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AB EOYT 2018

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    Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

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    • M Machpants

      Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

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      @machpants said in AB EOYT 2018:

      Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

      18 players and a halfback

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        Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

        Hookers
        Dane Coles
        Nathan Harris
        Codie Taylor

        Props
        Owen Franks
        Joe Moody
        Tim Perry
        Karl Tu'inukuafe
        Ofa Tuungafasi

        Locks
        Scott Barrett
        Brodie Retallick
        Samuel Whitelock

        Loose Forwards
        Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
        Shannon Frizell
        Jackson Hemopo
        Kieran Read
        Ardie Savea
        Liam Squire
        Luke Whitelock

        Halfbacks
        TJ Perenara
        Aaron Smith
        Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

        First five-eighths
        Beauden Barrett
        Damian McKenzie
        Richie Mo'unga

        Midfielders
        Ryan Crotty
        Jack Goodhue
        Anton Lienert-Brown
        Sonny Bill Williams

        Outside backs
        Jordie Barrett
        Rieko Ioane
        Nehe Milner-Skudder
        Waisake Naholo
        Ben Smith

        So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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          @cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.

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          @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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            @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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            @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

            @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

            Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

              Hookers
              Dane Coles
              Nathan Harris
              Codie Taylor

              Props
              Owen Franks
              Joe Moody
              Tim Perry
              Karl Tu'inukuafe
              Ofa Tuungafasi

              Locks
              Scott Barrett
              Brodie Retallick
              Samuel Whitelock

              Loose Forwards
              Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
              Shannon Frizell
              Jackson Hemopo
              Kieran Read
              Ardie Savea
              Liam Squire
              Luke Whitelock

              Halfbacks
              TJ Perenara
              Aaron Smith
              Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

              First five-eighths
              Beauden Barrett
              Damian McKenzie
              Richie Mo'unga

              Midfielders
              Ryan Crotty
              Jack Goodhue
              Anton Lienert-Brown
              Sonny Bill Williams

              Outside backs
              Jordie Barrett
              Rieko Ioane
              Nehe Milner-Skudder
              Waisake Naholo
              Ben Smith

              So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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              @bovidae That will be pretty close.

              I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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                @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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                @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

                NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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                  @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                  @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                  I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

                  NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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                  @nzzp I think the real selectors are just generally a bit more conservative than the armchair selectors, when it comes to dropping the axe on players. Don't want to be calling up, discarding, recalling....etc.

                  So they give their players plenty of rope.

                  But if they're going to introduce new players into the mix before RWC, they're pretty close to the last chance saloon. And, I think NMS has been in both the France and Rugby Championship squads - and they've given him one game. Which doesn't seem like a huge vote of confidence.

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                    Even though NMS is lucky to be in the AB squad I wouldn't be selecting a replacement for him in the 32. That's what Hansen is going to do with the extra 18.5 players, bring them into camp for a closer look and give some an opportunity vs Japan.

                    The likes of NMS, Hemopo and Akira will have 2 bites at the cherry as they can play for the Maori in their later games if not on the AB tour.

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                      @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

                      Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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                      @akan004 I think Strange was more dominant in first few games, while Parkinson has played well in last few (in comparing two)

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                        Parkinson looks to have the best potential of the two. With an addition of 3 or 4 kgs, he could look like BBBR and why not, play like BBBR !

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                          Hookers
                          Dane Coles
                          Nathan Harris
                          Codie Taylor

                          Props
                          Owen Franks
                          Joe Moody
                          Tim Perry
                          Karl Tu'inukuafe
                          Ofa Tuungafasi

                          Locks
                          Scott Barrett
                          Brodie Retallick
                          Samuel Whitelock

                          Loose Forwards
                          Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                          Shannon Frizell
                          Jackson Hemopo
                          Kieran Read
                          Ardie Savea
                          Liam Squire
                          Luke Whitelock

                          Halfbacks
                          TJ Perenara
                          Aaron Smith
                          Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                          First five-eighths
                          Beauden Barrett
                          Damian McKenzie
                          Richie Mo'unga

                          Midfielders
                          Ryan Crotty
                          Jack Goodhue
                          Anton Lienert-Brown
                          Sonny Bill Williams

                          Outside backs
                          Jordie Barrett
                          Rieko Ioane
                          Nehe Milner-Skudder
                          Waisake Naholo
                          Ben Smith

                          So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                          @bovidae

                          Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                          I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                          I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                          Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                            @bovidae

                            Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                            I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                            I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                            Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                            Nepia
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                            @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                            @bovidae

                            Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                            I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                            I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                            Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                            I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                              @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                              @bovidae

                              Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                              I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                              I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                              Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                              I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                              @nepia

                              But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                                @nepia

                                But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                                @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @nepia

                                But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

                                Um, so. 😉

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                                  Big decision coming up on who is the backup Openside. Dalton Papali'i's chances of making the 32 must have gone up in the last 24 hours.

                                  Interesting to see, as well, if certain experienced backs who have been disappointed in 2018 continue to get selected ahead of promising youngsters.

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                                    Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

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                                      Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

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                                      @cgrant said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                      Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

                                      Every player with two legs and a pair of footy boots are a chance

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                                        Is Abel Australia eligible?

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                                          Is Abel Australia eligible?

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                                          @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                          Is Abel Australia eligible?

                                          He is. But if he got signed by NZ super team he’d be AB eligible too.

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