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AB EOYT 2018

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....

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    @act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:

    Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....

    Yeah that was my thinking.

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      Reading between the lines this will be the core 32 man squad and not the additionals for the Japan test.

      The #AllBlacks squad for the Vista 2018 Northern Tour will be named on Monday.
      
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        Reading between the lines this will be the core 32 man squad and not the additionals for the Japan test.

        The #AllBlacks squad for the Vista 2018 Northern Tour will be named on Monday.
        
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        @kiwimurph yeah I guess they'll await injuries etc in the NPC finals before confirming

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          All answered here:

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            Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

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            • M Machpants

              Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

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              @machpants said in AB EOYT 2018:

              Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

              18 players and a halfback

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                Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                Hookers
                Dane Coles
                Nathan Harris
                Codie Taylor

                Props
                Owen Franks
                Joe Moody
                Tim Perry
                Karl Tu'inukuafe
                Ofa Tuungafasi

                Locks
                Scott Barrett
                Brodie Retallick
                Samuel Whitelock

                Loose Forwards
                Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                Shannon Frizell
                Jackson Hemopo
                Kieran Read
                Ardie Savea
                Liam Squire
                Luke Whitelock

                Halfbacks
                TJ Perenara
                Aaron Smith
                Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                First five-eighths
                Beauden Barrett
                Damian McKenzie
                Richie Mo'unga

                Midfielders
                Ryan Crotty
                Jack Goodhue
                Anton Lienert-Brown
                Sonny Bill Williams

                Outside backs
                Jordie Barrett
                Rieko Ioane
                Nehe Milner-Skudder
                Waisake Naholo
                Ben Smith

                So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                • A akan004

                  @cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.

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                  @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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                    @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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                    @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

                    Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                      Hookers
                      Dane Coles
                      Nathan Harris
                      Codie Taylor

                      Props
                      Owen Franks
                      Joe Moody
                      Tim Perry
                      Karl Tu'inukuafe
                      Ofa Tuungafasi

                      Locks
                      Scott Barrett
                      Brodie Retallick
                      Samuel Whitelock

                      Loose Forwards
                      Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                      Shannon Frizell
                      Jackson Hemopo
                      Kieran Read
                      Ardie Savea
                      Liam Squire
                      Luke Whitelock

                      Halfbacks
                      TJ Perenara
                      Aaron Smith
                      Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                      First five-eighths
                      Beauden Barrett
                      Damian McKenzie
                      Richie Mo'unga

                      Midfielders
                      Ryan Crotty
                      Jack Goodhue
                      Anton Lienert-Brown
                      Sonny Bill Williams

                      Outside backs
                      Jordie Barrett
                      Rieko Ioane
                      Nehe Milner-Skudder
                      Waisake Naholo
                      Ben Smith

                      So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                      @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                      I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                        I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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                        @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                        I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

                        NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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                          @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                          I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

                          NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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                          @nzzp I think the real selectors are just generally a bit more conservative than the armchair selectors, when it comes to dropping the axe on players. Don't want to be calling up, discarding, recalling....etc.

                          So they give their players plenty of rope.

                          But if they're going to introduce new players into the mix before RWC, they're pretty close to the last chance saloon. And, I think NMS has been in both the France and Rugby Championship squads - and they've given him one game. Which doesn't seem like a huge vote of confidence.

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                            Even though NMS is lucky to be in the AB squad I wouldn't be selecting a replacement for him in the 32. That's what Hansen is going to do with the extra 18.5 players, bring them into camp for a closer look and give some an opportunity vs Japan.

                            The likes of NMS, Hemopo and Akira will have 2 bites at the cherry as they can play for the Maori in their later games if not on the AB tour.

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                              @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

                              @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

                              Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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                              @akan004 I think Strange was more dominant in first few games, while Parkinson has played well in last few (in comparing two)

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                                Parkinson looks to have the best potential of the two. With an addition of 3 or 4 kgs, he could look like BBBR and why not, play like BBBR !

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                                  Hookers
                                  Dane Coles
                                  Nathan Harris
                                  Codie Taylor

                                  Props
                                  Owen Franks
                                  Joe Moody
                                  Tim Perry
                                  Karl Tu'inukuafe
                                  Ofa Tuungafasi

                                  Locks
                                  Scott Barrett
                                  Brodie Retallick
                                  Samuel Whitelock

                                  Loose Forwards
                                  Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                                  Shannon Frizell
                                  Jackson Hemopo
                                  Kieran Read
                                  Ardie Savea
                                  Liam Squire
                                  Luke Whitelock

                                  Halfbacks
                                  TJ Perenara
                                  Aaron Smith
                                  Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                                  First five-eighths
                                  Beauden Barrett
                                  Damian McKenzie
                                  Richie Mo'unga

                                  Midfielders
                                  Ryan Crotty
                                  Jack Goodhue
                                  Anton Lienert-Brown
                                  Sonny Bill Williams

                                  Outside backs
                                  Jordie Barrett
                                  Rieko Ioane
                                  Nehe Milner-Skudder
                                  Waisake Naholo
                                  Ben Smith

                                  So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                                  @bovidae

                                  Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                  I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                  I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                  Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                                    @bovidae

                                    Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                    I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                    I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                    Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                                    @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                    @bovidae

                                    Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                    I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                    I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                    Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                                    I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                      @bovidae

                                      Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                      I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                      I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                      Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                                      I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                                      @nepia

                                      But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                                        @nepia

                                        But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                                        @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        @nepia

                                        But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

                                        Um, so. 😉

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                                          Big decision coming up on who is the backup Openside. Dalton Papali'i's chances of making the 32 must have gone up in the last 24 hours.

                                          Interesting to see, as well, if certain experienced backs who have been disappointed in 2018 continue to get selected ahead of promising youngsters.

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