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AB EOYT 2018

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @bovidae That will be pretty close.

    I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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    @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bovidae That will be pretty close.

    I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

    NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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      @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

      @bovidae That will be pretty close.

      I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

      NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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      @nzzp I think the real selectors are just generally a bit more conservative than the armchair selectors, when it comes to dropping the axe on players. Don't want to be calling up, discarding, recalling....etc.

      So they give their players plenty of rope.

      But if they're going to introduce new players into the mix before RWC, they're pretty close to the last chance saloon. And, I think NMS has been in both the France and Rugby Championship squads - and they've given him one game. Which doesn't seem like a huge vote of confidence.

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        Even though NMS is lucky to be in the AB squad I wouldn't be selecting a replacement for him in the 32. That's what Hansen is going to do with the extra 18.5 players, bring them into camp for a closer look and give some an opportunity vs Japan.

        The likes of NMS, Hemopo and Akira will have 2 bites at the cherry as they can play for the Maori in their later games if not on the AB tour.

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          @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

          @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

          Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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          @akan004 I think Strange was more dominant in first few games, while Parkinson has played well in last few (in comparing two)

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            Parkinson looks to have the best potential of the two. With an addition of 3 or 4 kgs, he could look like BBBR and why not, play like BBBR !

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

              Hookers
              Dane Coles
              Nathan Harris
              Codie Taylor

              Props
              Owen Franks
              Joe Moody
              Tim Perry
              Karl Tu'inukuafe
              Ofa Tuungafasi

              Locks
              Scott Barrett
              Brodie Retallick
              Samuel Whitelock

              Loose Forwards
              Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
              Shannon Frizell
              Jackson Hemopo
              Kieran Read
              Ardie Savea
              Liam Squire
              Luke Whitelock

              Halfbacks
              TJ Perenara
              Aaron Smith
              Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

              First five-eighths
              Beauden Barrett
              Damian McKenzie
              Richie Mo'unga

              Midfielders
              Ryan Crotty
              Jack Goodhue
              Anton Lienert-Brown
              Sonny Bill Williams

              Outside backs
              Jordie Barrett
              Rieko Ioane
              Nehe Milner-Skudder
              Waisake Naholo
              Ben Smith

              So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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              @bovidae

              Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

              I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

              I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

              Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                @bovidae

                Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                @bovidae

                Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                  @bovidae

                  Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                  I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                  I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                  Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                  I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                  @nepia

                  But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                    @nepia

                    But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                    @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @nepia

                    But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

                    Um, so. 😉

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                      Big decision coming up on who is the backup Openside. Dalton Papali'i's chances of making the 32 must have gone up in the last 24 hours.

                      Interesting to see, as well, if certain experienced backs who have been disappointed in 2018 continue to get selected ahead of promising youngsters.

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                        Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

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                          Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

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                          @cgrant said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

                          Every player with two legs and a pair of footy boots are a chance

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                            Is Abel Australia eligible?

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Is Abel Australia eligible?

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                              @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                              Is Abel Australia eligible?

                              He is. But if he got signed by NZ super team he’d be AB eligible too.

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                                @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                Is Abel Australia eligible?

                                He is. But if he got signed by NZ super team he’d be AB eligible too.

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                                @act-crusader He looks like he'd be worth a spot in the Australian squad.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @act-crusader He looks like he'd be worth a spot in the Australian squad.

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                                  @tim this stint with the Orcs has done his confidence a world of good. Regular playing time has given him an opportunity to play with a little more freedom and it’s paid off for him and AKL.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    Refs shmefs. Won’t matter. We’ll cane the Paddies by 20.

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                                    @act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                    Refs shmefs. Won’t matter. We’ll cane the Paddies by 20.

                                    That’s going down in my little green book. In the section, For Possible Future Retrieval.

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                                      Papali'i and Parkinson both look to have a bit of mongrel and animal energy / spark about them which will be invaluable for the EOYT and SR heading into 2019 for RWC campaign.

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        Also, Wayne Barnes is controlling the Ireland test.

                                        With those two referees, we're going to do really really well to win both. Garces is French, and just random. Wayne-O is generally good, but then has random brain farts. As long as the fart direction is towards Ireland and not us, we'll survive - otherwise it's all on for young and old.

                                        Going to be an epic couple of weeks, I can't wait. We are blessed with magnificent rugby tests each year, I cannot wait.

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                                        @nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        Also, Wayne Barnes is controlling the Ireland test.

                                        With those two referees, we're going to do really really well to win both. Garces is French, and just random. Wayne-O is generally good, but then has random brain farts. As long as the fart direction is towards Ireland and not us, we'll survive - otherwise it's all on for young and old.

                                        Going to be an epic couple of weeks, I can't wait. We are blessed with magnificent rugby tests each year, I cannot wait.

                                        Wayne Barnes brings Irish fans out in blisters. He’s reffed15 tests and they’ve won just 5 under him.

                                        Just sayin....

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                                          @nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                          Also, Wayne Barnes is controlling the Ireland test.

                                          With those two referees, we're going to do really really well to win both. Garces is French, and just random. Wayne-O is generally good, but then has random brain farts. As long as the fart direction is towards Ireland and not us, we'll survive - otherwise it's all on for young and old.

                                          Going to be an epic couple of weeks, I can't wait. We are blessed with magnificent rugby tests each year, I cannot wait.

                                          Wayne Barnes brings Irish fans out in blisters. He’s reffed15 tests and they’ve won just 5 under him.

                                          Just sayin....

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                                          @derm-mccrum said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                          @nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                          Also, Wayne Barnes is controlling the Ireland test.

                                          With those two referees, we're going to do really really well to win both. Garces is French, and just random. Wayne-O is generally good, but then has random brain farts. As long as the fart direction is towards Ireland and not us, we'll survive - otherwise it's all on for young and old.

                                          Going to be an epic couple of weeks, I can't wait. We are blessed with magnificent rugby tests each year, I cannot wait.

                                          Wayne Barnes brings Irish fans out in blisters. He’s reffed15 tests and they’ve won just 5 under him.

                                          Just sayin....

                                          Similar rate to the ABs with him then.
                                          Funny how some refs control more ‘upsets’ than others.

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