  Lord
                                  Ioane
                                  Papali'i
                                  Sotutu
                                  Ratima
                                  Perofeta
                                  Clarke
                                  TUJ
                                  Ioane
                                  Jordan
                                  Barrett

                                  Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

                                  Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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                                  Bones
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                                  #1258

                                  @cgrant pretty hard to justify Barrett at fullback on form but otherwise good...

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                    He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                    Dalton.

                                    Go all in.

                                    I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

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                                    booboo
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1259

                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                    He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                    Dalton.

                                    Go all in.

                                    I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                                    Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

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                                    • C cgrant

                                      On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                                      De Groot
                                      ST
                                      Ofa T
                                      Sangster
                                      Lord
                                      Ioane
                                      Papali'i
                                      Sotutu
                                      Ratima
                                      Perofeta
                                      Clarke
                                      TUJ
                                      Ioane
                                      Jordan
                                      Barrett

                                      Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

                                      Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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                                      Frank
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                                      #1260

                                      @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                                      De Groot
                                      ST
                                      Ofa T
                                      Sangster
                                      Lord
                                      Ioane
                                      Papali'i
                                      Sotutu
                                      Ratima
                                      Perofeta
                                      Clarke
                                      TUJ
                                      Ioane
                                      Jordan
                                      Barrett

                                      This guy good enough to be an AB?

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                        He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                        Dalton.

                                        Go all in.

                                        I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                                        Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

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                                        Kirwan
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                                        #1261

                                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                        He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                        Dalton.

                                        Go all in.

                                        I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                                        Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

                                        More referring to being given the captaincy so early on.

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                                        • F Frank

                                          @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                                          De Groot
                                          ST
                                          Ofa T
                                          Sangster
                                          Lord
                                          Ioane
                                          Papali'i
                                          Sotutu
                                          Ratima
                                          Perofeta
                                          Clarke
                                          TUJ
                                          Ioane
                                          Jordan
                                          Barrett

                                          This guy good enough to be an AB?

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                                          cgrant
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1262

                                          @Frank
                                          Not yet, that's for sure, but it is a form XV, not a possible AB team.

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