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AB EOYT 2018

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @bones Haven't watched much of him in the NPC.

    He went OK in Super rugby, but it didn't remotely cross my mind that he was ready to step up to the ABs.

    Bridge and Mataele were the ones who were more impressive for the Crusaders - but, what I've seen of Mataele in NPC - he's been pretty awful.

    I would pick Bridge ahead of all of them.

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    @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bones Haven't watched much of him in the NPC.

    He went OK in Super rugby, but it didn't remotely cross my mind that he was ready to step up to the ABs.

    Bridge and Mataele were the ones who were more impressive for the Crusaders - but, what I've seen of Mataele in NPC - he's been pretty awful.

    I would pick Bridge ahead of all of them.

    Mataele has been struggling with injuries right from the start of the season, so he hasn't really had regular game time. It's no surprise that he hasn't impressed much. "Awful" is an exaggeration IMO.

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....

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      @act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:

      Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....

      Yeah that was my thinking.

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        Reading between the lines this will be the core 32 man squad and not the additionals for the Japan test.

        The #AllBlacks squad for the Vista 2018 Northern Tour will be named on Monday.
        
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          Reading between the lines this will be the core 32 man squad and not the additionals for the Japan test.

          The #AllBlacks squad for the Vista 2018 Northern Tour will be named on Monday.
          
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          @kiwimurph yeah I guess they'll await injuries etc in the NPC finals before confirming

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            All answered here:

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              Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

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              • M Machpants

                Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

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                @machpants said in AB EOYT 2018:

                Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

                18 players and a halfback

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                  Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                  Hookers
                  Dane Coles
                  Nathan Harris
                  Codie Taylor

                  Props
                  Owen Franks
                  Joe Moody
                  Tim Perry
                  Karl Tu'inukuafe
                  Ofa Tuungafasi

                  Locks
                  Scott Barrett
                  Brodie Retallick
                  Samuel Whitelock

                  Loose Forwards
                  Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                  Shannon Frizell
                  Jackson Hemopo
                  Kieran Read
                  Ardie Savea
                  Liam Squire
                  Luke Whitelock

                  Halfbacks
                  TJ Perenara
                  Aaron Smith
                  Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                  First five-eighths
                  Beauden Barrett
                  Damian McKenzie
                  Richie Mo'unga

                  Midfielders
                  Ryan Crotty
                  Jack Goodhue
                  Anton Lienert-Brown
                  Sonny Bill Williams

                  Outside backs
                  Jordie Barrett
                  Rieko Ioane
                  Nehe Milner-Skudder
                  Waisake Naholo
                  Ben Smith

                  So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                  • A akan004

                    @cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.

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                    @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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                      @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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                      @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

                      Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                        Hookers
                        Dane Coles
                        Nathan Harris
                        Codie Taylor

                        Props
                        Owen Franks
                        Joe Moody
                        Tim Perry
                        Karl Tu'inukuafe
                        Ofa Tuungafasi

                        Locks
                        Scott Barrett
                        Brodie Retallick
                        Samuel Whitelock

                        Loose Forwards
                        Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                        Shannon Frizell
                        Jackson Hemopo
                        Kieran Read
                        Ardie Savea
                        Liam Squire
                        Luke Whitelock

                        Halfbacks
                        TJ Perenara
                        Aaron Smith
                        Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                        First five-eighths
                        Beauden Barrett
                        Damian McKenzie
                        Richie Mo'unga

                        Midfielders
                        Ryan Crotty
                        Jack Goodhue
                        Anton Lienert-Brown
                        Sonny Bill Williams

                        Outside backs
                        Jordie Barrett
                        Rieko Ioane
                        Nehe Milner-Skudder
                        Waisake Naholo
                        Ben Smith

                        So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                        @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                        I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                          I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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                          @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                          I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

                          NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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                            @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                            @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                            I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

                            NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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                            @nzzp I think the real selectors are just generally a bit more conservative than the armchair selectors, when it comes to dropping the axe on players. Don't want to be calling up, discarding, recalling....etc.

                            So they give their players plenty of rope.

                            But if they're going to introduce new players into the mix before RWC, they're pretty close to the last chance saloon. And, I think NMS has been in both the France and Rugby Championship squads - and they've given him one game. Which doesn't seem like a huge vote of confidence.

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                              Even though NMS is lucky to be in the AB squad I wouldn't be selecting a replacement for him in the 32. That's what Hansen is going to do with the extra 18.5 players, bring them into camp for a closer look and give some an opportunity vs Japan.

                              The likes of NMS, Hemopo and Akira will have 2 bites at the cherry as they can play for the Maori in their later games if not on the AB tour.

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                                @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

                                Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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                                @akan004 I think Strange was more dominant in first few games, while Parkinson has played well in last few (in comparing two)

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                                  Parkinson looks to have the best potential of the two. With an addition of 3 or 4 kgs, he could look like BBBR and why not, play like BBBR !

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                                    Hookers
                                    Dane Coles
                                    Nathan Harris
                                    Codie Taylor

                                    Props
                                    Owen Franks
                                    Joe Moody
                                    Tim Perry
                                    Karl Tu'inukuafe
                                    Ofa Tuungafasi

                                    Locks
                                    Scott Barrett
                                    Brodie Retallick
                                    Samuel Whitelock

                                    Loose Forwards
                                    Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                                    Shannon Frizell
                                    Jackson Hemopo
                                    Kieran Read
                                    Ardie Savea
                                    Liam Squire
                                    Luke Whitelock

                                    Halfbacks
                                    TJ Perenara
                                    Aaron Smith
                                    Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                                    First five-eighths
                                    Beauden Barrett
                                    Damian McKenzie
                                    Richie Mo'unga

                                    Midfielders
                                    Ryan Crotty
                                    Jack Goodhue
                                    Anton Lienert-Brown
                                    Sonny Bill Williams

                                    Outside backs
                                    Jordie Barrett
                                    Rieko Ioane
                                    Nehe Milner-Skudder
                                    Waisake Naholo
                                    Ben Smith

                                    So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                                    @bovidae

                                    Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                    I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                    I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                    Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                                      @bovidae

                                      Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                      I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                      I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                      Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                                      @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                      @bovidae

                                      Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                      I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                      I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                      Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                                      I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        @bovidae

                                        Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                        I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                        I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                        Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                                        I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                                        @nepia

                                        But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @nepia

                                          But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                                          @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                          @nepia

                                          But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

                                          Um, so. 😉

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