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AB EOYT 2018

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  • 9 98blueandgold

    @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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    @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

    Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

      Hookers
      Dane Coles
      Nathan Harris
      Codie Taylor

      Props
      Owen Franks
      Joe Moody
      Tim Perry
      Karl Tu'inukuafe
      Ofa Tuungafasi

      Locks
      Scott Barrett
      Brodie Retallick
      Samuel Whitelock

      Loose Forwards
      Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
      Shannon Frizell
      Jackson Hemopo
      Kieran Read
      Ardie Savea
      Liam Squire
      Luke Whitelock

      Halfbacks
      TJ Perenara
      Aaron Smith
      Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

      First five-eighths
      Beauden Barrett
      Damian McKenzie
      Richie Mo'unga

      Midfielders
      Ryan Crotty
      Jack Goodhue
      Anton Lienert-Brown
      Sonny Bill Williams

      Outside backs
      Jordie Barrett
      Rieko Ioane
      Nehe Milner-Skudder
      Waisake Naholo
      Ben Smith

      So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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      @bovidae That will be pretty close.

      I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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        @bovidae That will be pretty close.

        I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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        @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

        @bovidae That will be pretty close.

        I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

        NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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          @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

          @bovidae That will be pretty close.

          I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

          NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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          @nzzp I think the real selectors are just generally a bit more conservative than the armchair selectors, when it comes to dropping the axe on players. Don't want to be calling up, discarding, recalling....etc.

          So they give their players plenty of rope.

          But if they're going to introduce new players into the mix before RWC, they're pretty close to the last chance saloon. And, I think NMS has been in both the France and Rugby Championship squads - and they've given him one game. Which doesn't seem like a huge vote of confidence.

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            Even though NMS is lucky to be in the AB squad I wouldn't be selecting a replacement for him in the 32. That's what Hansen is going to do with the extra 18.5 players, bring them into camp for a closer look and give some an opportunity vs Japan.

            The likes of NMS, Hemopo and Akira will have 2 bites at the cherry as they can play for the Maori in their later games if not on the AB tour.

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              @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

              @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

              Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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              @akan004 I think Strange was more dominant in first few games, while Parkinson has played well in last few (in comparing two)

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                Parkinson looks to have the best potential of the two. With an addition of 3 or 4 kgs, he could look like BBBR and why not, play like BBBR !

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                  Hookers
                  Dane Coles
                  Nathan Harris
                  Codie Taylor

                  Props
                  Owen Franks
                  Joe Moody
                  Tim Perry
                  Karl Tu'inukuafe
                  Ofa Tuungafasi

                  Locks
                  Scott Barrett
                  Brodie Retallick
                  Samuel Whitelock

                  Loose Forwards
                  Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                  Shannon Frizell
                  Jackson Hemopo
                  Kieran Read
                  Ardie Savea
                  Liam Squire
                  Luke Whitelock

                  Halfbacks
                  TJ Perenara
                  Aaron Smith
                  Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                  First five-eighths
                  Beauden Barrett
                  Damian McKenzie
                  Richie Mo'unga

                  Midfielders
                  Ryan Crotty
                  Jack Goodhue
                  Anton Lienert-Brown
                  Sonny Bill Williams

                  Outside backs
                  Jordie Barrett
                  Rieko Ioane
                  Nehe Milner-Skudder
                  Waisake Naholo
                  Ben Smith

                  So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                  @bovidae

                  Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                  I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                  I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                  Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                    @bovidae

                    Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                    I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                    I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                    Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                    @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @bovidae

                    Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                    I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                    I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                    Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                    I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @bovidae

                      Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                      I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                      I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                      Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                      I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                      @nepia

                      But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        @nepia

                        But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                        @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        @nepia

                        But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

                        Um, so. 😉

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                          Big decision coming up on who is the backup Openside. Dalton Papali'i's chances of making the 32 must have gone up in the last 24 hours.

                          Interesting to see, as well, if certain experienced backs who have been disappointed in 2018 continue to get selected ahead of promising youngsters.

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                            Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

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                              Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

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                              @cgrant said in AB EOYT 2018:

                              Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

                              Every player with two legs and a pair of footy boots are a chance

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                                Is Abel Australia eligible?

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Is Abel Australia eligible?

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                                  @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                  Is Abel Australia eligible?

                                  He is. But if he got signed by NZ super team he’d be AB eligible too.

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                                    @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                    Is Abel Australia eligible?

                                    He is. But if he got signed by NZ super team he’d be AB eligible too.

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                                    @act-crusader He looks like he'd be worth a spot in the Australian squad.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @act-crusader He looks like he'd be worth a spot in the Australian squad.

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                                      @tim this stint with the Orcs has done his confidence a world of good. Regular playing time has given him an opportunity to play with a little more freedom and it’s paid off for him and AKL.

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        Refs shmefs. Won’t matter. We’ll cane the Paddies by 20.

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                                        @act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        Refs shmefs. Won’t matter. We’ll cane the Paddies by 20.

                                        That’s going down in my little green book. In the section, For Possible Future Retrieval.

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                                          Papali'i and Parkinson both look to have a bit of mongrel and animal energy / spark about them which will be invaluable for the EOYT and SR heading into 2019 for RWC campaign.

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