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AB EOYT 2018

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  • BonesB Bones

    @chris-b what was Jordan doing during super rugby?

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    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @chris-b what was Jordan doing during super rugby?

    Out with concussion from previous year's NPC.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @chris-b what was Jordan doing during super rugby?

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      @bones He had concussion issues and was kept away.

      Bridge should take NMS role in the EOYT squad. I'd like to see Bridge tried at 14 in the 'second fullback' role.

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        Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @bones Haven't watched much of him in the NPC.

          He went OK in Super rugby, but it didn't remotely cross my mind that he was ready to step up to the ABs.

          Bridge and Mataele were the ones who were more impressive for the Crusaders - but, what I've seen of Mataele in NPC - he's been pretty awful.

          I would pick Bridge ahead of all of them.

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          @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

          @bones Haven't watched much of him in the NPC.

          He went OK in Super rugby, but it didn't remotely cross my mind that he was ready to step up to the ABs.

          Bridge and Mataele were the ones who were more impressive for the Crusaders - but, what I've seen of Mataele in NPC - he's been pretty awful.

          I would pick Bridge ahead of all of them.

          Mataele has been struggling with injuries right from the start of the season, so he hasn't really had regular game time. It's no surprise that he hasn't impressed much. "Awful" is an exaggeration IMO.

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....

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            @act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:

            Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....

            Yeah that was my thinking.

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              Reading between the lines this will be the core 32 man squad and not the additionals for the Japan test.

              The #AllBlacks squad for the Vista 2018 Northern Tour will be named on Monday.
              
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                Reading between the lines this will be the core 32 man squad and not the additionals for the Japan test.

                The #AllBlacks squad for the Vista 2018 Northern Tour will be named on Monday.
                
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                @kiwimurph yeah I guess they'll await injuries etc in the NPC finals before confirming

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                  All answered here:

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                    Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

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                    • M Machpants

                      Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

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                      @machpants said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

                      18 players and a halfback

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                        Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                        Hookers
                        Dane Coles
                        Nathan Harris
                        Codie Taylor

                        Props
                        Owen Franks
                        Joe Moody
                        Tim Perry
                        Karl Tu'inukuafe
                        Ofa Tuungafasi

                        Locks
                        Scott Barrett
                        Brodie Retallick
                        Samuel Whitelock

                        Loose Forwards
                        Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                        Shannon Frizell
                        Jackson Hemopo
                        Kieran Read
                        Ardie Savea
                        Liam Squire
                        Luke Whitelock

                        Halfbacks
                        TJ Perenara
                        Aaron Smith
                        Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                        First five-eighths
                        Beauden Barrett
                        Damian McKenzie
                        Richie Mo'unga

                        Midfielders
                        Ryan Crotty
                        Jack Goodhue
                        Anton Lienert-Brown
                        Sonny Bill Williams

                        Outside backs
                        Jordie Barrett
                        Rieko Ioane
                        Nehe Milner-Skudder
                        Waisake Naholo
                        Ben Smith

                        So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                        • A akan004

                          @cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.

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                          @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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                            @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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                            @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

                            @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

                            Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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                              Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                              Hookers
                              Dane Coles
                              Nathan Harris
                              Codie Taylor

                              Props
                              Owen Franks
                              Joe Moody
                              Tim Perry
                              Karl Tu'inukuafe
                              Ofa Tuungafasi

                              Locks
                              Scott Barrett
                              Brodie Retallick
                              Samuel Whitelock

                              Loose Forwards
                              Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                              Shannon Frizell
                              Jackson Hemopo
                              Kieran Read
                              Ardie Savea
                              Liam Squire
                              Luke Whitelock

                              Halfbacks
                              TJ Perenara
                              Aaron Smith
                              Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                              First five-eighths
                              Beauden Barrett
                              Damian McKenzie
                              Richie Mo'unga

                              Midfielders
                              Ryan Crotty
                              Jack Goodhue
                              Anton Lienert-Brown
                              Sonny Bill Williams

                              Outside backs
                              Jordie Barrett
                              Rieko Ioane
                              Nehe Milner-Skudder
                              Waisake Naholo
                              Ben Smith

                              So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                              @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                              I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                                I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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                                @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                                I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

                                NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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                                  @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                  @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                                  I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

                                  NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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                                  @nzzp I think the real selectors are just generally a bit more conservative than the armchair selectors, when it comes to dropping the axe on players. Don't want to be calling up, discarding, recalling....etc.

                                  So they give their players plenty of rope.

                                  But if they're going to introduce new players into the mix before RWC, they're pretty close to the last chance saloon. And, I think NMS has been in both the France and Rugby Championship squads - and they've given him one game. Which doesn't seem like a huge vote of confidence.

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                                    Even though NMS is lucky to be in the AB squad I wouldn't be selecting a replacement for him in the 32. That's what Hansen is going to do with the extra 18.5 players, bring them into camp for a closer look and give some an opportunity vs Japan.

                                    The likes of NMS, Hemopo and Akira will have 2 bites at the cherry as they can play for the Maori in their later games if not on the AB tour.

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                                      @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                      @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

                                      Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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                                      @akan004 I think Strange was more dominant in first few games, while Parkinson has played well in last few (in comparing two)

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                                        Parkinson looks to have the best potential of the two. With an addition of 3 or 4 kgs, he could look like BBBR and why not, play like BBBR !

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                                          Hookers
                                          Dane Coles
                                          Nathan Harris
                                          Codie Taylor

                                          Props
                                          Owen Franks
                                          Joe Moody
                                          Tim Perry
                                          Karl Tu'inukuafe
                                          Ofa Tuungafasi

                                          Locks
                                          Scott Barrett
                                          Brodie Retallick
                                          Samuel Whitelock

                                          Loose Forwards
                                          Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                                          Shannon Frizell
                                          Jackson Hemopo
                                          Kieran Read
                                          Ardie Savea
                                          Liam Squire
                                          Luke Whitelock

                                          Halfbacks
                                          TJ Perenara
                                          Aaron Smith
                                          Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                                          First five-eighths
                                          Beauden Barrett
                                          Damian McKenzie
                                          Richie Mo'unga

                                          Midfielders
                                          Ryan Crotty
                                          Jack Goodhue
                                          Anton Lienert-Brown
                                          Sonny Bill Williams

                                          Outside backs
                                          Jordie Barrett
                                          Rieko Ioane
                                          Nehe Milner-Skudder
                                          Waisake Naholo
                                          Ben Smith

                                          So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                                          @bovidae

                                          Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                          I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                          I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                          Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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